Motorola blames third-party apps for slow performance of phones, finds salvation in Motoblur

Sanjay Jha, CEO of Motorola Mobility, found the one and only reason for the slow performance of some Moto handsets… in poorly coded third-party applications which are not filtered…
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1. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

I love HTC Sense, that's my favorite. I have played with my friends Motorola Droid X2, my other friends Motorola Atrix 4G & it's not as bad as people make them out to be. I have also played with my friends Samsung Epic 4G & that is ok also. I have never had a problem using any of those skins. They all seem intuitive & get the job done. Again I own a HTC Evo 4G with Sense & it's never failed me. All my friends seem to be very happy with their phones. The only one I have yet to play with is an LG phone. I am not sure how the LG skin works. I read that it's similar to the Samsung's Touchwiz. I just don't know!

2. CaliforniasBest unregistered

Motoblur and the locked bootloaders are the two reasons Moto will fail in the mobility wars. HTC is king and now that they are officially open with their bootloaders going forward plus now allowing devs access to Sense, they will only eat more marketshare. Combine in Samsung, LG stepping up, thats bad for Moto. Had Moto released the Droid X2 with open bootloader, and no Motoblur, I would have picked one up in a heartbeat.

7. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

I think Motorola is smarter then you give them credit. The mobile industry is a copy cat industry. Once Motorola sees they are losing market share they will unlock the bootloader. Everyone as you say is doing it, so why not Motorola if they stand to benefit from it. I have a feeling Motorola will unlock their phones. It's only a matter of time. Again I am speaking with reason, I can be completely wrong & Motorola can go the way you say. I just don't think they will shoot themselves in the foot that way. Well I hope not! Motorola makes great products & it would be a shame if they were to keep this policy going.

13. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

You apparently missed the memo where Moto announced before HTC that they'll start unlocking bootloaders. Also, the revamped MOTOBLUR is fantastic, much better than old Blur. I've been very impressed with its look and performance.

15. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Great I had an inclination that I saw that somewhere. I just couldn't pin point it. I was right about Motorola they ARE smarter then what people make them out to be. Good for Motorola!

17. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Yeah, they made the announcement right after running a poll where they asked what customers want and the customers all said "unlocked bootloaders!" There's no indication when that'll happen, but I think it's going to be soon. Might even be one of the Bionics "enhancements" they're talking about.

20. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Exactly Motorola owes its success to its fan base. I respect a corporation who takes the time & asks its fan base what they want. The people have spoken & Motorola is going to do the right thing. WOW if that Bionic has an unlocked bootloader....

3. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

*facepalm*

5. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

I've only been using a stock android nexus 1, and I've only played with blur briefly, but it seemed unnecessarily redundant to me. Not to mention I don't know anyone nor ever read about anyone that actually likes it except for poster number one here. This makes it sound like Sanjay is in denial again.

9. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

I don't have much against many skins but moto's claim is not that smart.... if people are seeking for third party apps its because their stock app aren't just enough to supply someones demands one example is Facebook the nearest desktop experience id though an app called flow that allows me to do the same things as the site (almost) that app created form an 'Amateur developer' is capable of.... if they want people not installing apps to do what their stock experience do then they should make the experience better... so people have no need to get 3RD party apps that do what their skin is supposed to do

16. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Jha isn't saying "don't download third party apps." He's saying "some of those third party apps you download use WAY more battery and memory than they should." Which is probably true. I don't know if it's the sole cause of any performance issues Motorola's phones have, but I'm not going to dismiss his claims out of hand.

6. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

motobur isnt that bad. its the bootloader BS that is shooting motorola. Of course people that actually root their phone are probably less than 20% though. Motoblur actually adds the most actual new functionality of any of the skins. It has the most business class additions to Exchange and other things as well. While sence may be the prettiest to most people, motoblur is the most useful. Touchwiz is somewhere in between.

8. cc16177

Posts: 312; Member since: May 09, 2010

I wish I could agree because I do prefer Motorola to HTC generally and the only reason I picked up my TB was to try and get locked into unlimited 4G (we'll see if that even works). But I will say that HTC Sense does a MUCH better job with my corporate email than my Droid X did... I could go into details but in general every thing I need to do with my email is easier with Sense. PS. I have no real complaints about blur, although I generally did prefer stock Android.

38. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

the enhancements for exchange support are not on the user end. they are on the control end. The company gets blackberry level control of exchange through the extended motoblur services. As far as the user experience its all pretty much the same

10. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

Motorola Had s strong concern to user security and they are partially right, maybe all they need to do is unlockable boot loader (Like SE) i think id the best of both worlds

11. conn unregistered

Currently own a htc desire s wich is brilliant and i love htc sense, not sure about motoblur, bit of a waste of time to me but like the stock gingerbread version on friends nexus s.

14. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

This is interesting news. I don't know if Jha's statements are correct, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. New Blur (on the DROID X and 2) is awesome, in its looks and performance. And Gingerbread took care of the rest. I'll check out any power/memory consumption check system Jha wants to introduce. And I do trust the man, seeing as how he's completely turned Motorola around. And Phonearena, you're being disingenuous about Motorola's financial performance again. They've cut their losses in half compared to last year.

18. zerovampire311

Posts: 42; Member since: Jun 22, 2009

I'm a sales floor rep for Verizon, and I just finished slightly less than a year with a Droid X. Motoblur is a curse. From the time I got rid of it, I tripled my battery life and everything ran worlds faster. The fact is, Motoblur is additional programming. It's extra skins, extra apps, and none of it as optimal as Motorola thinks it is. Look at simple things like flipping through your menus and sliding through the app tray. It should be fluid, with maybe 1-2 seconds of loading time (to a title screen or something of the sort) for an app. Every phone I've seen with Motoblur has choppy animations and anywhere from 2-10 seconds loading time on a basic app. The major problem is inconsistency, as has ALWAYS been with Motorola (excluding the original Droid, which was AOSP and set the standard for Android). Not to mention phones like the Devour and the Citrus, they're such a waste of market share. When you have a cheap handset like that, cheap people will buy them. Cheap people are often loud people, and that hurts Motorola. I already have customers who refuse Moto handsets because of phones like the W755 (That purple or grey flip that a million people had, and a million people exchanged 4+ times). Look at the booming success of the original Droid. All stock, no blur, no bloat. It still outperforms some of the cheaper handsets today. Get a clue Motorola, and quit trying to defend your abomination.

22. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I've also sold for Verizon and hope to again. MOTOBLUR hasn't been perfect, but for the functionality it offers I'll take it over stock Android or any other skin, especially since it's been revamped. I don't know what you're talking about on the W755. It was a great phone with relatively few defects compared to other phones of its time. I knew a lot of people who swore by it. I agree that the Citrus and Devour both suck, but that's because of their hardware limitations, and in the Devours case, simply poor design.

19. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

I've said it once and i'll say it again. Motorola makes great hardware, but horrible at software. The original DROID worked perfectly because it was stock. Then came the Devour and MOTOBLUR... and it wasn't bad, but that was defininently when they saw all the slowing down and restarts. Motorola just needs to own up to the fact that they can't make software that just works, with or without third party apps! With that said, Gingerbread had made all the difference on my DROID X. It works perfectly and not one restart yet. So maybe they're getting better at it. We'll see.

21. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

The Devours problem was more hardware related, I think. The CLIQ ran virtually the same hardware, and mine never saw all the issues that the Devour did. I do agree that Gingerblur is a lot better than Froyoblur though.

23. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

the only problem with the Devour was that it didn't sell well because it wasn't a "Droid" branded phone. the only thing the original Droid had over it was it's screen but the Devour's processor was faster than the Original Droid and it had superb build quality and a much better keyboard so i got that assuming it would be a much better phone when it got updated to the version of Android the Droid was running. wrong! they decided to keep it at 1.6 and i got a Droid 2. i'd have that phone TODAY if it had gotten the support i think it should've got.

26. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

The Devour also had a high defect rate, less memory and a smaller memory card.

28. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

oh, the forums was the cause for that, we all made up defect problems to get it replaced with a Droid 2 when it became EOL and we learned it was staying at 1.6. i had to send back like 3 to get my Droid 2. :P i had my old 16 GB SD card from my other phone so that was never an issue and i never had insufficient internal storage.

29. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Lol, I doubt that was the case. I can't remember a single Devour I sold that the customer actually kept. :P

30. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

you can look it up, lots of people did it. :p

34. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

Off topic : Is your pick from the Scott Pilgrim book?

35. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I've been wondering that too, lol. :)

36. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

yeah, it's Wallace, he's cool. :3

37. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

Haha knew it :3
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