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PureView Phase 2, or how Nokia managed to surprise us with an 8MP camera module

0. phoneArena posted on 05 Sep 2012, 12:19

The 8.7MP PureView one has been built from the ground up with the thought to resolve the issue that plagues smartphone cameras the most, due to their smallish sensors - low-light performance. Nokia didn't achieve that by placing a huge sensor behind the Carl-Zeiss lens, like on the 808 PureView, that will capture more light, but rather went the other way around...

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posted on 05 Sep 2012, 12:59 1

20. maryaaadil (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)

I am thing of this rather that a note 2

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:01 1

22. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

Guess we all know which one the "leading competitor smartphone" is... guess no one buys the SGS3 for the camera anyway though.

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:09 2

23. Damien_666 (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)

Congrats on a job well done.
Your coverage of the camera improvements in 920 is the best so far !

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:22

25. hunted (Posts: 403; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)

what a clarity that is :)

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:51 2

26. antmiu2 (Posts: 384; Member since: 19 Jun 2011)

at 0:27http://i45.tinypic.com/idbyn4.png camera man inside a van.. cheated

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 15:20 1

34. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

Did it ever occur to you that there needed to be someone taking the images of the guy and girl riding bikes?

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:51

27. Suts_97 (Posts: 124; Member since: 05 May 2012)

I wonder if this camera can beat a 12 or 13 MP phone camera..

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 15:22 1

35. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

Yeah, need to check it out when it hits the stores. Guess we'll have some thorough reviews for that also, though.

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 17:45 2

37. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

megapixels dont mean anything about quality. That is simply the size of the image it can take. The biggest factor is hardware and software, not MPX.

If those images were not doctored, then they are in fact.. very impressive and it will most likely be the mainstream phone camera to beat.

Those night time pix with the chick by the road had a really cool effect with the cars blurring behind it.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 04:47

45. Suts_97 (Posts: 124; Member since: 05 May 2012)

Yes, that's true...I just hope that the photos are almost as impressive, if not as the Nokia 808 Pureview.

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 13:55 4

29. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4321; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

Agreed, Daniel did great. I just got goosebumps as i read and went through the photos! It is definitely an advancement in cameraphone tech.
And all those whinning below about what they saw, i don't care, the photos can't be fake. Nokia has made two exclusive innovations in camera tech, and i'm glad it is Nokia. All i'm waiting for, now, is the reviews.

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 14:51 1

31. lumialove (Posts: 75; Member since: 16 May 2012)

the F/2.0 aperture is the lowest found any smartphone. Think of aperture as how “open” a lens can get—the more open, the more light comes in. That’s crucial as light is what camera’s crave and is the key to getting a good image. You want to buy an expensive lens for your DSLR? Search for one with an F/1.4 aperture—basically the lower the number, the better. Reaching F/2.0 on a camera-phone is a pretty big deal, make no mistake about it. It will also greatly help to make your photos better as the shutter speed can go faster.

back-side illuminated sensors (BSI) —it’s what is found on the iPhone, Titan II and many Samsung phones. It puts the wires behind the sensor, allowing more light to be received and once again, making brighter photos. We’ve wanted Nokia to do this for a very long time and now they have.

The Lumia 900, Lumia 920 and 808 PureView

Sensor size is also crucial. Here, the bigger the better and the fact is, most smartphones have tiny sensors. Why do some “pro” DSLRs cost so much? It’s because they have a giant sensor (it’s also why they’re so big). The Lumia 920 sports a 1/1.4” sensor that beats many phones who roll with a smaller 1/2.5”. That brings us to megapixels…

Photographers hate megapixel discussions because it’s all consumers focus on, instead of all of the above. It’s often the least important aspect as those pixels won’t improve your photo much. It’s good for cropping, yes, but other than that?

Nokia said they could have added more than the 8MP to that 1/1.4” sensor, as some of their competitors have on their devices. But as we mentioned last night, jamming more megapixels on a sensor can have negative consequences, like reduce image quality. The more pixels on a sensor, the more light you need to illuminate them all. In turn, cameras with high megapixel count tend to have worse low-light performance. That’s right folks, putting 16MP or 32MP into a camera can be a bad thing, especially if it’s on a small sensor.

No, Nokia took the good route here—the one that photographers would have preferred: larger, BSI sensor with less megapixels so there is less noise in low light conditions.

Throw in their whole “Floating lens”, which is a mechanical form of image stabilization (aka better than software based) and we’re talking a whole new category of a camera phone. I'VE seen some of the images and so far, I really like what we see. Expect more in the future

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 17:18

36. Reverence (Posts: 224; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)

@Phone Arena............I wanted a good Camera Phone......so is the lumia 920 the best?
and will Lumia 920 get all features will Nokia 808 purview has?

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 22:41 1

41. vivzek (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)

The best camera that I ever saw on a PROPER smartphone.. I like it. :-)

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 02:59

43. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)

I am impressed by those pictures. If this is the difference we shall see in actual life performance, i might just sign up for that lumia.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 03:40

44. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

my next question is, does the phone has rich recording too?

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