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President Obama wins re-election, will preside over BlackBerry 10 era

0. phoneArena posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:50

Once one of the most famous proponents of BlackBerry, President Barack Obama has won a second term which means he will be presiding over the BlackBerry 10 era; RIM is expected to launch its new OS sometime in the first quarter...

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posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:53 11

1. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)

Well... replace your iPad with an android tablet/surface RT/pro and your phone with an android or windows phone 8. hahahaha...

posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:55 6

2. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Oh boy, this article was clearly comment bait.

It'll be interesting to see how smartphones evolve in the next four years.

(For the record, I called the election months ago with the statement that if Obama won, it would be because Romney sucks and not because Obama's actually a good president.)


posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:57 2

6. DaUpside (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Nov 2012)

LULZ seriously I didn't love romney but Obama was not a good president. Lets Revolt!! :)

posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:57

7. nobelset (Posts: 270; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)

Well, we''ve put all our faith in him , as he requested for another 4 years. If 8 years isn't enough for him, then there's something really wrong.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 12:56 1

40. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

I didn't put any faith in him. I have no faith in him. That said, it's not like I had much for Romney either. It's like that South Park election episode where the school mascot election was down to a douche or a turd sandwich.......either way, the winner is just not good.....

posted on 06 Nov 2012, 23:57

8. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

i dont think its goin to be "anarchy" lol

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:01 12

10. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

You're right... He's a great president! 4 more years! 4 more years!

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:23 6

11. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

No. He's a terrible president. Not more terrible than Bush, but terrible. Continuing wars, imprisoning Bradley Manning, pushing for "reforms" which are worse than the already s**tty status quo. There is not a single remarkable good thing he has done.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:44 1

16. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

We didn't have anyone good to choose from. Except Gary Johnson and nobody will vote for a libertarian.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:52

17. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I did, sucker. That is the problem... you all think people won't vote this way or that, and you are too afraid to do so yourself. Try it sometime...

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 05:07

29. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

Gary Johnson is awesome.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 03:42 4

28. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

You have a right to that opinion, I just can't agree. The man isn't perfect by any means, but 4 years to clean up 30 years worth of crap is all he gets??? How about we see how far this recovery goes, see where the country stands, then judge him based on all 8 years of his presidency. I realize a lot of people will never give him credit for the millions of jobs he saved, the millions of jobs he's help to create, nor the millions of lives he will save with "Obamacare". But he's accomplished more in 4 years than some of his predecessor could accomplish in 8. But I'm not trying to argue, I'm just really happy Obama is still president.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 05:21 3

30. chrisdistaz (Posts: 8; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)

Really? You are that uninformed??? Both Obama & Romney BOTH support indefinite detention of American Citizens through the NDAA sec 1031b without legal counsel or trial, Both support kill lists of American Citizens for connection of "terrorism" which can be anyone who disagrees with federal gov policy claiming a link to "terrorism", both are in support of some of the most basic violations of the natural rights of man.

How can you determine if someone is a "terrorist" if you haven't tried them in a court of law, how could you have a kill list and completely violate the rule of law by not arresting someone who has been accused and giving them a proper trial and just killing them instead.

The day has come where those Americans who TRULY believe in Liberty HAVE BECOME the enemy of the State because the State has become the enemy of Liberty.

Give me a break. You talk with such ignorance. This President and the President before were entire jokes to the founding principles located in the Declaration of Independence. You should read it some time... but, as the saying goes, MOST people don't want Liberty, they only want security and are willing to forgo their Liberty in place of security! Thomas Jefferson in a letter Dated Jan 1787 to James Madison said "I prefer dangerous Liberty to peaceful servitude". I AGREE!!!

Ben Franklin also noted that anyone who would give up essential Liberty for temporary security, deserves neither Liberty or security and will lose both.

Here's another quote from Patrick Henry: - - - - -
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.” - - - - - -

But people like you support an Obama, or a Romney... wow, how far away from the principles of Liberty this country has come. To say we are doomed is an understatement.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 05:39 2

31. chrisdistaz (Posts: 8; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)

Liberty is NEVER won with an election. It's something that lives in the hearts of the People of ANY location on this Earth or in this Universe.

Judge Learned Hand said:
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."

Again, this is WHY it DID NOT matter if Romney or Obama won. Neither of those candidates are even worthy of the Presidency. The most worthy possible candidate would have been Ron Paul.

