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Now it's Samsung's turn to experience a lost mojo

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:14

A high tech company sees its once booming stock drop, wiping out $20 billion of market value in a week as questions are raised about the continued success of its hugely successful flagship smartphone; if you think that we are talking about Apple, you are dead wrong. The company involved here is Korean based Samsung which has seen its stock drop amongst a number of analyst downgrades...

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posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:19 21

1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

Lol I think its time for someone else to lead in this game

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:34 1

8. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

who ?

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:29 11

22. Insignificant (Posts: 192; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

Sony. The arrival of honami is imminent. Here comes the king.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:53 11

31. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4332; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

'Insignificant' proof...
I don't think Samsung will go down *snap* just like that.
It might just be momentary.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:12 1

36. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Looking at the graph, it is momentary. Regardless, they make a wealth of mobile components that are in demand, they can weather a fluctuation like this.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 05:45 6

63. Potato. (banned) (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)

May be Sony, HTC or the old King Nokia :)

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:20 4

2. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)

I think worries about samsungs profit margins may be hasty.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:40 12

10. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

I call for regular stock shenanigans. The current quarter will record Samsung's greatest ever, and the Note III hasn't arrived yet, not to mention some interesting variants like the S4 Active that could saturate an entirely different (rugged) market. And then there's next year with flexible displays...

In any case, there is a shift toward the mid-range as the consumers realize there's plenty of quality there, and Samsung is the mid-range king (too) with several offerings from cameraphone to flagship mini and maxi etc.

And then they'll change up design and then those judging by the book will buy Samsung too... so many cards yet to be played by Sammy, no worries...

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 20:00 8

43. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2236; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)

It's funny that your tune was different when it was happening to Apple, even though they were posting record quarters. Fanboy much?

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 10:22

66. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)

I totally agree. Ups and downs are normal in the mobile industry, as long as they don't take a nose dive like Blackberry or sink like Microsoft. Analysts, in general, are just that: 'anal'ists!! Besides, many of them work for Apple so, it's expected that they create volatility in Apple's favor.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 14:36 1

69. ecmedic4 (Posts: 420; Member since: 02 May 2013)

Wow another Apple bias conspiracy theory. Please provide some actual proof that "many of them work for Apple". Im so sure that the wall street bankers that are mentioned in this article are secretly Apple employee's. Apple haters say some of the dumbest things that it is just amazing. I think if that was true they would be making comments to boast Apple's stock price, but please troll somemore.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:20 3

3. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

The stock market is a fickle place..

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:08 4

35. bucky (Posts: 3141; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

It is now that its Samsung.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:18

38. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

Ok :)

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:24 27

4. Cha7520 (Posts: 221; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)

I think Samsung was shocked to see the success of the HTC One and getting the Cell Phone of the year, etc. The HTC One blows the GS4 out the water. Its a truely innovative phone.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:27 16

5. ebubekir26 (Posts: 334; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)

no, we all know the s4 beats the HTC One, so kindly shut up

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:36 17

9. Commentator (Posts: 3722; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

In the same way that the iPhone 4S beat the Galaxy S II, maybe. Samsung is secure in sales for the short-term, but as the article states, the S4 lacks the "wow-factor" of its predecessors. Just as the iPhone 4S was more of a refresh of the iPhone 4, the S4 takes the same design-language of the S3 and adds a few perks. However, just as the Galaxy SII was a revelation for Samsung, the One has proven that HTC isn't quite out of the game yet.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:51 7

13. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

exactly, perfect comment

i dont think anyone saw the HTC One been as good as it turned out to be, easily on par with the s4 depending on what you look for in your phone. this could be HTC's time to shine if other start getting lazy

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:59 4

15. alterecho (Posts: 1099; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


posted on 17 Jun 2013, 09:29

64. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:22 2

20. wendygarett (unregistered)

I have a client that have gs4, it took me half an hour to realise that the client is actually bought new phone, thanks to stupid bulky spidgen cases to hide the beauty on it, I thought it was a note 2 in the 1st place...

maybe that's the reason why people don't buy that, people expect to be asked and praised to have new phone with that kind of price, not be questioned tho...

I'm not sure about the HTC one, I saw once and the phone user make it naked, but in my country, most people are hyping Xperia z and bb z10... And they all naked...

