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Nokia Lumia 1020: Smartphone camera reinvented

0. phoneArena posted on 11 Jul 2013, 14:51

The Nokia 808 PureView introduced a revolutionary smartphone camera technology to the world, but it always felt like bringing this innovation to the market alongside a dead OS was largely a wasted effort. Everyone loved the powerful camera, but no one fancied the Symbian-powered smartphone, especially when the fate of Symbian was perfectly clear...

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posted on 12 Jul 2013, 13:34 1

42. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

hey whoyton. we had a little agreement about our further discussion but you can expand it toward the others as well. Let´s stop using this redneck language and be more polite otherwise this site will change into some sh*@hole even more.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 15:41 3

14. ZeroCide (Posts: 785; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)

The only thing boring are all your comments here on PA

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:18 2

20. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)

Hahahaha very good......but in all seriousness WPI is awesome ! I love it its incredible wish I had my 8s with me now but sadly it broke......

posted on 25 Jul 2013, 07:05

63. LumiaLover (Posts: 193; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)

Well don't then!

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 15:40 5

12. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

The only thing impressive about this device is the camera, over a year old specs in every other department and you know Windows 8.1 with 1080p displays and quad core processors are just right around the corner. Not bashing this device, it's camera is very impressive and will be a joy for many camera lovers, but I can't justify spending 300 dollars on such old hardware on every other spec department when Microsoft is very known to NOT release major updates to previous gen devices.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 15:48

17. roldefol (Posts: 4364; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

You're right, the camera is the sole selling point of the 1020 over the much cheaper 920/925/928. But I don't think the 1020 is meant to be Nokia's flagship, just their flagship cameraphone. I'm sure the 'real' flagship Lumia will arrive this fall with the processor and screen upgrades you're looking for at a more competitive price. I doubt it will have the 41 MP camera though.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 15:46 3

16. SingDaFire (Posts: 74; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)

Seriously try it.. Once you own that thing you won't feel like leaving it.. Gonna get it when it comes in my country..;)

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 22:47 1

38. htc_evo_3d (Posts: 84; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)

I personally love Nokia and pureview camera.. but i can't hope that Nokia combines Pureview and Android. :(

who wouldn't buy a phone with Nokia + 41mp Pureview + Android ?!!

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:03

50. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

We need a Nokia made nexus with their pureview camera on it.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 14:40

57. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)

Me. You asked.

posted on 20 Jul 2013, 14:24

59. saffant (Posts: 274; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)

It's not catered towards housewives anyways..

posted on 25 Jul 2013, 07:08

64. LumiaLover (Posts: 193; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)

I wouldn't! Nokia & WP...a marriage made in heaven.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:16 3

19. FlushGordon (unregistered)

I have ran out of negative things to say. Lol

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:21 4

22. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)

LOL its like talking to a brick wall.....your voicing your opinion but the only thing staring back is the blank brick wall......

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:35 2

24. Ruisleipä (Posts: 31; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)

You guys need to accept that Nokia is awesome, go ahead, buy one and use it for a week and then tell me what you think.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:45 3

27. FlushGordon (unregistered)

It's an expensive point and shoot camera tucked in a crappy OS with an outdated hardware

$300 on contract = $700-$800 unlocked

Now ASK yourself if it's worth it or not

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:50 1

29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

There was official pricing, it's $650 off contract on AT&T (info from Pocketnow). It's basically in the same price range as the Note II.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 17:04 2

30. FlushGordon (unregistered)

Price will substantially go higher overseas due to taxes

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 18:32

34. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Well, aren't phones usually $700-800 unlocked anyways? I know in the U.S if you buy electronics overseas they cost a lot more, a GS4 is over $700, same for an HTC One, over $800 if you want a 64 GB model. There's actually a pre-order for the 1020 on Negri Electronics, and it costs about the same ($735).

