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Motorola is Google's defense against Samsung's Android dominance

0. phoneArena posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:02

Samsung is a huge success. The company was responsible for almost 40% of the entire smartphone market for 2012, and a large portion of that number is from Samsung’s Android devices. It’s hard to ignore Samsung, and it looks like Google can’t ignore it either. A new report says that Google is worried about Samsung’s dominance and could be using Motorola as defense against Samsung controlling the ecosystem too much...

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posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:08 19

1. nikenturd (unregistered)

With Google's hatred towards sd expansion slots and removable batteries...It would take a miracle for them to topple Samsung....

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:22 12

5. jan25 (Posts: 470; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)

The mainstream consumer doesn't care much about SD expansion or removal batteries. Marketing aside, a Moto-Google device could do better if it had enough storage and a big enough battery.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:25 4

9. Hammerfest (Posts: 384; Member since: 12 May 2012)

the moment they get the bill for going over B/W... they do/will care...

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:27 17

10. nikenturd (unregistered)

why so hypocritical about it? people dont want extra storage for their HD films, videos, pdfs and pics?.....come on now...SD slot IS a dealbreaker to many...

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 07:28 6

39. joey_sfb (Posts: 6624; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

A lot of people I know transfer their content thru SD card since Nokia time. Many use cloud but SD card give extra storage on the cheap offline, so it's a must for me too.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:53 10

17. redmd (Posts: 1371; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

well i guess im not mainstream because i want removable battery and micro sd.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 08:08 5

44. ivanprskalo (Posts: 123; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

Who says people don't care for expandable storage? That's a big fat lie. I care, and all people I know want microSD card slot in their phones.
For Gods sake that is the reason why HTC is falling down. It is obvious and noone wants to say it.
Just look what Galaxyies have and One-s and Xperias, from last year lack: Expandable storage is the answer.
For example, I have my microSD card 32GB class 10 and it is nearly 90% full, which means all my favorite music, pics and apps are in there. How on earth I'm gonna transfer that stuff to my new phone when it has 8 or 16 GB on board storage??? (And of that 16, to user available is 12!!)
It is one of the reasons why I didn't bought HTC DNA/Butterfly, Oppo Find 5, HTC One X, and many, many other phones that I like... What am I gonna do with my SD card, throw it away? Well I will, just give me a good reason to. Let's say HTC One X+ with 64GB internal is a good one, maybe HTC ONE 64GB version (if it will be available outside of damn China).
I would like if xperia ZL comes with more on-board storage, but now when I know it has microSD card slot - now I'm again interested in Xperia line. That is how it works, let's not fool ourselfs.
And - no, world is not ready yet for cloud. Not with these batteries in phones, not until whole world is covered with 4G.

Removable batteries? Well almost the same story as with microSD cards, so I better not repeat myself.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 10:19

59. jan25 (Posts: 470; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)

i never said 16 GB is the ideal amount of storage, i only said people want sufficient amount of storage and they will be happy. i am not saying more storage is bad, it's just irrelevant when comparing devices if the storage provided is enough for most users who don't store HD movies on their phones. personally i would choose a Moto-Nexus if it had a big battery and 32 gigs of storage over a Samsung with expandable memory and replaceable battery.
Samsung is dominant because they produce the most reliable Android handsets out there with a great combination of software and hardware. most people don't swap their batteries and the ones that do will be happy with a phone that lasts them throughout the day.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 17:42

74. joey_sfb (Posts: 6624; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Samsung is successful as all my mate that use it told me the same thing, Samsung is the only brand that give them what they want, biggest possible screen, with the largest possible removable battery and a SD card slot. No one i know told me that they love Samsung plastic design or they can't live without the touchwiz interface.

In fact they are willing to overlook that for above mentioned feature. Ask Samsung whether they are willing to forego SD card in the S4 design..LOL!!

Google is the same as Apple on this they sell content, books and music, content owner don't like offline storage prefer everything to be steamed. Reason why i will never buy Nexus.

Furthermore telco is putting less data into bundled not more as its threaten their core business.


posted on 26 Feb 2013, 21:55

87. Jillxz (Posts: 149; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)

I don't care for removable batteries. I will always choose a phone with a larger battery anyway. and if the phone has at least 32GB of storage , then I would not care for the sd card slot .

