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NVIDIA to produce K1 powered SHIELD Tablet according to Global Certification Forum

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Jul 2014, 14:54

According to a filing with the Global Certification Forum, the next NVIDIA SHIELD won't be a handheld gaming device. Instead, the new SHIELD will be a mid-sized Android tablet. This would probably be the 7.9 inch NVIDIA Mocha that went for a ride on the GFX Benchmark site last May, powered by a K1 CPU. Xiaomi ended up using the reference device for its MiPad...

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posted on 02 Jul 2014, 15:36 1

1. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)

Seriously Nvidia should just give it up.

Qualcomm is raping them day after day after day

posted on 02 Jul 2014, 15:51 7

3. vincelongman (Posts: 5044; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

In sales yes
But the K1 is likely to be much faster than the 805
The K1 is supposedly faster than the PS3 and Xbox 360, even if that's when its fan cooled that's still very impressive for a mobile CPU
Nvidia just needs to improve their efficiency and dev support

Even if you prefer Qualcomm, you should still want more CPU competition,
If Qualcomm get a monopoly on CPUs, they'll get lazy and stop innovating.

Even right Qualcomm seem to be slowing down, the 801 was basically a overclocked 800
The 805 isn't as big of a leap as the leap from the S4 Pro to the 800

The 810 should really be released this year IMO, Apple has already been using custom ARM v8 since last year for their A7 and Nvidia are about to use ARM v8 as well for their K1

posted on 02 Jul 2014, 16:53 4

4. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

Qualconm does NOTHING for us gamers but you guys worship them. What has qualcomm done for us? Nvidia made the Shield, launched Tegra Zone, Ported some titles over. Gave shield developer kits to app makers which motivated them to make controller compatibility in their apps, improving gaming for all. what do you need all that horsepower for on a phone if not gaming? So you can win benchmarks? Nvidia has gotten a bad rep Why? Because they killed support for the Tegra processors on some devices? All manufacturers have done that on one device or another. ideally yes, you would get 2 upgrades. like the razr that went from gingerbread Ice Cream Sandwich to jelly bean. But not all of them get that, deal with it.

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 01:17

7. WinDroid (Posts: 77; Member since: 20 May 2014)

Exactly, I still don't think traditional gaming will ever be big on Mobile but Nvidia is seriously the only company doing anything to make it a chance.

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 13:47

11. renz4 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

obviously gaming is not a top priority for Qualcomm. all they need is a part that is winning the benchmark that can be used by OEM as a marketing material. as long as they can convince OEM to use their chip then it is good enough. don't get me wrong. i like snapdragon. but as long as gaming is concern nvidia made a better job at it than qualcomm did. take this for example:


that is not even OpenGL ES 3.0.

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 00:14 1

6. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1619; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

The only real reason Qualcomm has had an advantage over their other CPU competition is because they were able to patent and create an LTE modem on-die. Other manufacturers either have to pay Qualcomm for the right to use their patent if they want to put an LTE modem on their chipset or they have to have their LTE modem separate from the rest of the SoC. In the end, this means not only an extra cost (because you're basically creating more chipsets instead of just one), but it also means less efficiency. That is why Qualcomm is ahead of the game. If nVidia were able to incorporate an on-die LTE chipset then they would be able to produce their K1 at the same cost and around the same efficiency as the Qualcomm Snapdragon processors. We may not see any nVidia chipsets in smartphones in the near future, but I do think we will see more of their chipsets found in tablets and lightweight laptops because those don't necessarily need the LTE modem.

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 13:41

10. renz4 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

nvidia has been dreaming to own their own CPU for a long time. just because they got dominated by Qualcomm in smartphones it doesn't mean they will stop making tegra. for nvidia their tegra is not for smartphones or tablet only. it is much more than that. now they able to bring in their gpu desktop architecture to mobile. that's is where nvidia tegra starts to shine. just look at recent google I/O. their TK1 pretty much dominate the show.

posted on 02 Jul 2014, 15:44

2. jove39 (Posts: 1966; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Instead Nvidia should make a $100 - $150 shield console based on android and compact like Sony's PlayStationTV.

posted on 02 Jul 2014, 17:08 1

5. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

The Shield should stay portable. What is the point of having a portable processor if you are tethered to a TV like a console? The portability is what makes it so revolutionary. The k1 allows me to take console level games anywhere. Without trudging a gaming laptop around. it took, what, 6 - 7 yearsbetween the ps3 and the ps4 and the Xbox 360 and Xbox one? Considering how fast these Tegra processors are advancing, they will outpace the current consoles!

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 01:20 1

8. WinDroid (Posts: 77; Member since: 20 May 2014)

But console gamers don't like upgrading consoles that much. at least 4 years between upgrades. Mobile gaming may appeal to PC users much more who are use to it (hence why the killer feature is the pc to shield streaming). now they just need Steam for Android with Cross buy for games that are on pc and android (like sonic games/portal etc.)

posted on 03 Jul 2014, 09:33

9. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

Yes steam for android would be epic, especially if steam can knock some heads and get more PC games ported to Android

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