PhoneArena Awards 2012: Best Innovation

We have to admit it, folks, we aren't that easy to impress. We are a well-trained team of geeks that has laid hands on much more phones than an average Joe can even name. Simply put, we've all been there and we've all done that, as far as phones are concerned. Every once in a while, however, a new product or technology gets announced - something that really make us go "wow". And today, we'll talk about several such solutions: this year's PhoneArena awards begin with the Best Innovation category...
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64. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

yes awesome features no doubt but not innovation, the note 2 is excellent but its just evolution of the first note. no innovation there. 808 well it deserves the win easily, dont see how anyone can argue against it so i agree with you on that

84. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

The note 2 is evolution, and the camera tech in the Nokia phone isnt? Thats evolution too. Screens with higher screen res, evolution. Better processors, evolution. Improved camera tech, evolution.

88. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

no the innovation is the loseless zoom and oversampling, they made a way to do without an optical zoom without lose of detail and quality. this is a big leap forward. innovation the note 2 offers slight improvements with some new (new to that phone) features. nothing innovative just evolution i dont get why you cant accept this, lets face it if this was samsung pureview most of these comments would be just praise

98. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Well....for me, if it was a Samsung Pureview I still wouldnt accept it as #1. I am a Motorola fan...dont really like Samsung phones...and if it was Motorola Pureview I still wouldnt have accepted it as #1. We just have different opinions of whats more innovative. Projector in a phone is just more innovative than improved camera technology to me.

174. Bilpocalypse

Posts: 301; Member since: Oct 13, 2012

They're talking about pureview as a whole. Not one, but two phone cameras with different innovations. First is the 808 with lossless digital zoom and and oversampling. Secont is the 920 with OIS which has absolutely never been done with a phone before. Besides... jumping from 5mp to 8mp is a natural evolution. Jumping from 8mp (the standard for phones this year) to 41mp is not a natural evolution. That is a huge jump.

65. redmd

Posts: 1899; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

innovation is creating something never before seen. but people in this forum think of it only in hardware perspective.

67. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

no people in here think it must be android dominated, everything android has to win.....sick of it

66. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

nokia 808 deserves it, it basically done away with the need for a optical zoom (to an extent) with its loseless zoom, this saved battery as an optical zoom would drain the battery plus bulk. the nioless photo's look amazing everyone crying about the note 2, seriously get a grip. its a great device but not innovative, its evolution from the note 1. theres a differance between been innovative and just been a great device. just because its a great device dont mean its innovative. the HTC driod DNA should get a mention for setting the standard for future phone screens (said it before)

69. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

what should have been up there? The Nexus4 - the first premium build monster phone for less than $400 unlocked at launch. That is a paradigm changer.

80. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

its not innovative though...just because its a bargain doesnt make it innovation do you think the n4 is more innovative then the 808?

93. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

In a way, it is an innovation. It's an innovation to push phones to a lower price point. Shows that affordable phones are possible. Seeing a Galaxy S3 having a $100 price drop is called a bargain, the S4 is something else, it's trying to set the bar... For that purpose, it's an innovation.

101. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

thats not innovation thats more a sales plan, im sorry but the n4 isnt innovation. its a good phone no ones saying otherwise but innovation is pushing the boudaries of tech, incorperating otherwise seperate tech (i.e projector+phone).

333. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

THANK YOU!!!! Thats all you had to say instead of sounding like a lil spoiled kid mad she didnt get her snack... Was that so hard?

335. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

mate you sounded just as bad as me, and lets not get into that crap as i cba when the other android lot jump in to defend you

337. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

WOW.... That had nothing to do with Android users defending Android users. I purposely made that post very vague...... just to see something, and you took the bait. Like a stark raving fanboy. That was folks defending ignorance, arrogance, immaturity. WOW....I havent came across someone like you in a long time on here. Folks like you are part of the reason I dont post here that much anymore. You speak about Android users not calling other Android fanboys out...what about fanboys like you? Are you a Nokia fanboy, a Lumia 920 fanboy? A WP fanboy? MS fanboy? Whatever the are not rubbing ppl the wrong way for nothing. Look in the mirror, worry about fixing whats wrong with you first before worrying about trying to fix others.

338. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

lol...and the thumbs down to my posts I just made again proves my point. I await some asinine remark from you to my trying to come at you like an adult.

339. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

thumbs down means nothing, and im bored of you repeating and getting cheered on by the android fanboys. you will feel like your right as you have numbers on your side but that will shift.

340. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

And right on Dude...I'm seriously tired of this. Seriously.....just read what I posted today. Seriously... Its not about right or wrong. Its about looking at your self, really looking at your self and asking....what can ...I So I am about to do the mature thing...and let you have the last word....and let you feel like you are right. Thats the only way....looking at your self. I promis you...when you respond to this with something else....that will be the last response. I'm tired of fighting a losing battle. I cant worry about you and how you are, act, etc. All I can do is worry about me. Heres to hoping to growth as a person in the future...mentally, spiritually.

118. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Aren't there large Chinese-market "monster phones" for around $150-300? Not mainstream, but meets the criteria you put forth.

73. gazmatic

Posts: 807; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

There is nothing innovative neither about the nexus 4 nor droid dna. Xiaomi mi2 and oppo find5 had those specs and prices before. Note2 is an improved note. 808 deserves it not only because of camera but also because of audio. Nokia high end audio recording is top notch. The galaxy beam deserves to be there because it is better than the huge ass projector we use at work. Again most of samsung touchwiz software are made possible because of android. They are just fancy names for existing stuff like isight camera in apple. Android deserves to be there too because of its versatility. I would also mention hybrid laptops. They are quite nice

104. phil2n

Posts: 519; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

How about the first phone with NFC enabled. Nokia 6131

110. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Great picks, PA, can't think of anything to critique

125. samystic

Posts: 241; Member since: Mar 25, 2012

Apple has done the biggest innovation of the century - patenting flip page, wireless charging and wait round cornered rectangle samystic

131. samystic

Posts: 241; Member since: Mar 25, 2012

BTW PhoneArena, as far as i remember even if it failed miserably, projector on Beam is evolution and NOT innovation samystic

140. Asvad

Posts: 5; Member since: Nov 25, 2011

Where is Lumia 920 ?????

295. lolol

Posts: 64; Member since: Nov 14, 2012

Well, Pureview at the 1st place stands for Both Nokia 808 PureView and Nokia Lumia 920, The 2 most awesome and the best camera phones :)

143. eddo85

Posts: 11; Member since: Dec 03, 2012

what about airplay or miracast? there is so much potential behind it... wonderful, cablefree future

146. lumialove

Posts: 75; Member since: May 16, 2012

Clearly Nokia pureview technology wins ..anyday anytime.... :)

151. Thephonegeek

Posts: 118; Member since: Nov 22, 2012

Asus padfone 2 deserved to be on that list.

163. biagnosis

Posts: 106; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

hahaha.. I'm an owner of Nokia 808 PureView since it's day of release (June 2012) and I am very proud. Close to the top spot should be Samsung Galaxy Note 2 because of the S-Pen but I think this was an innovation last year with the 1st Galaxy Note that's why it did not make it. been a loyal Nokia supporter and my last 2 phones were Nokia N82 and Nokia N8 respectively but too bad I'm planning to ditch my Nokia 808 PureView for a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I already pre-ordered on my carrier here in the Philippines and I'll be getting the new Galaxy Note 2 within this week. It will be my 1st time to own an android device saw the YouTube demo's of this monster phablet and holy **** I was easily sold. too many things to do, to many things to discover than just shoot photos. I ain't really a professional photographer in the 1st place. I think if Nokia focused on Symbian and not the very gay WP8 (just like Elop), there are really lots of things that can be done on a Symbian device. It's the OS that really counts now for me.

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