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Now it's Samsung's turn to experience a lost mojo

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:14

A high tech company sees its once booming stock drop, wiping out $20 billion of market value in a week as questions are raised about the continued success of its hugely successful flagship smartphone; if you think that we are talking about Apple, you are dead wrong. The company involved here is Korean based Samsung which has seen its stock drop amongst a number of analyst downgrades...

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posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:33 6

24. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)

I don't think HTC One blew the GS4 out of the water. They both have their pros and cons.

The main reason why the Galaxy S4 was a disappointment is because Samsung went safe. The design language is too similar and the software wasn't very well optimized (and thats why we see lags). But the phone has a microsd card slot and a removable back to access the battery which might be worth the boring design for some people. They also added a lot of software features which could be useful for some people. Had Samsung tried to get out of their safe zone and tried something new (like a new design), they could have been more successful with the Galaxy S4.

HTC really surprised me with the HTC One. Firstly the design and the build quality. WOW is all I can say. And the front facing speakers are pretty insane. The only small issues I would have is the placement of the power button and the annoying HTC logo on the front. The software was a surprise as well. Every year I hear that HTC "skinned" down their sense software but I always see lag and disappointment until this year. They REALLY did skin sense down the software and it is as smooth as stock android. The only real complain I have with this phone is that this phone doesn't have removable back for microsd card and the battery but some people would rather have a beautiful design over those features.

And for the rear camera on both smartphones, its a mixed bag. HTC One has great low light performance but the resolution is too small (4 MP) while the GS4 has great details in their pictures/videos because of their 13 MP but poor low light performance. For the front facing camera, I prefer HTC One because it is wide angle. But I prefer the camera features on the Galaxy S4.

As for the display, I would say they are pretty even. It really depends if people want LCD or AMOLED. I prefer LCD but it won't really affect my choice of the two.

They both have pros and cons and I would say they are pretty even. I prefer the HTC One because of the build quality and the speakers. Someone else might prefer removable back and microsd card instead of the features that I like. In the end, it's up to what people want.

I am glad HTC is doing well with the HTC One. It'll only bring competition to Samsung and they will try to innovate. We might even see a Galaxy Note III on aluminum (Or at least a good looking design) :D

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 21:01

47. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)

And the upcoming hTc One mini against sgs4 mini, the hTc T6 against sgs note 3. The advantage of Samsung to others is the replaceable battery that you can swap to depleted one, than bringing external battery juice and waiting your phone to charge.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 21:33

51. pyradark (Posts: 884; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)

Lol, HTC sold 1 Million last month, that is never a success. true the unit itself is a Wow, but sales counts in success like Xperia Z with bad screen, but thanks to its water resistance it hold back S4 success

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:46 13

11. darkkjedii (Posts: 25033; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Pull this article, if not Samsung fanboys will cry a river. They'll run out, and buy 3 S4's apiece to meet analysts demand. Richard Allen Yarrell will not stand for this.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:53 2

14. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

The comment about Richard literally made me lol, well done.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:07 3

16. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

That guy was almost as bad as taco lol

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:13 1

19. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

It's pretty bad. But i do find it little funny. lol

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:45 1

29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

At least taco was relatively civil, sometimes Richard just went in ALL CAPS RAGE.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:43 1

42. darkkjedii (Posts: 25033; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I wonder if taco is still among us, just using a different name. Some one said Mxy was taco, but there's no way. Their commentary was way too different.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:27 1

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 25033; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I think he's permanently banned, but he has a YouTube channel, where he's just as bad lol.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:44 1

28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

He is permanently banned, then he made an alternate account on here which also got banned. I've seen his YouTube account, maybe he'll get banned from there too

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:40 1

40. darkkjedii (Posts: 25033; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Lol I think that dude personally wants to kick the crap outta every iOS user. Hopefully his parents use android...for their sakes.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 05:44

62. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)

You guys are funny. Lol.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:36 3

25. wendygarett (unregistered)

I remember people laugh apple stock tumble so badly and most of them are Sammy fans... Here's the advice, do not laugh someone fails because deja vu is watching you, every company will faced the shares tumble in the end... Just that deja vu will make it coincident :)

