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Nokia tested Android-powered handsets before Microsoft purchase

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:53

Basically ever since Nokia first partnered with Microsoft to build handsets exclusively running Windows Phone, there have been those who have wanted to see the company ditch that strategy and begin developing Android devices. Of course, that possibility is gone now that Microsoft has agreed to purchase Nokia's devices unit...

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posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:04

35. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

So just because Android is in demand means Nokia will dominate the market if they happen to enter in it? That's ridiculous. If that were true, every single major Android OEM would have a very decent amount of market share, and Samsung wouldn't be dominating everyone.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 23:04

49. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

No, what's funny is how and why Nokia would listen to Microsoft, I mean why would the let them run their company?

Microsoft destroy their chance in the mobile world, why would any company let them run their company?

It's like Samsung allowing Sanyo to run their company..... lol

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:01 1

5. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Wouldn't make much sense for them to go Android with Elop at the helm.

I'd rather they bring back Sailfish, aka Meego.

But fret not! In three years Nokia can start to make phones again if they want.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:03 5

7. papss (unregistered)

Another award winning article by Michael..of course they tested units... Geez captain obvious say it isn't true. For a company you have to look at all options.. Do you really think they would just do WP and not ever weigh the option of going android too?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:06 6

8. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Judging by elop, yes. He already had other in house options like the N9, which became the inferior Lumia. You know, the phone that outsold all their WPs at the time?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:11 5

10. papss (unregistered)

Listen you can hate on Elop but he can't do a thing without he board saying okay... It takes more than him saying yes. The Lumia line is a great line no matter the sales.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:31 3

14. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Sure, and if the board was really in control they should have fired him after his wonderful burning memo sent Nokia in a free fall.

Lumia line is a major regression in refinement and features, compared to everything else Nokia made.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:28 1

38. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

As an admitted and proud Nokia fan and repeat owner (first was a 3590, just bought a Lumia 925 in July, see my profile for the complete list), I have to strongly and vehemently disagree about the Lumias being a regression in terms of refinement. I'll agree on the features, somewhat, at least in terms of USB OTG, built-in FM broadcaster, IR blaster (on older models), and onboard file/folder management are still missing and still things I'd like, but not necessary anymore with Bluetooth and NFC and easy computer connection (Zune and the new WP app are miles better than the old Ovi Suite, which was still among the best on the market (and anything is better than itunes or only using a file manager rather than a GUI/program that sorts and organizes for you).
To elaborate on what I started to say, the refinement is definitely better on the Lumias. My 925 and 900 feel solid and unyielding all over, whereas my 701, C7, and 5230 had a few places that felt flimsy or cheap. One of my 5230s had the internal power connector fail (not sure if damaged while being charged or internal flaw), but it definitely screamed "cost-cutting" in a few places, especially the screen. Don't get me wrong, they were great phones in their day and I liked them a lot - still have them all in functional condition, in fact, as redundant backups and loaners - but in all honesty, the Lumias beat them hands-down. Now I will grant that the older phones were made in greater volumes, hence the quality being just above a modern Samsung, plus they had removable parts like the battery covers, but even the Lumia 810/820/822 and 620/625 have removable covers that feel and look much better than their ancestors.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:44 1

41. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Yeah, rather disappointingly, Michael Heller seems to be on an anti-Nokia/Microsoft streak of late. I wonder why? He did that excellent series about switching to WP (one of the Samsung Focus models, I believe) years ago, and he really seemed mostly unbiased and rational, as far as bloggers and tech journalists go.

What happened?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 23:17

50. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


What happen is reality, the writing on the wall, like a lot of people he was under the belief, that Microsoft would lead Nokia to the number one position over Andriod.

He did not take the time to look around the Internet and see how the followers of Android was mob deep.. He should had came over to xda community and witness all the great things happening to Android, but like you he refuseto face reality, but he's smart enough to know he was wrong, unlike Nokians, they have nothing left. Because of Ms and their followers, like a virus they consume the host. Lol

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 01:29 2

59. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

Too quick on the draw eh minute man? He stated that Nokia had been testing Android OS BEFORE THE DEAL TO SELL THE COMPANY TO MS. Got to love these defended of the crown, spray and pray type of comments on here. Go back and read the bloody article before making comments that make you look a lot less than you are good sir. Kind of breaks your entire tired comment into small impossible to put back together pieces eh? The rest of your atta boy buddies should also read before just thumbing up comments that are wrong on all accounts. PA comments section, barrel of laughs at times.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:25

12. madmikepr (Posts: 138; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)

the n9 wasn't android was meego... ?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:25 3

13. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)

Oh that's so sad, what could have been... :(

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:41

15. promise7 (Posts: 891; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

i doubt they were going to abandon windows. most likely they were going to make both. if they did start to make android phones with low off contract prices like some of the nokia models then i could see them making a splash in the tough android market.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:56 1

17. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

The acquisition was essentially a negotiated hostile takeover, in that instead of paying $1B a year to keep Nokia exclusively WP, they could buy Nokia's D&S unit for 5 years' worth of investment. Sound, shrewd, and savvy business move.

