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Nokia receives design patent for phone with big camera hump, but it is not a new Lumia model

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Dec 2012, 17:48

Another Nokia model with PureView might be coming based on the design patent received by the Finnish based manufacturer on December 11th of this year; this apparently is not a Nokia Lumia model running Windows Phone 8 as others have been reporting earlier, but is the Nokia 801T running Symbian Anna...

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posted on 16 Dec 2012, 17:53 9

1. smallworld (Posts: 504; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

A patent ? Really ?

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 18:03 9

3. nyamo (Posts: 274; Member since: 19 Mar 2011)

my thoughts exactly.... how many phones have a camera hump already?

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 19:12

9. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

I know, Right?

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 21:58 4

17. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1642; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

The patent is NOT FOR the camera hump. The patented design is for a Nokia phone WITH a camera hump.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 01:36

23. smallworld (Posts: 504; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

Still excessive.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 03:11

25. The_Prototype (unregistered)

You never know what another manufacturer would do these days....

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 17:55 4

2. cripton805 (Posts: 1485; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)

Do people really need 20-40mp cameras? 3mp camera phones were enough for me.
I almost never take pics at 8mp because of the storage and transfer times.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 18:25 21

6. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

Answer my question honestly....are you stupid, stupid, just plain stupid, hella stupified, or big and stupid? So you even know how pureview works? Do you even know how advanced cellphone camera's have gotten in the last 11 months? It has surpassed the point where you forgot your camera at the house and you use yourself phone as a reluctant last resort...It has gotten to the point that you can ditch that 250$ point and shoot and can take photos on your iPhone 5, Galaxy SIII, or One X+, and have photos if not just as good as, just as comparable to that of a point and shoot.

As for pureview, it is none other then oversampling of images. Every six pixels is combined into one pixel so the photo comes out as a photo with a resolution six time smaller then the 38 or 32 mega pixels it was taken at. The size is then compressed and the photos are about 3MB's in size.

And just because it's good enough for you doesn't mean it's good enough for me...I was born a pixel peeper.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 18:49 1

7. rgxVOiD (Posts: 440; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

"Stupid" says the guy who ditch point-and-shoot for a camera phone

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 20:25 11

10. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

I ditched my 200 dollar point and shoot for my 200 dollar cellphone and I can tell you the image quality is no different. The only thing I miss is the 12x optical zoom but of all the times I used my phone, I only missed my optical zoom like twice and I was trying to snap some pics of some merlins since we don't get a lot of them in the region. And those little things fly so fast, even when they aren't hunting.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 21:11

13. cripton805 (Posts: 1485; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)

Are you stupid? I dont spend my time looking at the specs of dirt in my hundreds of photographs. My pictures already look great when I connect my phone through HDMI or I blow them up.

I dont own a camera for the same reason, because the pictures I take with todays cameras on our cell phones come out great. Ive had VERY large pictures printed from my cell phones and theyve been great. I dont need a picture the size of my wall.

You might waste your time zooming as close as you can to see that first grey hair on your head. I have much better stuff to do.

Your definition of stupid might be different than mine, because I think would be really stupid to waste my time doing that instead of spending time with my kids, family, or making money.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 22:03 5

18. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

IDK why I called you stupid, but my point was that it seemed you didn't acknowledge the fact that cellphone cameras have advanced...that was my argument. I am avid birder so I need to take photos on the birds rapidly. And its more then a hobby.

And my point is that a cellphone is fast, and more nimble then my big clunky camera. It isn't perfect though. And when it comes to birds, shutter speed is the most important thing and my phone beats my camera at times.

As for looking at the specs of dirt in my photos....I think that is a little crazy. lol I do need the extra detail though. When I take photos of mergansers out on the lake, cropping is my best friend....and if cellphone camera's hadn't advanced as much, I'd be out of my job. lol

In a nutshell, I just like the versatility my cellphone camera can offer at times. It's not perfect and I miss many of the features my big megazoom has but I do the biggest trade off is speed and ease of use over, you know....full features of a bridge camera....

But as for taking photos of my family and friends....my cellphone is just awesome and in my opinion is much more convenient then my actual camera. Its easier to share stuff. But just casual photos....all that extra editing and stuff....its not mandatory so I don't do it. But I do try to take the best possible photo regardless at the highest resolution my phone allows. I can't help it. lol

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 18:03 7

4. tedkord (Posts: 14192; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

This is getting absurd. A patent for a hump. These companies are making a mockery of the patent system, taking advantage of the ineptitude of government employees.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 18:12 4

5. cripton805 (Posts: 1485; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)

They're protecting themselves. Someone could buy the patent they never bought and sue them for the hump they already had on their device a year prior

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 19:11 3

8. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4786; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Actually no they can't. One of the things that has to happen when applying for a patent is the applicant has to include any prior art, ie anything that is similar to what they want to patent. That's one of the reasons we have the mess with patents we do now. Company A applies for a patent in December 2010, but other companies come out with something similar shortly after. The patent is approved in August of 2011 (due to the sheer volume of patent applications) but by then what has now been approved is used industry wide. While company A has the patent and can sue their competitors, a victory may not happen since it could in effect cripple said industry.

The main problem is these companies are patenting every little thing, instead of only patenting those things that are truly ground breaking and innovative. The reasons most do that is to have leverage if they find themselves on the wrong side of a lawsuit, use it to pick up extra money to funnel back into the company, or limit the playing field and keep a stranglehold on the industry.

I firmly believe that if patents were limited to truly take changing innovations, there wouldn't be near the backlog at the patent office.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 20:44

12. Shubham412302 (Posts: 455; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)

why wont nokia file a patent
nokia earns $6 billion a year on patents

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 20:44

11. Mfa901 (Posts: 291; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)

read the headline nicely its a patient for a phone whose camera has a hump its not a patient for a hump....
bloody mocs :p

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:44 1

21. brucewayne (Posts: 29; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

lol..The ppl who dont know the spelling of PATENTS are talking about it..

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 02:22

24. samystic (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)

it indicates android fanboism

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 07:24

29. Mfa901 (Posts: 291; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)

Oh sorry uncle I forgot that your English classes are going on
I thought its phonearena blog......

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 21:39 6

14. samystic (Posts: 231; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)

i think this patent actually makes sense... 1st of all it's only Nokia which can use humps on their phones and still don't make it look ugly and / or too minimalistic (in case of HTC phones)... imagine possibilities of using humps - projector pureview, optical pureview (using actual optics instead of digital optics)... possibilities with Nokia are endless


posted on 16 Dec 2012, 21:40

15. jameshoe (unregistered)

Nokia x8... release

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 21:48

16. kushki (Posts: 49; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

Smart move... If other company wants to go for a bigger (20-40) Mp camera phone, they have to have some kind of hump which is now patented. Awesome move Nokia, make a few more pureview.

posted on 16 Dec 2012, 23:50

19. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

Another s**t...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:09 1

20. Kal-el (Posts: 96; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)

LOL at least apple won't have that LOL

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 00:47

22. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Interesting, it's like a newer but toned-down and more pocket-friendly N8

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 19:05

26. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Jeezes NOKIA do u have to act like APPLE NOW?

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 04:59

27. jameshoe (unregistered)

hoping for the Nokia droid phone with all-new technology

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 07:20

28. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1584; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Hmm looks like another Nokia Lumia model with a pure vue camera is on it's way to us folks. I wonder what the rest of the specs on this New Nokia smart phone will be maybe it will be that gigantic Nokia smart phone that has been seen on the web lately..

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