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The Pixel 3 camera may not do 4K 60fps video, but it can switch frame rates for you... while you record

Tired of choosing between 30fps or 60fps video recording? The Pixel 3 and 3 XL camera will do that for you... automatically... even mid-recording. What it can't do, however, is 4K 60fps recording.
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splus

Posts: 128; Member since: Nov 26, 2011

Why on Earth would I need it to change the fps in the middle of the video?? Say I want to edit the video later, this would just cause problems. And no 4K 60 fps? Has Google gone crazy or what? It looks like the whole Pixel 3 (especially XL) has been developed by their AI. Explains everything...

bucknassty

Posts: 1154; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

all this AI stuff... besides the pixel core... it's it a basis of the SD 845... this AI re-branding just confuses the normal consumer

worldpeace

Posts: 2969; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Pixel core is a real thing.https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/google/pixel_visual_core And variable frame rate (VFR) isn't even a new thing, AI did the framerate switching to optimize quality and size, it automatically switch to higher frame rate when detecting fast moving object, and lower frame rate when filming static or almost static object. Not all video editor support this, but it's easy to convert VFR to CFR, it will bloat the size since it will duplicate some frame to meet the highest frame rate in that video, but you can convert it to VFR again in the end product.

bucknassty

Posts: 1154; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

i know the pixel core is real... thats why i said besides the pixel core... I'm talking about the V40 AI and the note 9 AI... basically is the AI stuff in the 845 right? so no one is really implementing it themselves, it's built in to the 845

Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

Hardly anyone is recording in 4k 60 fps. It's a waste of storage. No content creators are using 4k 60 fps. At least you can view and edit HDR content on a Pixel 3. The iPhone XR ($750) can't even view HDR video, or Full HD video. The Pixel 3 ($799) can view HDR, or Full HD+ content. Which is way more useful than recording 4k 60 fps video. I would pay $50 more to get the Pixel 3 instead of the iPhone XR any day of the week.

rsiders

Posts: 1727; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

Have you ever been on YouTube and saw the 4k60 option?

Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

I certainly have. But there is next to no one doing 4k 60fps. There is a lot of full HD at 60 fps. There is some 4k at 30 fps. But next to nothing at 4k 60 fps on YouTube. Maybe you should look again. I certainly have. Besides you can't view 4k on iphones or smartphones, except for Sony's 4k smartphones. The amount of storage space 4k 60 fps takes up a lot. Still the XR is not worth the asking price.

rsiders

Posts: 1727; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

And you would be wrong. I've seen plenty of 4k60fps videos on YouTube since the iPhone 8 debuted it last year. And you're probably not a video person or you'd realize the huge benefit of having 4k60fps: 4k slow motion. And some of the videos you watched on 4k probably used 4k60 for slow motion as many videographers do. I agree with you on the XR though.

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I suspect Google chose not to support 4K 60fps because of their unlimited uncompressed photo/video backup They've probably wait until AV1+Opus to support 4K 60fps (hopefully in the Pixel 4)

Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

If you are saying right now that you would prefer 4k 60fps over a better smartphone display. Then you are crazy. Because only the mental cases like splus and rsiders think that 4k 60 fps is needed more than a superior display. You get way more usage out of the display, and bang for buck, than trying to record 4k video, period. The Pixel 3 has an OLED Full HD+ HDR display. The iPhone XR has a crappy low resolution HD+ LCD display with no HDR support. Only an iDiot would choose the iPhone XR over a Pixel 3.

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

30fps allows more light than 60fps So this feature is perfect for if the video starts outside in bright light, then goes into a lowly light area That being said the omission of 4K 60fps is dumb

Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

If the omission of 4k 60 fps is dumb for the Pixel 3. Then the omission of a full HD+ OLED display and HDR support is just ridiculous on the iPhone XR.

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Agreed, very disappointed with Apple recently -Not porting SmartHDR to older iPhones -Still using small batteries in iPhones -No fast charging in box -No features to reduce battery degradation -Not including the dongle with this years iPhones -Removing the dongle from older iPhones

matistight

Posts: 855; Member since: May 13, 2009

Right? I have a glitch happen on my Samsung S8 Plus and S9 Plus when recording 1080p60fps where if I didn't wait after turning on the phone, my first clip would capture 30fps and then after that it would start capturing 60fps. Very annoying.

AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Not related but they're also running that SD845 below spec. Maybe something to do with their visual core not sure but there is a bit of weirdness going on with the new Pixels.

nodes

Posts: 1106; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

Google always underclock snapdragon on their Pixels. they are never benchmark champs, but when it comes to smoothness, nothing beats Pixels.

AmashAziz

Posts: 2860; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Oneplus does. And the new iPhones also do beat the Pixels this year mainly due to iOS 12.

nodes

Posts: 1106; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

OnePlus is faster but not smoother. iPhone of course is the smoothest of them all. i meant Pixels are the smoothest Android phone.

AmashAziz

Posts: 2860; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

No, Oneplus 6 is smoother and faster than pixels. Many people on internet including big name youtubers have claimed this and I have seen this myself in comparisons. You can watch MKBHD's video titled something like "why I don't use the pixel anymore" and you will get a better idea of what I am saying. You can also ask someone who owns both and if he has tested them side by side there's a high chance he will tell you the same thing.

nodes

Posts: 1106; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

that is because of some bugs in some versions. i've used both, OnePlus is indeed faster, but stutters more.

AmashAziz

Posts: 2860; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

It isn't about why the pixels aren't smooth. We don't care about that. What we care about is that it isn't smooth. Stop trying to defend pixels and accept that they aren't as smooth as Oneplus. Thousands of people on twitter and Youtube have said the same thing and here you are trying to do your best to defend the.

rsiders

Posts: 1727; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

"The hardware is not really up to the task..." How? No excuse for Google to omit this feature. I almost paid over $950 for the 64gb Pixel 3 but instead chose to stick with LG and get the V30 and I gotta say I'm glad I made that decision. I couldn't justify spending that much for a phone that doesn't have a headphone jack, FHD+ screen, and only one sensor although while great doesn't offer any flexibility. I just get so much more with the V30 and I don't care about OS updates as Oreo is just perfect for me. Also I got all the manual controls I could ever need without relying on AI and machine learning to make decisions for me.

Alex_12

Posts: 34; Member since: May 30, 2018

So in other words you are happy to see up to date specs, but not happy to have the best software, AI and camera experience (eventhough it has only one back camera). Did I miss anything?

rsiders

Posts: 1727; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

Yeah you missed the part about the flexibility and paying more for lesser specced phone besides the SD845. Outside of that and software the Pixel 3 offers nothing that's better than what the V30 already has. Some people like the camera doing all the work for them. I like to engage in my photography be it my mirrorless camera or phone. I use Google camera when I don't have the time to change settings.

matistight

Posts: 855; Member since: May 13, 2009

Also Apple is going on their 2nd year of 4k60fps, why can't Qualcomm keep up? Or Samsung for that matter???

vincelongman

Posts: 5552; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The 845 and 9810 support 4K 60fps All of the 2018 flagships support it except for the Pixel 3