John Adams wrote:
---The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If "Thou shalt not covet," and "Thou shalt not steal," were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society, before it can be civilized or made free. ---

I would say we are already there. Government HAS become the biggest vehicle of theft and abuse of power used by the ruling class. Government has become the BIGGEST violator of the rights of Property. Which, for all intensive purposes, means that the Government itself has become Anarchic...

Another 4 years of the decline of Liberty and Freedom. Elections have become like sporting events.

Daniel Webster Jun 1, 1837 wrote:
“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”

Again, how true and prophetic. To say i'm disappointed in this political system is an understatement. We have become the ruled, not the rulers, we have become the servants to government, not government serving the people, we have become the EXACT opposite to the original intent of the Declaration of Independence. What more is there to say???

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 05:47 3

32. chrisdistaz (Posts: 8; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


And what he has accomplished in 4 years is helping to BRING THE DEBT LEVEL OF THIS GOVERNMENT to a ridiculous unsustainable level where COLLAPSE of the financial system is INEVITABLE. Can't wait to see what you say when that happens!

Here's a hint for you .... DEBT IS NOT WEALTH!!!
Just because he creates more debt to give you an ILLUSION there is some sort of recovery, doesn't mean there's a recovery. THERE IS NO REAL RECOVERY! The system was built on debt and is in the process of collapsing... Creating debt is NOT creating wealth. They are OPPOSITES!

Responsibility is an Individual thing. That's why Liberty and Responsibility go hand in hand. You are judging this event like a sporting event. As you said, "Lets see what happens with all 8 years" ???? Really... you are def part of the problem. If the first 4 weren't enough to convince you there is a problem here... another 4 surely won't serve us any better...

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 12:34 1

39. items17070 (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)

MAN! you are so RIGHT! and just wait, the WORST is yet to come! and 'thick-headed' americans DO NOT know better! they only like the TUNE that FART Obama's stench is giving off! btw,, i noticed how many thumbs down you have, but you tell the truth and most people dont like to hear the truth! but they love Obama's stench!

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 17:07

54. mrmooresince1979 (Posts: 7; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)

Truly Obama isn't the problem and if you think he is then you're a ignorant fool.. It's the political game period.. Whether it's Romney, Obama, Joe blow whoever.. Regardless of the person in office the issues we're dealing with are gonna take more than 8yrs to fix. If each president believes that the last one before them wasn't doing a good job and changes the policies to what they feel is adequate and sufficient for the people it is only gonna do more harm than help. Think about this each president has their own agenda and some don't have the everyday person best interest at heart. The goverment is nothing more than a tool used to manipulate and dictate rules and regulations that they don't feel apply to them.. Stop blaming one person when it should be the system you question..

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 13:02 2

41. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

Seriously? We have lost net jobs under this administration, and the net gain/loss is all that matters. He may have created x amount of jobs, but when you lose y amount of jobs, and y > x, it sucks. And don't get me started on "Obamacare". In my family I've already seen the effects of Obamacare, and the results aren't good.

I just have to disagree with your entire statement man. That is your opinion, and you are more than welcom to it, but I do disagree.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 13:30 1

44. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

and praytell what are these effects? I really do wonder. I have seen the effects too. I have seen my wife get the ability to be covered under my insurance from having previously been on her mom's insurance BECAUSE the insurance company could not deny her coverage anymore, thanks to Obamacare. Im really curious to see how Obamacare has screwed you over, since its been a boon for us.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 15:26

52. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Yea, I am serious. I go on the facts as I see them, not the slants, spin or talking points. But I'm sure you believe what you've heard are facts as well. We may not agree on what's true or right for this country, but I respect your approach. You didn't call anyone stupid or insult anyone, so +1 to you for that alone. Even though we disagree, LOL.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 15:56

53. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

Insulting people accomplishes nothing but engendering hate and discouraging meaningful discussion. Meaningful discussion and respect for other people's opinions are two things that many people these days are greatly lacking.

