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Microsoft "surprised" by Google ditching Exchange, suggests Outlook.com

0. phoneArena posted on 17 Dec 2012, 19:38

Last week, Google announced that it was going to drop support of Microsoft's Exchange ActiveSync through Google Sync for new free users. The option will continue for those who already have Google Sync set up, and it will continue as an option for paid Google Apps users, who are more likely enterprise users, and more likely to need Exchange support. Google is moving away from Microsoft's proprietary system in favor of open standards like IMAP, CalDAV, and CardDAV. All of that sounds like a very Googley way to do things, but somehow Microsoft was still "surprised" by the move, and has no suggestions for users other than to switch to Outlook.com for their e-mail...

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posted on 17 Dec 2012, 20:57 10

13. blingblingthing (Posts: 576; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

Why are people siding with Microsoft. If they are using the closed system, they should ensure its users can access them. What next, blame Google for bbm not on android?

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 00:17 1

33. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

what posting ur private data for advertisment is ok Google techinique over paid service of MS providing privacy well u are blind but the Word FREE
for corporate user Google is a bad decision

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 20:58 6

14. shahulvm (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)

To put in simple terms their philosophies are like this :

Apple :

Their Stmt : I have "really nice, revolutionary ground for you to play".
In Reality : It has a beautiful fence, yet its not a spectacular playground
For the consumers : Please pay the premium price, as the fence looks premium (not the ground though)

MS :

Their Stmt : Live tile, smoked by speed etc etc..
In Reality : Fence is ok and the ground is ok
For the consumers : you get what you see, nothing much fancy about it. MS capabilities are limited

Google :

Their stmt : We have a nice ground for to play and it is FREE..
In Reality : Secretly, we record everything you do and sell it for a price
For the consumers : Enjoy the warmth of free ground, just let go of your privacy. Thatsall google asks of U

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 23:38 4

30. joey_sfb (Posts: 6547; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Microsoft and Apple are also capturing user data to sell for a profits. Microsoft and Apple would never do a full disclosure because they are guility of the exact same thing. They hide this fact and play innocent. Charge the user and then violent their privacy.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 00:43

37. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

nice very limited view....Microsoft+Apple are trying do the same but they are incapable ;)

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 21:06 2

15. shahulvm (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)

Nobody, I mean nobody in this world will give something free without benefiting much more than their offering. Android is open source (not its apps) for a purpose and time will tell what that purpose is!!

Until then enjoy.....

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 21:26 4

23. MeoCao (unregistered)

You know what? SS, Sony, HTC.. and all big OEM have the source code and ability to develop forked versions of Android, way better than Amzon did.

The reason they stay with Google is Google does the job much better and nothing else.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 13:17

67. blingblingthing (Posts: 576; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

The catch is Android pushes Google services. Gmail, Google Talk, Google Now, the Play Store.

All wonderful services, I gladly accept them.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 21:06 4

16. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)

Wow, somehow it always ends up being microsofts fault. Ive been on hotmail since god knows when and still have the @msn.com adress and couldnt be happier... Most people here dont know it but there is life outsode of google...

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 21:50 1

25. MeoCao (unregistered)

Haha, MS ia at fault b-c they use proprietary technology and build a closed ecosystem.

But if you happy with MS service so why not. It's great that we have choice now thanks to open source movement.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 22:47 3

28. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Proprietary? How so? I can purchase a AMD/Intel processor with a AMD or Nvidia GPU and install any OS/NOS to my hearts desire. So how is that proprietary? I have a winbox that is uses thunderbird, firefox, and open office. I don't see proprietary?

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 22:57 1

29. MeoCao (unregistered)

WP, Windows, ActiveSync, Office.... are those proprietary?

We are talking about MS vs Google here my firiend.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 00:24

34. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

You mean something Microsoft developed on its own and has been the standard for almost as long as PCs have been popular? Many companies try to emulate Microsoft's successful programs, some.better than others, but it is difficult to displace such an embedded standard, especially in the corporate world. I'm in favor of open-source programs as alternatives, especially if they cause the standards to progress, but there has to be the reliability and sustainability of that alternative otherwise it's just a folly used for a little while until the novelty wears out and the user returns to using the standard. I've tried Open Office, Google Docs, (as well as apple's crummy attempts), etc, none compare to the comprehensive setup and broad.functionality (and reliability and acceptance) of Microsoft Office. Same with IE versus Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Skyfire, etc. That said, there isn't anything that entrenched yet in the mobile sphere, and there likely won't be anytime soon, as it is too fickle and no company has figured out the semi-perfect formula. Just looking at RIM and Palm/HP proves that.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 01:37 1

40. MeoCao (unregistered)

No1 is trying to displace anything here, Google stopped supporting ActiveSync b-c they don't want to pay MS for it.

Or you mean Google must support MS and pay MS at the same time for that support?

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 22:34 2

26. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Well there is life outside free email. I have my own domain and do no have to deal with viagra plugs and nigerian scam. There is life outside both google, ms, and ios. There is thunderbird for outlook and firefox for browser, open office for ms office, and we can go on till morning.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 21:33 3

24. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

you think microsoft isnt selling your information? My Gmail account is staying with Google.

posted on 17 Dec 2012, 22:42 1

27. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

well everyone sells your information your isp provider, supermarket rewards card program, credit card company, debit card company, and so on and so forth.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 00:11 2

32. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

and yes open means our data will be open for adversisment on google bravo MS is still better in that prespective

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 00:42 1

36. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

microsoft better stop trying to bash google and android in their campaigns or they will be "surprised" by what else will happen if they do!

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 01:10 4

38. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

"Windows Phone users have been somewhat upset with Google for doing this"

ROTFLMFAO... No we haven't.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 04:50 1

44. Tones (Posts: 74; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

You speak for every windows phone user? Well there isnt that many of you i suppose.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 05:39 1

48. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)

True a lot of us using outlook so f scroogle

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 01:36 3

39. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

I've tried those so called "open standards" found within android, gmail, IMAP, Firefox, Linux, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, GIMP etc.. and quite frankly they suck.

Before making these blind assumptions, please take a second to realize that we didn't ask for these half-assed open standards to be shoved down our throats'. Most of us know that free doesn't necessarily mean better, which is why we choose to pay more for the superior product eg. MS Office 2010 Professional, Outlook 2010, MS Exchange Server, Windows, Photoshop CS6, MacOS, Garage Band. The list goes on and on

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 01:50 2

41. MeoCao (unregistered)

I use Yahoo mail and I'm fine with it, I also used OutLook in PC and don't see anything different.

And if MS think their service is superior they can make an app for Android and charge for the service, but frankly I don't believe many consumers will use it.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 05:49

49. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)

Don't get scroogled jump to Outlook let scroogle suffer from their own decisions

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 08:59

52. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

You don't want anyone borrowing or using your stuff without your consent. You worked hard to create something. You should reap the rewards for it. If you can make something better with your own idea, go ahead. Go get a job! Earn some money, instead of living on free Google stamps, right MeoCao?

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 09:19

53. MeoCao (unregistered)

You mean I'm jobless and live on food stamps? Say what you want to say straight and don't be so complicated.

When you can't reason you will turn to insults and personal attacks, right?

MS will lose the war to Google and will be marginalised LOL

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 09:37

54. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Who's warring? Look at all your Fandroid friends posts, including your own. Jumping up and down like wild animals over this PA news.

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 09:41

55. MeoCao (unregistered)

So what, I have plenty of time, envious?

posted on 18 Dec 2012, 09:46

56. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Annoyed more than anything.

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