Motorola Moto X Force (Bounce) to be launched as Droid Turbo 2 by Verizon

The Motorola Droid Turbo 2 could be released in the next several months. It looks like the new smartphone is a bit larger than the Droid Turbo from last year...
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42 Comments

1. Loveneesh

Posts: 432; Member since: Jul 14, 2015

I said and comment that same on the first leak specs of the phone.

27. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Yeah, someone called it right away. Motorola is not really interested in selling their phones which the Verizon exclusives point out.

2. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I'm still not buying the Turbo 2 name. This arrives at Verizon in December alongside The Force Awakens, and you don't think they'll make it a movie tie-in? I vote Droid Force.

3. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

Won't only be available at Verizon. That's a marketing LIE by Verizon. Look at the Droid Turbo (XT1254). The same exact phone, with the same exact bands, same exact FCC ID, same kevlar backing, same ballistic nylon -- was sold by regional CMDA/LTE carriers as the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. Buy it, put in a Verizon SIM card, runs on Verizon just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6. It was the SAME device, same phone. NOT sold at Verizon. (If it has the same FCC ID, it's the same IDENTICAL DEVICE.) Motorola also sold the SAME PHONE with no CDMA (only GSM/HSPA/LTE) internationally, called the XT1225 Moto Maxx in some markets, and XT1225 Moto Turbo in others. I own two of those. Same spec as the Droid Turbo, just no CDMA and slightly different mix of LTE bands (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17) -- which run fine on AT&T. ;) 5.2", 1440p, Snapragon 805, 3GB RAM, 3900 mAh battery, 64GB storage. So, it's a LIE it will only be available at Verizon. What they mean is the phone with the Droid name is only available at Verizon. The SAME phone will be sold many other places.

4. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

While most of your statement is true, the Moto Maxx was never "Officially" launched in the US... One could be imported to the US, at what was surly a slightly inflated price though... As for compatibility to US carrier bands I am sure your statement is correct but I can not confirm....

11. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

YES it was. It's OFFICIALLY SOLD by several regional CDMA carriers. XT1250. it's the U.S. Moto Maxx. Same FCC ID as the XT1254.

12. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

My statement is completely true. You just have not researched the model numbers. :) There were two Quark devices released under three model names: U.S.: XT1254 Droid Turbo/XT1250: same FCC ID, identical device. CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE International: XT1225 Moto Maxx, XT1225 Moto Turbo: same FCC ID, identical device. GSM/HSPA/LTE. THIS one was not release in the U.S. but the XT1250 was. The XT1250 has LTE band 13 just as the XT1254, because it's the same device. The XT1225 does not.

23. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Please, do tell me whom these "several regional CDMA carriers" are... Because even the US Motorola website wont sell you a Moto Maxx... So please do enlighten us....

28. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Yeah, this was a phone I was very interested in getting but it wasn't readily available. I considered import and just eventually said "fk it" since obviously Motorola wasn't interested in earning money from me as a customer. The Verizon exclusives do severe harm to their business, looks like the trend continues.

32. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I wonder if there's an expiration date on the Verizon-Lucasfilm-Motorola Droid deal. Verizon still loves it, as they have an in-house exclusive brand. Motorola obviously wants to get away from carriers altogether.

37. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

A couple of years ago Verizon put out a statement that Motorola would be the provider of Droid branded phones for the foreseeable future... How long the "foreseeable future" is would be anybody's guess, I assume that it means until the branding ceases to be profitable to VZW.... As for the Droid Branding it's self I think that every few years there are negations between Verizon and the holder of the Droid branding (At the moment that would be Disney as Lucas Films sold out to them) and again it would be a case of profitability I'm certain....

42. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

As a sidenote, one of my favorite stories from this strange industry is how Steve Jobs' estate ended up partly owning the Droid brand. He was a shareholder in Pixar, which is owned by Disney, which now owns Lucasfilm and therefore the Droid trademark.

34. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

Be glad to. Sprocket Wireless is one. Can't give you links because phone arena doesn't allow it. Use Google. I can list a dozen more, but no need. These are NOT MVNOs, they are smaller regional CDMA/LTE carriers in areas like Michigan, Texas, Wisconsin, Alaska... But you should really try Google. Type in XT1250 regional carriers. See how easy that is?

38. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

I cant Google, Im at work where Google is blocked. And yes you can post the links up, PA doesn't allow links to be posted in your first 10 posts. Ill show you: www.google.com www.wikipedia.org www.droid-life.com But sure go ahead list away....

7. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

And how many non-Verizon US customers are going to jump through all those hoops? Or even know the phone exists for sale overseas? Marketing is everything, dontcha know.

15. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

I bought two of the XT1225. It's the international version of the Droid Turbo XT1254. LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. I researched so I knew it was basically the 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6. it's the phone Google should have released as the gen6 Nexus phone last year. 5.2", 1440p, Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAm, 64 GB storage. Ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath. Running them both on AT&T. Rooted, TWRP recovery, custom 5.1.1 ROM. If I can do that, anyone can.

21. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Sorry, you lost me at "international version," and completely lost me at "rooted." 99% of customers would do neither of those things. It may sound simple to you, but most people looking for a new phone just poke around Amazon, walk into Best Buy or Costco or a Verizon or AT&T store. If it's not that simple to find, then for all intents and purposes... It was only released in the US for Verizon.

25. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

For Verizon as the Droid Turbo.... No Moto Maxx in the US of A....

35. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

It was NOT only for Verizon. The EXACT SAME DEVICE under the name Moto Maxx XT1250 (same FCC ID) was also released in the U.S. for regional CDMA carriers. Many people bought it and put in Verizon SIM cards and are running them on Verizon. Did I lose you there too? Only the Droid name is exclusive, not the device. Lazy tech journalists don't understand that.

39. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Sprocket Wireless? Let's see. Oklahoma! Great! Regional carriers means most people will never see nor hear of it. Tell me how people across the country on AT&T, T-Mo, Sprint, hell I'll even throw in MetroPCS and Cricket, will have found a Moto Maxx without knowing that it already exists somewhere out there. How was the device going to find THEM?

29. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

That is a very wrong statement about this being the equivalent of a Nexus 6, just look at the bands you've listed in your post and compare that to what the Nexus 6 supports. Beyond that, good that you've rooted/found ROMs for them, I'm surprised there's any. On the flipside that is a easy thing to do with the Nexus devices.

5. DROIDX0430

Posts: 469; Member since: Nov 24, 2010

Can't wait!

36. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

it is the equivalent to the Nexus 6 in the hardware specs. What about that do you not understand? it's also 5.2" and better size. yes, the LTE bands are slightly different than the Nexus 6.

6. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Still very curious about this device, but between the bloatware and waiting on them to approve OS updates, I might be done buying from Verizon. The X Pure and Nexus 5 look mighty tempting.

16. ChazzMatt

Posts: 106; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

Wait for the Moto X Force. Buy it instead. Will be the "international" version of this phone, but should have AT&T and T-mobile bands. No bloatware.

22. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Nice idea, but I'm not leaving Verizon. So it's either a bloated Turbo 2, a Moto X Pure, or a Nexus 5 for me. I might even entertain the Maxx 2 (X Play) if it can beat the battery life and speed of my Droid Maxx.

8. det_bradlee

Posts: 162; Member since: Jun 08, 2015

Fvck you Verizon!

9. c.hack

Posts: 614; Member since: Dec 09, 2009

Another crap-ugly droid with Lenovo spyware and Verizon crapware installed at no cost. How much are they paying customers to use this junkphone?

10. PhoneArenaFan

Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 10, 2015

As an owner of the previous versions of the Moto X (I love the price / performance, clean OS, fast updates. These are rare for phones compatible with Verizon) and so I immediately placed an order for the new Moto X. Then I started reading articles about this new Moto X Force and I was sick to my stomach. A version of the Moto X with an indestructible screen, bigger battery and even faster processor was very attractive even at a premium price. But now that I find out it's a Verizon branded device, I can sleep much easier. This device, while nice, will be absolutely loaded with tons of bloatware and the updates will be terrible. Personally, I wouldn't recommend this device over the Moto X Pure Edition.

13. talon95

Posts: 998; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

Who wants to by anything with an 810 at this point when the 820 will hopefully be so much better and coming so soon after launch?
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