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Platform wars: Symbian losses turned mostly into Android gains, bada outgrows Windows Phone again

0. phoneArena posted on 16 May 2012, 07:51

Over the first three months of 2012 some remarkable events happened - Symbian plunged in market share, and while at the same time last year Nokia’s platform…

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posted on 16 May 2012, 09:56 7

31. FoneAddict (Posts: 259; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)

Totally agree. I feel sorry for Nokia (excluding Stephen EFlop!) as it seems they were duped into joining Microsoft. Time is running out for them, they really need to look at other platform options before it's too late and Microsoft buys Nokia out and that will be the end of Nokia.

Come on Nokia grow some balls and ditch Microsoft!

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:57 1

32. JSern (Posts: 282; Member since: 22 May 2011)

You're the greatest fail.

The graph only shows 2012 Q1 results, and narrow minded people like you likes to criticize about that case, kids these days.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:02 6

17. refreak (Posts: 29; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)

i knw i m getting a thousand dislikes on dis comment..
But still..
All the nokia haters..

"Wait and watch, my friend,
Just wait and watch".

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:11 6

19. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I won't dislike. I don't like to see any company die, unless they've earned it. Nokia seems to give a s**t about phone design again, so it would suck if they went under now.

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:37 1

46. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)

Yes. About phone design. Ecosystem.

... but they left out the only thing that matters: Symbian users.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:03 7

18. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

My guess for Q2:

Android - 87-93m
iOS - 25-28m
Symbian - 9-12m
BlackBerry - 7-9m
Windows Phone - 3-4m
Bada - 2-3m

posted on 16 May 2012, 10:09 5

34. Victor.H (Posts: 785; Member since: 27 May 2011)

If I was guessing, I'd bet on the same numbers.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:39 2

37. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

I also agree, with all but Bada.
Bada 3-4m
I doubt they will sell less next quarter and even expect that they´ll grow a bit. They have been steadily gaining numbers since last year.
My guess based on this:
Guess what´s the third phone most sold in Amazon Germany?
There are still loads of people that when they go for their first "cheap" smartphone they´ll go Bada (many of them will change to Android after that)

posted on 16 May 2012, 14:14 1

41. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Well, i thought it should decline a bit because of no new releases planned in Q2, and zero marketing from Samsung.
But it would be cool(and ironic, compared to WP) if your estimate turns out right.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:12

20. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

PA, can you please give us the stats from when the Lumia 900 was launched, because these stats are from January to March i think. there is no way that the platform could be losing market share with the buzz around the lumia sales, in fact i saw another report claiming that windows phone had surpassed RIM in the USA. People, use your brains, Windows phone can only go higher, they were at their lowest before Nokia got on board, they will never go lower than that again because there are more phones being made,
more phones being bought and more adverts being made. They were low at that time because there were very few phones that had their os. Now, they are surely selling more phones than they ever have, and you believe that their market share is declining?

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:23 6

24. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

You should use your brain..their market share is going down steeply because Symbian is where they had their foothold.
In q2 they will sell a bit more Lumias, but overall WP share will probably go down nevertheless because of disastrous WP sales of other brands, and because of worldwide smartphone market sale increase.

Lumias are not doing good at all, if you compare them with iphones or galaxies..heck even LG and Sony sold several times more androids than Nokia sold their lumias.
And when you consider that their hardware and software CAN'T BE IMPROVED until WP8 arrives, the prospects are pretty horrible in the meantime.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:15 6

22. mss1988 (Posts: 36; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

My prediction:

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:27 5

26. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Great job

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:17 3

23. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

I hope among those Android numbers there's an increase in Ice Cream Sandwich.
As far Windows Phone, we all know carriers and manufacturers want Windows Phone 8 LTE. So don't hope for any big numbers this year.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:26 2

25. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

If you want the truth about the market share at this time in the USA, Australia, Germany, go to Kantar worldpanel, they have just published the actual figures.

posted on 16 May 2012, 09:45 5

28. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Remember - this doesn't yet factor the SGS3 future sales. Android is going to STOMP iOS! :)

posted on 16 May 2012, 11:26 1

36. GJanee (Posts: 214; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)

geez, so much nonsense and bulls**t in the comment section... i don't even want to react to them. haters gonna hate.

posted on 16 May 2012, 14:32 3

42. CivicSi89 (Posts: 349; Member since: 23 Jul 2011)

What the frak is Bada?

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:06 3

43. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

Nokia should have went with Bada instead of Windows Phone.

posted on 18 May 2012, 09:33 1

52. RobotMan (Posts: 145; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

+1 Best comment of the day.

posted on 16 May 2012, 18:30 1

48. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Peter from Sweden was right partly. Bada may not be all that, but its more popular than WP7 which Microsoft has spent more than $2bln in advertising for it.

posted on 16 May 2012, 21:26

49. lumialove (Posts: 75; Member since: 16 May 2012)

oh yeah! People seem to be so much ignorant about the fact that lumia 900 is making waves in US of A and is constantly in the top spot for 3rd week in people's reviews in various technology sites like phonedog.com and according to siri lumia 900 is the best smartphone ever.

posted on 17 May 2012, 07:46 2

51. ThreeFourSeven (Posts: 34; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)

If Windows Phone was selling great. Microsoft would release the numbers already cause you know they like to brag about sales.

posted on 22 May 2012, 09:02

54. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)

This is not exactly "news" but in retrospect should clarify current situations a bit about Nokia's current state of affairs.


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