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:23 4

6. wendygarett (unregistered)

Yup, Google is a chicken as always, using an anti competition just to block sammy's victory :)

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:34 3

11. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4328; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

Is this for real? This is why Google acquired Motorola??
I thought all Android OEM's are fine tuned with each other. This can be big...big enough to burst Google's bubble.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:40 5

13. MataKiriSakit (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)



posted on 26 Feb 2013, 05:45 2

29. jsdechavez (Posts: 758; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

you're crazy...

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 05:04 1

22. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Put it like this. You own a restaurant named Galaxy and have a great food supplier so both of you are happy to earn money. But then the food supplier buys the lot next door and plans to open Restaurant X holding back the best meat and vegetables for itself - you are hardly happy about it anymore, are ya? So if you have any business sense you consider creating your own food supply and answer back to the threat at hand, and that's exactly what Samsung is doing.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 05:12 1

24. wendygarett (unregistered)

Because Google want moto patents to protect itself from disgusting Apple two years back then...

That's why Google is a chicken, and Apple is rotten

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 08:02 8

41. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4786; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

So this week you're anti-Apple & Google, and pro-Samsung? Would it be possible to have a schedule of who you're gonna be fanatic for for the next few weeks? That way I can prepare arguments ahead of time.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 08:10

45. ivanprskalo (Posts: 123; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

Pretty good point. Nice comparison.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 09:47

53. yuvananda (Posts: 9; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)

Google's owns Motorola but releases its mainstay Nexus devices with LG and Asus, it seems sort of a weird logic.Google's not believing in its 'HEDGE' theory afterall.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 09:49

54. yuvananda (Posts: 9; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)

Google owns Motorola but it releases its mainstay Nexus devices with LG and Asus, it seems sort of a weird logic.Google's not believing in its 'HEDGE' theory afterall.

posted on 28 Feb 2013, 16:13

102. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

This is why Google/Motorola and others companies are not including SD Card slots on their device.

"We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better."

Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google

I agree.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:21 6

2. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

I don't care if Samsung forks out Android, as long as they keep full access to play store.. would that combination even be possible?

Anyway, all I care about, is a good OS.
This can only force Google to up its game even further

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:25 17

7. nikenturd (unregistered)

SAMSUNG in-house apps suck....nobody wants them...it would be a terrible mistake for them to fully abandon the Play Store... massive exodus, myself included.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 08:19

49. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4786; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Before any anyone gets access to android, the have to sign an agreement. In basoc terms anyone can do absolutely anything they want to android, fork it, make it unrecognizable, whatever, but they just need to understand that doing so loses them access to Google's apps. If they want Google's apps, then they mustn't try to fork android. So far the only company to do this is Amazon with it's Kindle series devices, but they had enough pull to start their own app store. Apparently the skins that the OEMs put on android do not fall under this agreement. Last year Google blocked the launch of an Acer phone because they did fork android and were planning to launch them with Google's apps, which violated the agreement. Google gave them 3 choices, launch the phone as is but without Google's apps, go back to a standard version of android, or cancel the launch. They cancelled it.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:20 10

3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

All this talk about Samsung, a physical product company threatening Google, an online firm is a bit BS. Android grew up with Samsung and the crowds clearly like it's HW-SW combo, generating huge money for the search giant. Android would not be here without the Koreans.

And if Samsung threatens Google by entering the online services market? Well, Google can only blame itself, because by buying Motorola THEY upset the status quo entering Samsung's territory and becoming competitors, so you come to my house, I'll come to yours is the proper answer by any profit making company.

Actually, shortly after the GOOG/MOTO deal was done several Android smartphone makers started developing an own platform because they felt threatened, so Samsung is hardly in the wrong here.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:49 6

15. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

only nokia (with android) can stop samsung ..................lol

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:51 7

16. maccess (Posts: 742; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)

lol.. but i believe it will happen if nokia jump to android..

posted on 27 Feb 2013, 20:36

98. 14545 (Posts: 1676; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

I can say for 100% I would try a nokia android phone. Screw their WP8 devices, as I hate WP8. But I would try it with basically any other OS other than WP8.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 04:55 5

18. redmd (Posts: 1371; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

I think I have to agree with you.

posted on 26 Feb 2013, 05:04 4

21. yahoo29 (Posts: 71; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)

Yeah i think only nokia can stop sammy if nokia make android phones if nokia really make anroid it will be huge success for nokia.

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