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Nokia tested Android-powered handsets before Microsoft purchase

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:53

Basically ever since Nokia first partnered with Microsoft to build handsets exclusively running Windows Phone, there have been those who have wanted to see the company ditch that strategy and begin developing Android devices. Of course, that possibility is gone now that Microsoft has agreed to purchase Nokia's devices unit...

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posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:55 16

1. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2226; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)

Hope they don't go for Android. They'll be doomed. Stick with WP.

Well they can't. Good.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:02 34

6. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)

yeah they should have used android 3 years ago

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:11 5

21. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Before SS gained all their momentum. Would be an interesting landscape if that had happened.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:32 7

30. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Yuppers. It would be Nokia dominating the market not Samsung.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 01:55 3

60. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

they tried it and it sucked....

nokia demanded that MS get its software to run on lower end devices

if you know anything about nokia, you would know that they are not spec warriors

and if you know android... you know tht it sucks on low end devices

check out the specs of the n9 and the n900

nokia has yet to release a top specced phone(lumia 1520 isnt released yet)

that is nokias policy.... smoothness on less

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 11:40 1

69. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)

Agree, if they used Android in 2011 they shouldn't loose any money. Nokia wake up and make android too.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:44 9

16. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

And we see how great going exclusively WP turned out for Nokia, right?

Android and Windows devices would have been the logical choice, but I won't bother trying to convince you of that. There was as huge Nokia following that splintered off into iOS and Android for various reasons. Many of the iOS converts are probably lost forever, but many of the Android converts (like myself) felt Android an Nokia would have been a dream device. To ignore those people was their doom.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:55 3

42. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Consider this: what if Nokia had gone android (presuming google gave into their requests to change android from the ground-up and get financial assistance to ease the transition), and Samsung hadn't, and had solely supported Windows Phone with the marketing budget and manufacturing scale, power, and influence they have? In essence, a role reversal? Keep in mind Nokia wouldn't have been able to release any new Android phones at LEAST until early- or mid-2012, and the two biggest android makers at the time were Motorola and HTC.

How would the mobile landscape be different? Would apple be more or less dominant? Would Palm/HP still be making phones? Would blackberry/RIM still be around? Could Nokia have had the ability to make both MeeGo and Android, and gradually force Android out and MeeGo in, especially with MeeGo being a LOT leaner, more modern, more efficient, and technically more capable and mod-able? Would WP have Android's market share? Would Android have gotten past the Honeycomb hornswoggle (if it happened at all)? Would Sony and LG given up on smartphones entirely, or committed to WP (keeping in mind that LG was one of the original four main WP brands with HTC, Samsung, and Dell)? So many different outcomes and possibilities, even still.

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 00:12 1

57. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Meego was really good, but still no Android. The thing is, Motorola and htc both got lazy leaving a big hole for ANY other Android oem to just slide through. Think about it, before the GS1, Samsung digital phones were the worst on the market, especially if it had a touchscreen. Then they started using Android and now there are Galaxy's all over the place. Now if Android can elevate Samsung so quickly, why wouldn't it work for the best oem on earth?

The thing is, Elop never wanted Nokia to be succeed. He was sent there to bring it down from the inside out. He knew if Nokia made an Android device, the company would have not only been in the red, but they would have dominated. And m$ wouldn't have gotten the deal of the century. The plan worked perfectly.

posted on 15 Sep 2013, 00:09

72. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 813; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)

U are saying "Whatever" comes too your mind... LOL

posted on 15 Sep 2013, 10:24

73. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Well, look at where the two companies were in 2007. Nokia was at the top while Samsung struggled. They had a few successes, but nothing even close to Nokia. Mow look at where each company sits. Do you have any other explaination?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:56 1

43. nlbates66 (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)

well, Nokia phones make up more than 60% of Windows phones small, but rapidly growing market share, so what? There's no way to definitively prove they'd have wound up any better than HTC is right now if they'd went Android.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 22:59 1

48. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

Well everyone who has been around a long time and witness the fall of great companies, try to warn all you true Blue Nokian that they Window lovers and MS. Was out to take the company you love, but you boys didn't listen, now Nokia is no more.

