Motorola RAZR first phone from the manufacturer offering a bootloader unlock solution

The Motorola RAZR will offer a bootloader unlock solution-the first handset from Motorola to do so- although individual carriers will be able to remove the feature which is exactly what Verizon has decided to do with its version of the phone...
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44 Comments

1. bucky

Posts: 3771; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

No bootloader unlock, no wallet unlock.

2. Ivan6479

Posts: 250; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Screwed by the carriers once again. Sounds like Verizon wants to keep everyone using their crappy bloatware. I guess for the people that want this unlocked that bad they will figure out a way.

4. zhieson

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 21, 2011

A locked boot loader doesn't mean bloatware or no root. Boot loaders just makes ROM programming and rooting a lot more difficult. But I agree. Verizon is sticking it to the people.

10. cnwwyo

Posts: 126; Member since: May 26, 2011

just a friendly warning, some retards think bloatware doesnt exist......lol, but plenty of us out here understand what it is.

17. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

this will just slow down XDA, not stall it. No bootloader lock has ever survived XDA. :)

22. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

yeah, it really isn't that big of a deal. Motorola Droids get Rooted, ROMed & OCed just like the rest of them.

39. superguy

Posts: 372; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

Yeah, but the locked bootloader prevents a custom kernel. That's where the problem is.

30. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Somehow, I suspect XDA will be releasing a root of the RAZR before one week passes from when the RAZR is available for sale (probably sooner).

3. zhieson

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 21, 2011

This is very good news. With a non-removable battery and a locked boot loader, I was almost for sure going Nexus. But if the RAZR comes out next week with the option of a manufacturer unlocked boot loader, this is awfully tempting. Hopefully the non-removable battery doesn't crap out sooner than 2 years. Seems like the iPhones have managed.

12. sgogeta4

Posts: 394; Member since: Feb 02, 2011

Except Verizon has removed the unlockable boot loader feature... so it's locked.

5. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Jesus, Verizon. Way to stick it to the customers. But I'm happy that Moto is sticking to its promise as much as possible. Please give my Atrix Ice Cream Sandwich!

6. tomast

Posts: 50; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

Why does Motorola always give Verizon there good phones and leave sprint and at&t with their mediocre ones??

7. kshell1

Posts: 1143; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

they gave sprint the photon which is a decent device

19. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

the Atrix 2 is the Bionic with HSPA+. why did AT&T not have Motorola make it with LTE i don't know but it's still a fine device. i'm sure the Photon on Sprint will get an OMAP4 equipped refresh similar to what was made with the Atrix in the near future.

20. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

probably has to do with the amount of advertising and unit sales promised by the carrier to support the device.

24. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

LTE is not ready and AT&T has an LTE device coming out that is supposed to have the best battery life to date for LTE phones. And, AT&T likes to drag their arses.

8. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

Never can someone understand the concept of carriers outside US. It's just a totally different situation in US. I never found myself at the mercy of the carriers. I can use any phone on any network here and no locked lock/unlock s**t. And considering my monthly bill (which I find ridiculously low at times), I am more than happy to get any phone without contract.

26. Lucas777

Posts: 2137; Member since: Jan 06, 2011

well we have something called cdma screwing things up…

35. PotDragon

Posts: 214; Member since: Jul 22, 2011

That is because Europe was quicker to adapt to cell technology. After WWII, the infrastructure was destroyed and the parts not quickly rewired were thirsty for cell tech and adopted it. Hence leading to a more informed and developed customer base. My European business partners still wonder how long the US will have INCOMING calls to a cell counted against your plan. Such is life. Bloatware is an Apple myth made up when an iphone was only on At&t. Anyone who don't get that is the retard and has no understanding of RAM & ROM. Period.

37. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Bloatware is an apple myth? Tell that to my Incredible 2 with 19 apps that I have never used and can't remove unless I root. Some of them run in the background, and if you kill the process they just start up after you do. Not all of them but some do. To me bloatware is something that is added to the device at the carrier's request, which uses up space and in some cases resources, and isn't easily removable. Also, if bloatware is a myth, why was it a big deal when Sprint made it possible to remove those type of apps without having to root.

38. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

didn't i have to remind you yesterday that an SD Card doesn't affect any downstream lag from your Rhapsody or whatever it was? xD

9. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

Some were already pissed about the battery, now no boot loader unlock and no gaurantee of 4.0??? Yep, that Galaxy Nexus is looking better and better. Even with that 5mp camera. Just wish they left the free tether on it, which you know will never happen.

11. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

No, the Razr is getting ICS. It's other Moto phones they're not sure about.

15. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

i can about gurantee you that the Droid Bionic, Droid 3 & the Atrix 2 will get it. the Atrix, Photon & Droid X2 might have to wait a bit longer but i'm sure it'll come to them too. the others are real iffy.

18. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

I would think such a device getting ICS is a no-brainier, but I thought the unlocked boot loader would be too considering all the users who have been begging for it. Sure, Motorola is doing their part, but why leave it up to carriers?

28. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I'm betting that Verizon refused to sell the Razr unless Moto allowed them to block the bootloader unlock function.

33. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

;( I think you're right about that for sure. VZW has got to maintain its well earned "Stick in the Mud" reputation to uphold. I know they say security is the reason for the boot loader lock, but I think that's a load!

13. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

as much as i hate to say it this is just as much on Motorola as it is on Verizon. Motorola is just getting Verizon to play the bad guys for now so it'll make them look innocent of holding this off for a longer time. there's been phones on Verizon to come out with unlocked bootloaders. all Motorola has to do is unlock them no questions asked. it doesn't seem to matter what Verizon will think when Motorola starts unlocking bootloaders with ICS updates. what difference does it make if they start on a Gingerbread device?

21. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

because it will hurt future partnerships with other phones down the lines, thats why. In america, the carrier makes all the calls, not the manufacturer.. as retarded as it may be. Moto doesnt have much say about what will be on the phones THEY will be making.

23. Thump3rDX17

Posts: 2160; Member since: May 10, 2010

you mean as a market value to newer devices? the next high-end device i can think of to be released by Motorola on Verizon after the Razr is the Droid 4 and i'm sure that'll be released in the Spring to catch Droid 2 owners. i don't see why Verizon's opinion matters when unlocking the bootloader on a new phone launched with Gingerbread and not after it gets upgraded to ICS.
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