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 11:17

67. Notsosuperdave (Posts: 29; Member since: 15 May 2013)

Um the 4S beats nothing - unless you have nothing- then sell your 4S to help finance your New BBZ10

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:49 10

12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Well, it's all a matter of opinion. Being honest though, HTC really did make a winner with the One. The GS4 might sell more, but HTC really deserves more sales.

HTC completely revamped Sense from a heavy, laggy UI to a light, smooth, and very appealing interface. They also took their design to a whole new level, getting amazing amounts of praise from every single reviewer and gaining the attention of many consumers. They also did what every manufacturer should have been doing, and put very high quality stereo speakers on the front of their phone. They took a different route from the competition and put a 4 MP camera on the One, which gave it industry leading low light performance right up there with the Lumia 920, and focused on optical software to still take great pictures/video all around.

Meanwhile, Samsung just incrementally updated the GS3. Same overall design, just less rounded, with that same terrible hyper glaze coating. Quad core A9 processor and 1 GB RAM, to quad core A15 processor plus 4 battery saving cores and 2 GB of RAM, which struggle to run the bloated software fluidly, yes it can be fixed with an update but it should never have been like that in the first place. As for software, they added a few good features, but most of them were gimmicks that just took up memory, and overall Touchwiz still looked the same.

The camera was one of the only things I was impressed with on the GS4, it does take amazing shots but still falls behind in low light compared to the Lumia 920 and HTC One. The 1080p AMOLED screen is beautiful, but other than that I don't see anything impressive.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:09 1

17. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

HTC did alot of things well with the One, but still made few mistakes like the sense with only two buttons and the low resolution camera (they would have been better off if they had chosen sony's 13 megapixel camera like other flagship phones).
Besides, HTC didn't do too well in april and may. If HTC numbers do not improve significantly in june. They'll stay a niche player in smartphone market, always struggling with profit margins.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 18:09 1

18. proto (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)

IMO i can't decide...s4 or One? i will buy 1 of them. i know HTC have that nice frontspeakers...excelent design and much better call quality, but 5 inch screen in more compact body(and it is AMOLED display...and I pesonaly like AMOLED displays more) and better camera...well camera is very important for me and that on S4 is much better (well not in nightshots but normaly i do not make photos in night)

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 19:19 2

39. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

It really depends. Do you want all the features of the GS4, or the fluidity of the One? Note: a lot of the features on the GS4 only work in perfect conditions. Smart Pause or Smart Scroll typically don't work very well, sometimes not at all, when you're in a low light environment.

I understand that the GS4 has a more compact body, but that doesn't really help when most of the interface is in tabs. The One is actually the most suited for one handed use. Like the Settings, you have to reach all the way to the top of the screen to find different settings, while with the One you just scroll down. Same thing with the Phone app, with the GS4 you need to stretch all the way up to get to your contacts, call logs, etc. While with the One you just swipe over.

As for AMOLED vs S-LCD, that's a matter of preference. I personally don't mind, I had to switch from an AMOLED display to an LCD when my GS2's display cracked, and honestly I didn't miss AMOLED; you might not miss it either, especially considering S-LCD3 really is amazing, if you haven't seen one I highly recommend it. Now I'm using a GS3, but I still wouldn't mind if I had to switch to LCD, which I probably will because I'm picking up a Nexus 4 soon.

The GS4 has the best overall camera between the two. If night sots aren't your thing, and camera is a main concern, I would lean towards the GS4. The One still takes great shots, but not quite up to the GS4.

If build quality, one handed use, a clean UI, awesome speakers, and a great low light camera is what you want, then get the One.

If a ton of features, a great overall camera, and expandable storage/removable battery are important to you, get the GS4; just know you'll have to deal with a little lag and lack of on board storage because of all those features until Samsung sends out an update.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 01:47 1

55. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Don't placed too much emphasis on the night shots because my Note II takes good night shots once you switch the scene to night mode.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 14:39

70. ecmedic4 (Posts: 420; Member since: 02 May 2013)

Not taking someone elses opinion very well? Maybe for his needs, the HTC One beats the S4, everyone does have different needs/preferences. You should "kindly shut up" and accept that fact.

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:29 2

6. smallworld (Posts: 504; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

Keep dreamin'...

posted on 16 Jun 2013, 17:31 8

7. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

HTC people are so funny. I don't whether to laugh or ignore them.

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