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:04 3

33. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

Except it's not their time yet. Stock market is just overreacting(somebody is playing with stock prices), samsung's share price will go back up in no time, unlike Apple's stock price. I'm sure samsung's time will come, but not for awhile.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:31 1

23. MartyK (Posts: 949; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

I love Android...Every couple of years someone slip and another company takes it place, the changing of the leaders coming up..whooo hoooo :)

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:42

26. FlushGordon (unregistered)

With the advent of cheap but very capable China phones...spending $700 on a phone is getting harder and harder to justify

the Premium market is slowly dissolving I guess

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:42 1

27. jiezel91 (Posts: 67; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)

And then here I'm thinking Samsung definitely needs to address the long overdue design issue. I'm not saying the Galaxy S4 is downright ugly. It's just that, there's little to no difference in design with the GS3 and GS4.
And please, don't tell me about bezels and screen size. Those are only minor differences design-wise, that is.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:47 5

30. affandi (Posts: 85; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)

This is good news, Samsung got just a little lazy with the S4... but now they feel a slap in their face and a reality check, they are not untouchable after all...

So this should probably mean that they will make sure the galaxy Note 3 indeed has the "Wow-factor" and step it up a bit. If it's not to late by now that is.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:02 1

32. FlushGordon (unregistered)

4 Things they need to do with the Note 3

1. MAJOR Design overhaul (I don't mind pastics tbh, just change the damn design)
2. 32 gigs Minimum storage
3. Front-facing stereo speakers
4. Of course, bigger battery, that's a given

I honestly am not favor for a 6-incher, make the bezel extremely thin and that would be a major plus...since the 1080p resolution is more than enough for Note 2 owners to justify an upgrade

LASTLY, they need to test it well prior to release, the S4 fell short in many areas because (I feel) it is a rushed product

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:07

34. Andrewtst (Posts: 679; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Samsung never change, S4 sales here also not good, great if Samsung never meet the target as a lesson don't out similar device by recycle it!

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:14 3

37. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1311; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)

Before people start thinking this is true, this is just an analyst prediction, once again analyst PREDICTION lol

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:42

41. moronman66 (Posts: 162; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)

I wouldn't be worried, It even shows in the chart that it's happened before and they've more than recovered from it. Samsung makes too many products to be kept down for too long, they'll find some way out of it soon...

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 20:29 2

44. jellmoo (Posts: 2040; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)

Honestly, Samsung's dominance is so strong in the Android world that will likely take several missteps on their part, coupled with some serious wins from the competition to really have an effect.

Right now, Samsung has two things they should be mulling over. 1) Their penchant for releasing handset after handset after handset and seeing what sticks. I'm sure that this is having a serious impact on their profits. They are winning the war of units sold, but can'r match the profits of Apple. This should tell them that they need to consolidate better. 2) The Galaxy S4 didn't bring out the wow. It sold well, no doubt, but it was their iPhone 4S. A minor evolution. It didn't do anything all that new or exciting. Can you imagine what the One would have sold if it had the marketing power and product placement that Samsung has?

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 21:07 1

48. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1311; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)

Actually Samsung does not sell millions of phones just by marketing, others include being able to sell their phones in more markets and carrier's around the world. They also have enough supply when theirs a huge demand for it. Samsung also puts more features in a phone which is what people want. If they made HTC One, I think it would make the same sales as their current S4. Reason is because HTC One does not have many features to WoW the public, only 4mp camera which is too small to the non geeky buyer and of course non removable battery and no SD card support however it does have a good design and sound quality.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 20:38

45. darkkjedii (Posts: 25033; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Jay-Z is now with Samsung. This is a good partnership.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 01:49 3

56. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Well if they follow the same path as HTC and Dr. Dre, it will be a fail. Hopefully Sammy and Jay Z can do a better job of marketing. The last thing I want to see is some built in "enhanced" sound effects. I can get the same type of enhanced music with PowerAmp.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 20:39 1

46. Kishin (Posts: 706; Member since: 30 May 2013)

Too many products with the name SG4

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 21:16 4

49. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

So indeed "4" is an UNLUCKY Number for South Koreans.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 21:31 3

50. pyradark (Posts: 884; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)

I Was Correct!!! hahaha. if sammy continue releasing the same old boring design
they wont last long, even the bloatware didnt save them!!!
face the raging competition with SOny, Nokia and HTC.

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