Nokia 9 PureView listing points towards one big disappointment

The Nokia 9 PureView could land equipped with just 4GB of RAM, a new Android Enterprise Recommended listing. The smartphone will also feature a 6-inch display, 128GB of storage, and Android 9 Pie.
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50. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You are right about the chip; again, I’m not saying that Nokia is a bad device - quite the contrary, I’m just saying Android - even stock - needs at least 6 GB.

54. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

We are definitely going to have to agree to disagree on that one. My experiences with stock Android have proven to me that 3GB are fine.

57. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I'm used with iOS and a 4GB Android cannot match the XR when it comes to RAM management. 6GB is the sweet spot, 8 GB means you can make the switch between 2-3 intensive apps (I haven't been using a device with more than 8GB). But you are right: 4GB is fine enough for average usage.

59. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

iOS RAM management is better than Android’s. We agree on that. But I’ve had no issues with 3/4GB of RAM on Stock Android Nokia smartphones. Now, if we are talking about the processor, that’s a different ball game entirely. The SD6xx was not made for intensive usage, and certainly cannot match high end processors. They are better at managing power consumption.

85. Boogieman

Posts: 33; Member since: Jun 02, 2013

My s9+ ran well in the start with 6Gb of ram and battery lasted well over one day (25-30h). Now 6 months later its laggy (Even finger print sensing) and battery last about 14hours. And I have not updated to pie yet and have plenty of space left (im no havy app user) - i guess samsung are a bit like apple now - quick when new but then sag quickly. I am ready try a clean android version on the Nokia 9 if the camera lives up to the hype and the 4KAh battery lasts. I do enjoy the Sammy camera and screen, but battery kills it for me.

26. Whitedot

Posts: 704; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

Nonsense

28. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Exactly.

21. AbhiD

Posts: 565; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

When i am buying a flagship for flagship prices i expect the latest specs. 4GB ram and S845 in a 2019 Top Dollar flagship device? Nah! Just doesn't cut it... Other brands will be out with better screens, better audio, better looks, arguably better cameras, better processors (means better performance) more efficient with better battery life, better overall fluidity because with latest OS and all apps and games getting heavy and taxing 4GB just doesn't cut it anymore in a 2k display flagship device. Nokia would have to price it below $700 to sell any pieces, otherwise they would have hard time preventing it from being another FLOP!

45. ijuanp03

Posts: 489; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

If this is an HTC phone, you will say disappointing. But because it's a "Nokia", you all think it's just right. Pathetic.

62. Venom

Posts: 2997; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

If the price rumors are true, then yeah they need to step up the RAM otherwise why go for the Pure view when the OnePlus costs less and offers way more bang for the buck? Nokia has already dropped the ball multiple times with the Pureview so they might as well just price it as a midrange device.

6. michaelny2001

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 01, 2012

for $750, price is very steep for the specs. at that price you can get a slightly used Note 9 with much higher specs. or a brand new LG, or Oneplus, or anything else, really.

7. DFranch

Posts: 511; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

By much higher specs, I assume you mean more memory and s-pen?

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

You can get the same specs right now for that price, so what's steep about it?

46. ijuanp03

Posts: 489; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Nope. You can get a phone with same specs at almost half the price.

47. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

You can get a phone with an in-screen fingerprint scanner and 5 cameras in the back for half the price? O_o Post the link please. I need to see this.

19. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You can get a brand new XR.

48. mahima

Posts: 714; Member since: Nov 20, 2014

What the point of buying xr over this...lol That hd sceen is magic or what

51. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

It’s one of the best screens you can find in a $750 phone.

8. SIGPRO

Posts: 2810; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

If true than it is a bit disappointing to me. I was eagerly waiting for this phone. But let's wait till the MWC.

9. SupersnakeLivesOn

Posts: 8; Member since: Jul 18, 2018

No VoLTE turned on by United States carriers will be a disappointment. I posted the following on the XDA Nokia 7.1 thread following it's release: I see people declaring that their phone has VoLTE (phone calls) or LTE (data connections) solely because their phones have VoLTE and LTE options In their settings. Unless we see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar *during* data connections and unless we see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar *during* a phone call we do not know if their phone and carrier are delivering LTE data and VoLTE calls.

17. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Apple still releases smartphones with 4GB or less, so I don't see why a smartphone running stock Android which is lightweight, with 4GB is an issue. Stock Android is smooth with just 3GB, so 4GB is more than enough.

20. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

iOS and Android have a totally different RAM management system. Gary Sims has a simple and beautiful explanation. iOS manages to do with 3 GB of RAM what Android needs 6 GB for.

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Have you used a stock Android smartphone before? Android manufacturers have different RAM management systems from each other, and stock Android is extremely lightweight and works very well with just 3GB of RAM.

25. AbhiD

Posts: 565; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Yes, just how Pixel 3 sucks even with 4GB of ram, reloading even simple apps. Your excuses are sounding just like of Apple users. But at least they have a point as iOS doesn't require much ram but that's not the case with Android. 3GB is not recommended even with low end phones now a days. People go with 4gb at least and preferably 6gb even in sub $200-250 phones.

27. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Pixels suck at pretty much everything except the camera, so you can't hold a Nokia smartphone accountable for what happens on Pixel smartphones. You sound like someone who wants to complain for the sake of complaining, as opposed to waiting for the actual smartphone to be released and then seeing how it performs. Stock Android smartphones have been shown to run very well on less than 4GB of RAM. And people go with what they can afford or what works best for them. The average consumer doesn't even know how much RAM their smartphone has.

31. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Unfortunately, it doesn't... OEMs have put more RAM and that made their flagships just fine, but that's because - unlike stubborn fans - they understood how Android RAM management works and they owned that; you should do the same, because I'm not saying this is a bad thing.

32. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Actually, it does. I’ve used several stock Android smartphones with 3 and 4GB of RAM, and haven’t experienced RAM management issues. I’ve have experienced those issues on Android smartphones with heavy skins on them. Unlike smartphone users that stubbornly like to assume the worst, I like prefer to test these things out for myself as well as check out reviews from multiple sources. You should do the same, because I’m not saying more RAM is a bad thing.

36. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

If you're happy with apps constantly reloading, I'm ok too. I don't know how you use your phones, but the iPhone taught me never to close the apps and that I can only do - with similar results - on a 6+ GB Android device, everything under is affecting the user experience.

39. meanestgenius

Posts: 21337; Member since: May 28, 2014

Except the apps don't constantly reload on my Nokia smartphones. Nice try, though. ;) I've kept apps open on my Nokia smartphones without any noticeable performance hits. Keep in mind that we are talking about midrange smartphones, so you're not going to get flagship performance out of them.

52. Leo_MC

Posts: 6376; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Yes they do :). C’mon, dude, we’re talking about the exact same phone... You might not like the iPhone, but Note (with a heavier skin) is far better than the Pixel (stock) in managing apps.

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