Then to have people claim it was a good decision to go with Window is beyond intelligent to me, instead of turning that Titanic around, full stream ahead shouts Window lovers. So sad

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 22:14

71. maxima (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)

You're wrong!! Had Nokia use Android, they would be still in business.
Windows phone is a joke! Why would anyone buy or use one? It's no wonder why Windows phone don't sell as well as Android and iphone on any carrier, and the phone manufacturers know this all to well. I use Windows on my PCs, but I will not use it on my mobile devices.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:56 9

2. garyyad (Posts: 10; Member since: 22 May 2012)

I WISH.....

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:56 19

3. Seo_Joo_Hyun (Posts: 65; Member since: 14 Jul 2013)

they would be dominating the android market if they did go with it

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:59 6

4. hassoups (Posts: 473; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)

yeh right.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:07 16

9. Seo_Joo_Hyun (Posts: 65; Member since: 14 Jul 2013)

no joke i'm dead serious

posted on 14 Sep 2013, 02:52 1

62. lalalaman (Posts: 637; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)

if they had 3yrs back...no way now

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:22 2

11. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)

just like HTC...

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:56 1

18. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

They would be too if it weren't for their crappy Evo phones that everyone complained about, or the Thunderbolt.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:32 4

23. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

EVO was actually a good phone but they had some real duds to follow it up with. 3D was nothing but gimmick and the Shift had horrible app storage space. HTC had the first 4G phone and lost all the momentum it gave them.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:47 3

24. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

They had great devices for the most part, just bad management. Too many small tedious changes between very similar devices. Carrier exclusivity with carriers who weren't pushing their devices. Bad over bloated skins that hampered the whole phone. They screwed their own position.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 17:57 5

19. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

HTC didn't go down because of Android. It was because of bad management, no vision, no innovation, and stale UI. And it look like they're about to make the same mistake twice. The HTC One is a great phone, but 8 ultra pixels would have been much better. Blink feed should be removeable and the HTC logo should be active. It's a good phone, but they seem to get in their own way most of the time.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:35 4

31. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Don't forget that htc spent a couple years there getting raped in the courts by apple - back when htc was the threat instead of Samsung.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 20:51 1

34. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)


posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:57

45. nlbates66 (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)

yeah, absolutely don't understand why they put a logo there instead of using the spot for a button.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 21:35

39. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Quite so. Remember, HTC made the first Android phone, and some of the earliest appealing ones. I had a T-Mobile G2 (aka HTC Desire Z) and HTC Sensations, and as media and mobile game players they were good, but pretty unreliable, and crap as phones, their primary function. I'm not sure if it was the clusterf••k that was the gap between 2.3 and 4.0, that 2.3 barely made it on most phones in a reasonable amount of time, Sense 4.5 being terrible, or the software/battery issues they were having. I suspect they got too big for them to handle themselves, which is where Samsung succeeded, and something Nokia's been great at - except for certain batteries - for almost two decades.

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 18:09 4

20. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

That's funny. Nokia can't even succeed in WP where they're the only ones actually selling them, do you really think Nokia would have a chance in an OS that's overflowing with competition?

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 19:02 5

27. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Yes they would, because it is an OS that is in demand. The dumbest argument that the Nokia/WP fans make is that they went with WP "only" to make money and differentiate. You can differentiate all you want, but if you're selling something no one wants then you're not gonna sell regardless. If they sold both factions then they would be completely covered. Yes it costs more to support both but they were a fairly huge company with what were deep pockets. They had to wait 3 years for WP 8 while they slowly sunk and were finally given an OS that was too far behind in ecosystem. Going with WP only was the dumbest thing they could have done all for pennies from Microsoft. MS just made back all the money they gave to Nokia and them some. Gave them 2 billion to shrink their value by about 80+ billion, buy major chunk for 7.

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