Qualcomm and TSMC ready to toss 8-core chips onto the table

3. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)

Qualcomm has done a great job messing up their chip numbering scheme.

4. Peeyushmalik96 (Posts: 75; Member since: 08 Jun 2013)

you're right...In my opinion the 2012 naming scheme of Qualcomm processors was much better...
Snapdragon S3, S4, S4 pro and all that

9. vincelongman (Posts: 5048; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

I think Qualcomm drop those names because they were similar to Samsung's naming scheme, e.g. S, S2, S3,...
Maybe Qualcomm should use AMD's/Nvidia's GPU naming scheme
e.g.
2013 - 200, 400, 600, 800
2014 - 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800
2015 - 2200, 2400, 2600, 2800

10. Beijendorf (Posts: 355; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)

Or the HTC naming scheme!

2013 - ONE
2014 - ONE
2015 - ONE

13. Sid91 (unregistered)

1-one plus one
2-one plus one plus one

14. luis.d (Posts: 354; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)

It's 808, sorry for the typo.

6. Beijendorf (Posts: 355; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)

Said people who had no idea how processors and processing speed works.

12. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

Go easy on him, he's excited, but mobile processors will be starting to match some currently available X86 processors in performance.

15. ahomad (Posts: 175; Member since: 15 May 2012)

Said someone who thinks he knows everything. He is indeed right, he didn't say these chips are more powerful the the current high end (2014 i7 extreme) chipset. I am sure he meant computers with average users (few years old, med to low range chipset) and these are indeed as/ if not more powerful.

16. Beijendorf (Posts: 355; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)

I never said I knew everything?

And I hope you realise even the i3 processors released in Q2 2012 are more than twice as fast as the Snapdragon 800 processors. This doesn't come as a surprise since the stationary processors aren't as heavily limited by power consumption and cooling issues as the mobile processors are.

That is the one and only argument required for someone to realise mobile processors will never be on par with stationary processors.

And if he was indeed talking about how the very old processors are slower than the brand new processors, well... That's quite a daft thing to say.

It's like saying
"Finally with all my training I can run faster than a car!"
"No you can't..."
"Well I am talking about cars manufactured before 1885."

19. DBounce (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Apr 2014)

I think the point is these new chips will mean that a lot of the types of task that desktop users regularly do will be possible from a smartphone or tablet.
Remember most users don't come close to really utilizing the full power of their desktops. Of course some games, video editing and 3d design programs can tax a system. But those users are not the norm.

20. ahomad (Posts: 175; Member since: 15 May 2012)

sorry for being a bit aggressive in my response but I don't like when you said he knows nothing. anyway, my wife got a laptop as a gift. It is fairly new (2013) but runs intel celeron and my Xperia Z1 with SD800 is way better than this device in performing all tasks such as browsing, opening mails, gaming and even photo and video editing. this is what I meant by few years old and low end laptop (and this what I think the majority around the world have, probably not you or me or anyone in this site but we are a very tiny group of people if you looked at the world population).

But I agree with you that the best smartphone chips won't come close to a good PC chipset because of several factors such as what you mentioned like power consumption and cooling system in addition to the size of the product (a smart watch won't come close to a sever not even in 1000 years)

25. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

S801 is not even near Atom or Baytrail silvermont socs

A7 E5420 To are

32. Desmortibus (Posts: 66; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)

Didn't I stated "FINALLY" ?... I am PERFECTLY aware of how processors work and of the difference between current PC processors and ARM systems on current mobile devices. Still, this kind of processing power already begins the blur the lines.... Within 4/5 years, I think it could be achieved.

8. vincelongman (Posts: 5048; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

The 810 has a quad core A57 and quad core A53, which means its using ARM's big.LITTLE to be more efficient
True octa core CPUs aren't good for phones/tablets as they use more much power and produce more heat (assuming all 8 cores are running)
Also most apps don't even use all four cores yet, the four other cores would be rested most the time any way

24. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Looks like you love or your a Cpu fan like me

22. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

They are right. But just because 8 core is marketing, doesn't mean it sells, especially in China where everyone counts cores. 64bit doesn't matter either, but you won't be able to sell a 32bit chip in 2015 since everyone expects 64bit.

28. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

It does matter the higher the band with and bigger the Cpu die is the better the actual overall resource performance

29. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

what?

21. ojdidit84 (Posts: 458; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)

A buddy of mine works for Qualcomm here in SD. He says that they don't even have any phones for testing the SD810 yet. He said that at this point, we wouldn't see any SD810 phones until Q1 '15.

23. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

And Samsung and Apple already using A15 Socs

Quallcom is way behind

They don't even have a A15 Cpu yet. Still relying on old A9 Cortex 2012 Soc

And everyone loves Snapdragon

Even their Scorpion Cpu was weak comparing to Eyxnos and Apples A4

26. ojdidit84 (Posts: 458; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)

That's all good and well but... What does any of this have to do with him asking about SD805 or SD810 for Q4 flagships?

And apparently they're not way behind. They do well with their own chipsets with ARM instructions. They've always only used their own designs just using ARM instructions. Yes, Scorpion was pretty darn bad but you'd be hard pressed to find anything that performs as well on the Android platform AND include everything else (ie. LTE radio) in the same package.

27. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

External LTE radio costs $12 that's why no one uses other better Cpu cause Snapdragon comes in all in one cheap