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Microsoft reports higher profit margin than Apple, Google or Samsung, phone division hauls in $546 million

0. phoneArena posted on 25 Jan 2013, 02:45

Rumors about Microsoft's demise and "the end of the PC era," as Steve Jobs used to put it, seem to be greatly exaggerated, judging by the company's Q4 results...

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posted on 25 Jan 2013, 02:50 37

1. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

end of PC era ? LOL, not untill 100 years...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:03 1

5. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

with bribing governments:
goo [dot] gl/FNz9f
bribing producers and manufacturers:
goo [dot] gl/EYqOl

is very easy to have high margins...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:44 13

10. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)

exactly, I highly doubt there will ever be a day that people only own smartphones & tablets.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:44 2

25. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

of course, but it is not important, important is this:
1) everyone does his work in 90 % with his mobile device at homes
2) PC is going to be just a truck - sometimes when my tablet doesnt handle my problem (very rarely, just HTPC or torrents...soon almost nothing for me)

so there are no big revenues in PC anymore (apps, ads, web services etc.)

this is important

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:52 10

28. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)

PC's are not made for facebook addicts or for casual gamer, you hardly use pc? that means you hardly work...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 06:04 1

29. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

you probably can not read....read "at homes"


posted on 25 Jan 2013, 08:01 8

41. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 281; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)

90% of people do their work on a mobile device at home? What kind of work do these people do? I couldn't think of a single profession that would not want a PC for home use.
*English majors need a good keyboard and screen along with full programs, Engineers need graphics and processing power, etc

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 09:03 4

46. ZetanAlaz (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)

But there are guys like me who still find PC is very useful.
I work around with design thingy programs like corel/adobe.
I know about adobe mobile, but it's not really enough for me, no no no no.
Thank you bye.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 06:36 4

31. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)

There absolutely will be a day when people only own smartphones and tablets. Microsoft absolutely has the right idea in trying to pack a full fledged computer into a tab because it is literally the future. I say this because people said the same thing about wanting GPS, HTML browsing, and MP3 player in their smartphone. It will happen and these companies need to be sure they are on the correct side of things.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 06:59 5

34. cdgoin (Posts: 570; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)

The standard Keyboard/Mouse/Screen layout has been developed for years, and won't go anywhere for a long time because you can not get the speed or comfort or accuracy out of tablet or phone.

Think about it.. how will engineers, artists, etc.. who need CAD and 3D capability.. going to do that on a small tablet?

Ergonomically how do you figure that out as well..?

I have 3 large screen and need a mouse for accuracy.. there is NO WAY the work I do can be replaced by a tablet or phone.

What about data entry.. Know anyone that can get 100 WPM on a tablet? Didn't think so.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 09:31

47. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Actually artists do not use mouse for work as the mouse is really inaccurate, I've asked if a mouse was good, and many told me that if I own a PC I should get a drawing tablet instead because everything is more accurate and faster to do.

Now what's missing in tablets is the powerful apps, but you can mirror your work via HDMI to a big screen and draw from a tablet

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 07:43 1

39. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

With ya on that, though I think you have well more than a decade before you see PC's in homes really wane. Sales may slump a bit, but that's going to be more because today's middle of the road PC build is more than powerful enough for day to day usage for a long time to come. Only those with broken PCs or heavy gamers will continue to upgrade regularly. It's not like it used to be where a casual/business user would actually see big benefits to upgrading to the latest.

We passed the line of "need to upgrade for a much better day to day experience" a long time ago.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 08:24 3

43. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I actually disagree. I see the future computing landscape where people's phones are also their computers, and they connect to peripherals wirelessly, over NFC more so than DLNA. It's already begun with Bluetooth everything and more peripherals coming for NFC, and with Windows Phone 8 sharing its kernel with its big computing sibling Windows 8. Cables will be a thing if the past except for secure transmissions, and folks will eventually spend about the same as they are now for an entire computer or laptop setup for everything to be wirelessly connected, and as that is saturated, prices will go down.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 08:44

44. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

As long as there are "real developers" who hate CLOUD ... PC era will never end.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:42 5

23. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)

its just a delusional dream of apple

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 02:54 12

2. aries.phills (Posts: 140; Member since: 17 May 2011)

The old horse still got some juice in the inside.
Lol! Abdane you are so right.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 02:56 9

3. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

wow, Halo 4 was the best selling game of the franchise? very nice 343, very nice. Halo 4 is a very good game and what makes it even better was that it was surprisingly better than expected. o:

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:24 3

9. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

is it really that good?? i been wanting to play it for awhile now... but you see my avatar loool

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 07:44 1

40. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Yea, I'm borrowing it from a friend. Its surprisingly good. Crazy Cortana is much more entertaining. lol

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 11:29

50. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

it is trust me.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:00 8

4. wendygarett (unregistered)

Funny, when Apple declare lower profits margin, android fans doesn't appreciate but keep shouting game over towards Apple

and now Microsoft declare higher profits margin, android fans will shout ms is a greedy company, I swear that!!!

profit margin up? Shout greedy... Profit margin down? Shout game over... Typical double standard...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:13 10

6. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

and how did you know that ? i don't see any comments here of android fans that say anything about Microsoft that they are greedy, you just want to make yourself feel better that android fans bash everybody not just apple, LMAO, i'm happy for Microsoft; ANDROID FAN ! don't combine again please...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 03:17

7. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

deal with truth.....bribing governments, manufacturers, sellers:
goo [dot] gl/FNz9f
Microsoft is a real evil here ;)

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 04:06 2

12. darkkjedii (Posts: 24913; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

You're right Wendy. Exactly right.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 04:33 5

14. joey_sfb (Posts: 6600; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

I using Apple, Microsoft and Google services. I am currently in favour of Google as they do give value added service without me paying them a single cent. Microsoft is also great with the Xbox360 games, Halo series. Apple i like their design but that wearing out...

A phone is just a phone. I don't think there a need to be defensive, which your above posting made out to be.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:48 1

27. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I'm almost in the same boat as you.

I really like Windows desktop OS....currently using 7 and XP. I really like Android phones. I like Apple....stock...dont have any anymore but I hope it can do down enough where I can get back in on the extreme low side.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 04:58 3

16. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Either that or is all in your delusional head... A there were not such comments in the thread made by Android fans.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:36

20. wendygarett (unregistered)

See comments #15

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:41 3

22. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Buzz!! Wrong. No where in that post does it says MS is greedy.

Try again...

Maybe since you suggested it...it will happen....eventually. Usually...its best to wait til it actually happens first?

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 05:36 5

19. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Well wendy....I'm waiting for the posts from Android fans saying MS is greedy....

Still waiting.....this is an example of creating bias, faboyism where none exsist. Nice try tho.....I think?

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