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Petition to get Verizon to dump contracts and subsidies has 75,000 signatures

0. phoneArena posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:04

A number of Verizon customers are doing what Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam said they should do if they want the carrier to drop contracts and subsidized prices-let him know; to that end, 75,000 Verizon subscribers have signed a petition requesting that the carrier put an end to two-year pacts and follow T-Mobile, which has started its new contracts-free plans...

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posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:09 8

1. james1 (Posts: 97; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

This might make a lot of Verizon customers switch carriers if Verizon new plan doesn't change.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 23:59 4

35. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

I hope so they need lose about 10mill or so to realize...eventually the bigger they the harder they fall cant for the day the hit rock bottom

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 00:13

40. bluescreen (Posts: 154; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)

i still cant figure out how doing this is going to save the consumer any money aside from the fact that u can leave at any time u want to....if i go from verizon to like say tmobile how is my cell gonna work on tmobile?

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 02:26 1

51. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

The money savings will be noticeable in the pricing difference of the plans. The idea of no longer being locked into a 2 year agreement sounds really good. Of course you have to pay the phone off first but that will be the one limiting factor as oppose to a specific amount of time that has to pass.

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 04:30 1

54. bluescreen (Posts: 154; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)

so if u have no plans of leaving verizon anytime soon i can still get a 500 dollar smart phone for 200? thats all i really care about for now as i dont see going to another carrier in the near future

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 03:02 2

43. Rockbottom97 (Posts: 26; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)

Yes and no. Verizon Wireless is the only profitable arm of Vodafone right now with talks of Verizon Wireless buying themselves out or Verizon Wireless and ATT buying Vodofone.

They might be the largest carrier but they also have the largest network. So until ATT/Sprint/TMo can match them on a quality level (ATT with HD Voice for example).

But, Verizon Wireless as VoLTE waiting in the wings either this fall/winter or next year.

I would love to see contracts fall I just don't think its reasonable. A rep that works for the indirect channel for ATT told me to walk through Best Buy and see how many phones are marked Free compared to the ones with a price tag. He was right, there are more FREE phones than ones you pay for. Consumers expect there Wireless carrier to pay for there device, the plan is secondary.

posted on 20 Apr 2013, 02:42

56. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

The FAQs page states that the Device Installment Program allows consumers to purchase a new tablet or the Samsung Galaxy Camera.


Consumers want the Device Installment Program to apply to all devices.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 15:41 2

49. jcarrigan (unregistered)

well the problem is if they dont change the prices even alittle to be more competetitve with the other carriers because everyone has to pay an additional fee every month for the phone they bought. I know that i am hesitant to renew my 3 lines with verizon and im thinking of just sacrificing my 4g lte speed and consistant signal for sprints affordability and unlimited data.

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 02:18

50. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I know I would if I wasn't under contract and in the market for a new phone.

posted on 20 Apr 2013, 02:53

57. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

The sad part is they won't make any major changes until they suffer a financial setback that they can contribute to what they aren't doing that other carriers are doing.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:18 2

2. stealthd (unregistered)

Signing a petition is easy. I highly doubt that many people would actually take the effort to switch.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 14:51 2

47. Droiddoes (unregistered)

I wonder how many iof them actually understand what a subsidy is, because I really do not think they do. I think they are like 90% of the wireless customer base who just b*tch piss and moan about contracts and do not undersatnd WHY they are signing the contract. People are idiots.

posted on 20 Apr 2013, 03:03

58. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

If I didn't have 4 out of 5 of my lines under contract, I'd be gone already. By the end of this year I will have 3 of those 4 phones beyond their 24 months. VZW made the decision for me to stop signing two year contracts when they said I would loose my unlimited data with a new two year agreement.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:20 21

3. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

And then Verizon looked at this and said "Great idea, we will get rid of subsidies so you can pay the full price of the phone up front. But we wont lower the price of our plans....oh yeah, the phone will only have cellular bands that work on our network. Enjoy ^_^ "