I honestly use my dad for reliable sources on a lot of things, since he is retired and most of what he does is study politics as well as sports for our alma mater. My dad is probably identifies with the Libertarian party more than anything, as do I. He's also probably the most honest person I know.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 13:21 1

43. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

wrong, "Obamacare" has already proven to save lives for people that couldnt previously get insurance. He repealed DADT. He got us out of Iraq like he promised. The american auto industry is strong again when at the time he took oath, they were on the brink of collapse. Obviously he has done SOME good things. Many not as many as we had hoped, we can argue about why that is all day long, but you cant take away the things I mentioned above.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 13:48 1

49. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

My mother, father, and stepfather are both paying more for doctor's visits since Obamacare came into the picture. Treatment has gone up for them, and they have worked hard and served in the military.

I'm glad to hear it has helped some people, but as with most things, this is a double-edged sword. There are two sides to it, and one side can help some, while the other side hurts others.

As for the auto industry, I'll have to check some figures, but Ford seems to be doing well, and THEY DID NOT TAKE A DIME OF GOV'T MONEY! As for GM, they are still partially owned by the Feds. Last time I checked, gov't owned business aren't supposed to exist under our form of gov't.

Businesses must be allowed to stand or fall on their own practices. When a company becomes "Too big to fail", we have a serious problem. That said, the "too big to fail" problems when the housing bubble crashed were largely due to Congress and some seriously bad ideas that permeated both democrat and republican.

I'm done with this. Too much politics in the last 24 hours. I need a bottle of (insert alcohol here) and some comedies to take my mind off of this mess for a night.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 20:58

55. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

See, that's what I mean. The misinformation that people are putting just because they don't like the president is simply astounding. Do you realize that it doesn't go into effect until 2014? How could they possibly be paying more for a law that will not go into effect for another year and some months? Their prices are rising because the insurance companies are plain old greedy.

And GM paid back the loan. The Feds are not in the business of making cars. I agree that the housing bubble is a 50/50 split because all the warning signs were ignored by people on both sides. But everything else is totally off.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:28 1

13. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Well, for years now Americans have been choosing who they believe is the "lesser of two evils". Why can't we actually choose someone who we genuinely believe is good for us? Why do we believe that our choice should only be between two people from two parties?

It would be like saying you only have a choice between a Coca-Cola or a Pepsi when you would really much rather have a Dr. Pepper.

So long as we continue the two-party system, the longer we are going to just be choosing the lesser of two evils.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:35 2

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

The trouble is that there are differing opinions on what is good for us. There are those who think somehow that Obama is anything other than a bad president, and those who somehow think that Romney would be better. Then there are those with logic who realize that if anybody in power will do some good, it's a Libertarian candidate. The trouble there is that Libertarians piss off Democrats in an economic sense and piss off Republicans in a social sense. They make almost nobody happy even though they're the closest to being a good thing for the country that we have.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:42 4

15. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Why thank you. I voted Johnson and I'm proud. Obama was the worst president in history... period. His reelection shows us just how STUPID the american public is..

And for all the republicans out there. You were up against a president with a worse record than Carter. By all judgements, Obama is the worst president in history. .without exception.. yet he was still electable and even won... Instead of blaming everyone else (they are stupid after all), you should look at why your platform cant even win against a moron, with quite literally american history's worst record.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:56 2

20. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1639; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Well, remixfa, it's not that black and white. While I believe the Federal Reserve is largely to be credited to the inflated economy numbers (DJI being at around 13,000 and the artificial increase in investment), it makes it look like it was Obama's doing. Hurricane Sandy also affected how people saw Obama as a leader. Then there was the poor debate performance by Romney in the second and third debates. So, I wouldn't say that was really the GOP as a whole's fault but more so it was poor choice of a candidate and just events that happened that people placed misdirected praise towards.

However, I will say that I too voted for Gary Johnson. I originally wanted to see Ron Paul win the nomination, but I just couldn't let myself vote between two people who really are the same person.

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 00:57 6

21. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

I think its quite easy to overlook the fact that bush was indeed the worst president in american history and given the fact that he pretty much "handed" obama a pile of mess to clean up after him, It is very easy to say "obama was no good and didnt do anything for us" but much harder to accept the truth that it really isnt his fault for "inheriting" such a problem as great as what bush left him.......Maybe somethings he has done was his fault no doubt but to put "all" the blame on just a man under that much pressure is just plain wrong bro......and I think we all know that but somehow refuse to admit it

posted on 07 Nov 2012, 01:08

22. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Weak argument... Bush left a pile of crap, yup. Obama has done more to contribute to the pile of crap than to clean it up. He's gonna add more to it over then next four years. Romney would have added to it too.

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