As for Nokia testing android, I only ever understood them to try it around 2010/11 and finding it woefully inadequate for Nokia's high standards, hence the development of the short-lived MeeGo Harmattan. Android is dominant now, but as palm, apple, blackberry, Kodak, and IBM have proved, even seemingly undefeatable giants fall. I'm glad Nokia didn't make any, because there's no assurance that they wouldn't be as bad or worse off then they are now - which they probably would have been being cash-strapped and scroogle being unwilling to help with any transition for the world's then-biggest (and still second-biggest) phone manufacturer.

In all honesty, how many androners here would have bought a Nokia Android phone instead of what they bought? Presuming that they used the exact hardware that prior Lumias came with? I'm a Nokia loyalist but given the choice between WP and androne, I would have (and did, twice now) chosen WP

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:00 2

26. bwhiting (Posts: 188; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)

Valid point for that statement...I would of chosen their WP than anything else. Android wise I stick to Motorola or LG for those devices. I would say that it would be best that they kept with the WP instead because financially it would be more of a benfit for them.

All in all, at least they got some profit from going with WP instead of with Android because not many would even buy it.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 23:24

52. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

How many you ask would brought a Nokia? ...I would say 80% would had,
Again please listen ....

Andriod lovers loves power and hardwares. We love to modify our devices, every article ever written had something to do with spec.

Samsung won the Android Market because they went with the best spec.
Touch wiz, we remove that crappie ui from the device, go over to xda and you will see the real heart of Android.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:24

22. 1david (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Sep 2013)

people were waiting to see Nokia producing an android phone mostly in Nigeria, please make it done!!!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:48 1

25. Kishin (Posts: 706; Member since: 30 May 2013)

Its 2 late to join android cause when people talk about android they only see samsung in the picture no other phones

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:18 2

37. aditya.k (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)

Nope. I always think of Sony! :)

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:05 1

28. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2287; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)

Android seems too cheap of an OS, to be on a premuim devics like NOKia, idk.. i dont think it will function right,,,,IMO

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:40 2

40. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

You are quite right. Nokia looked into it around 2010 and found it awful, and during negotiations with google, insisted that they be given free rein to clean up and optimize the OS, in exchange for google financially assisting them through the transition from Symbian since Nokia wouldn't release any new phone until the OS was optimal (legendary Nokia QC and UI/UX concerns). Google refused both financial help and access to the OS's guts, and the rest is history.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 23:49 1

56. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

I bet ex employee of Nokia don't think so now, Nokia did think it was to good ...rip Nokia. Lol

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:17 1

29. Blazers (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

A Nokia Android phone would have probably been skinned to look like Symbian Belle (which is a good thing). They could have carved out a place for themselves as an alternative from TW and AOSP.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:37

32. lyndon420 (Posts: 5008; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Why did ms know about this? It's none of their business what another business does with their business.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:50 4

33. Blazers (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

It was probably Elop who kept MS informed of everything Nokia did. He was Microsofts boy from the beginning.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:17

36. aditya.k (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)

What if Lumia 1520 was actually an Android powered device and MS bought Nokia on time to make it a WP8 device!? :/ :P

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:56 1

44. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

It wouldn't be called a Lumia then.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 09:52

68. aditya.k (Posts: 496; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)

I never said it would be called Lumia 1520, I just referred to it with the name its known!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 22:05

46. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Just for the hell of it, I want to see Nokia make a 6" pure-android 4.4 with the 1020's camera system and apps (presuming they can be made to work on android), full HD screen (or 4K, for the hell of it), lots of cores and RAM, offer no subsidy and perhaps restricted production volumes and/or high price tag ($700-1000) just to either say they made an android phone, and test the resolve and commitment of the whiners saying they'd absolutely buy a Nokia phone with android. At the very least, it would be amusing, and possibly scare the other OEMs and make them either show respect or work to build a competitive model.

TL;DR: Nokia sticks Android on the rumored Lumia 1520 "Bandit/Beastie" without a subsidy and stands by with popcorn to see the chips fall.

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