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:38 11

9. Penny (Posts: 1672; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)

^This. I don't get why people are not getting it. 75,000 of my fellow Verizon users are about to screw us all.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 20:01 2

20. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

But Verizon is a brand, and expensive aswell as know for prestige users, just like Vodafone here in UK is expensive, but you get better coverage and 3G speeds are better than o2 Tmobile Orange and Virgin, 3 is also good for data. Then comes 2nd Orangeā„¢

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 23:43 4

34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

They must have over-dosed on stupid pills.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:40 8

10. 14545 (Posts: 1676; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

Exactly. This is my problem with this whole ending subsidies BS. I wouldn't have an issue if I could jump to ATT/Tmo/whoever with the phone that I paid for outright. I also wouldn't have an issue if they lowered the price of the plans for not making them subsidized the phone. But noooooo, VZW won't do either. They will charge full price for the phone, and the plan, and charge me a "finance" charge for possible payments. Where Tmo gives you an "interest" free loan and service discount for buying their phones off contract. VZW just asks you to bend over and let them see how far they can get that root up you @!!.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:54 6

17. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

Wow!, someone else who see through Verizon tricks..can't believe they have the audacity to charge finance fee to buy their phone and won't lower their plans...smh
This is a very greed company!.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 00:05 3

36. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

Ppl are morons at least with tmobile phones you can resell vzw most phones you cant...they is how dump ppl are they rather pay a full price for the phone rather pay $200 foe the phone and if they want to they can at any time termation fee 350 total price 550...hmm full retail price plus interest 550-600...if your not happy than switch its the same as paying full price but screw the ones that want the two yr and lower price on phone. ...vzw always will screw theresl customer I know first I used to work for them

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:21

4. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 234; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)

I've already signed it :) No contracts will make reps work harder to keep their existing customers happy which is another win for us. Its easier to tell someone to piss off when you know you have them for another year etc on their term when something goes wrong.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 00:07 1

37. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

No sorry we work harder we could care less what type of changes they do...we still get paid. ..it will be a higher pay out for now to make ppl pay full price than slow reduce it...in the end we will make want we want..we got over 100mill customer do you think we will harder ppl coming wantong vzw we dont have to sell shhhhhttt

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 03:05

44. Rockbottom97 (Posts: 26; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)

Interestingly, a known fact is reps do not get credit for customers that buy full retail phones. I wonder if this that same rule would apply to them since it is up to reps to actually run the check.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:23 6

5. BadAssAbe (Posts: 465; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)

They should lower plan rates if there phone is fully paid off.
ATT and Verizon are the worst but still not as bad as the cable companys

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:24 12

6. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

Being slightly better then the cable companies is like being the skinniest kid at fat camp.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:28 5

7. TheMan (Posts: 493; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)

I'm still not convinced that this is a win for customers. For one thing, the VZW CEO sounds too eager to switch. The economics in subsidizing iPhone purchases has already been shown to not favor carriers, so shifting the burden to consumers whether by not subsidizing purchases or by delaying upgrade eligibility is a win for them.

Second, when I run the numbers for my TMO customers, too often the monthly payout is the same whether no-contract or not, thanks to the equipment installment plan. Plus, until 24 months elapse it costs more to leave TMO with a non-contract than a contract plan (assumes you've bought a decent smartphone and paying $20/mo over 24 months), Bottom line: No contract is an advantage for those who bring their own device or like to keep a device over 2 years.

Basically, this won't be a consumer advantage until consumers have more freedom with their phone choices (buying and selecting) or until carriers get out of the device business. As if Verizon will let that happen anytime soon.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:34 1

8. Hemlocke (unregistered)

Don't single out the iPhone. The Android flagships are just as expensive, if not more expensive.

posted on 17 Apr 2013, 19:42

11. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)

if not more expensive please point out more expensive android phones than iphones i mean yes the parts are more expensive but the price please cite examples

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 00:09

38. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

Samsung note 2

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 12:41

46. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

MSRP is same as the Iphone 5.

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