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 22:00

37. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

FlushBordom, you do have a right to your own opinion, but others feel differently about WP8, and they value having an intuitive UI more than flexibility or a greater number of apps. You cannot have everything, and Android sucks for speed especially - at the low end - and is both highly insecure and badly fragmented. Also, it lacks real Microsoft Office editing capability, and Outlook.

posted on 12 Jul 2013, 00:13 1

39. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Android is only insecure when you download things outside of the Play Store, and fragmentation is a blown out issue. The majority of apps in the Play Store only require 2.3 and up, a small portion require 4.0, and only apps like DashClock require 4.2.

No consumers care about fragmentation as long as they can get the apps they want, which 98% of them can. I had to switch back to my old Mytouch 4G before when the screen on my GS2 shattered, I returned it and had to wait for my replacement, but the Mytouch 4G is on 2.3. I had no compatibility issues with any of my apps on 2.3, which means the vast majority of consumers probably don't as well. Based on the last report of Android version distribution, that means 95.3% of consumers can get the apps they want. It's not an issue.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 00:01

45. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

Android does have it's advantages, but then so does WP8 OS, and it's users virtually never have to worry about any viruses or spyware. Also, the lower end Lumia 520 is able to run circles around it's nearest Android competitors, due to WP8 OS being able to run faster with less resources. It is also true that fragmentation is an issue for Android, but that issue doesn't exist for WP8 device users. Finally, there are at least 160,000 Apps available for WP8 now, and while that number may pale in comparison to Android or iOS, most people will have no problem adjusting to the software available on the Microsoft side of things. The number of apps should not be a reason for failing to switch if you value having a smartphone with a better camera. It's the QUALITY of software that matters, and 75 percent of the apps on Android are complete and utter junk. There is a reason why they are free to download, and many have not even been fully tested or scrutinized before they are listed on Google's playstore, which is why there is such a huge problem with malware and spyware.

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 01:02

46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


"Of the 51,447 examples of malware discovered by the security firm last quarter, only 146 came from the Google Play store. That means that the main source for apps for most users only was found to have 0.5% of all the malware found. Sure, if you're living in China and using a bootleg non-Google Android device, and constantly sideloading apps, you may be at a higher risk."

As for performance, I have always given WP credit for being the smoothest OS out there. Hopefully Google will be able to make low end device work well on Android with 5.0 KLP, which is said to run smoothly on 512 MB of RAM.

75% of apps being "junk" on the Play Store is MAJORLY over exaggerated. I have not come across a single app that hasn't served me well in my extensive use of Android. I'm sure there are crappy apps out there, but they are very hard to come by.

As for fragmentation;


Yes, WP8 users don't have to worry about being left behind on updates, for now at least. When WP picks up speed in the market, more manufacturers will make devices with it, and there will be more and more devices running WP to take care of with updates, but a lot will inevitably get left behind. It's the downfall of open source.

posted on 20 Jul 2013, 14:26 1

60. saffant (Posts: 274; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)

Why would you compare a low end Android to a flagship competitor OS device? what kind of an idiotic argument is that?

Android does not suck for speed. In fact, when it comes down to webpage load times, game load times etc.. Android's quad cores wipe the floor with WP8.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 16:46 1

28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Nokia is great, but WP is pretty bad. I never really liked it

posted on 25 Jul 2013, 07:11

65. LumiaLover (Posts: 193; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)

Have you even used it?

posted on 14 Jul 2013, 14:04 2

51. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

For $650+ I can get a really nice DLSR.

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 17:08 3

31. Q1Q10 (Posts: 20; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)

atnt exclusive and 300 dollars with contract. The F. Nokia what are you thinking!!!!! This was your chance and you lost it,

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 21:42

36. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Maybe, maybe not. High prices worked for iphone and galaxy s series.

That said, I'm genuinely concerned that this is the first of all high-end phones being priced so high. Subsidies going down, fees going up, upgrades farther apart, profit margins shrinking...

posted on 11 Jul 2013, 18:07 1

33. papss (unregistered)

I'm ordering as soon as they post the site to preorder

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