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Lumia 1020 beats the iPhone 5s and Galaxy S4 by a mile in our blind camera comparison

0. phoneArena posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:07

And so it is time for us to reveal the smartphones that took part in the blind camera comparison that we published last week. The idea was, basically, to come up with a camera contest that factors out all possible bias one might have towards a certain brand, model or OS. By the looks of it, we've succeeded in removing bias from the equation as no one ever knew which model hid behind which phone number, and so everyone voted for the images they think are better, rather than for their favorite phone...

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posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:09 36

1. Vireak (unregistered)


No surprises there.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:09 13

62. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


It isn't, the 1020 has a great camera. But they need to do the test with better control, because some of the pictures were just taken at different times, at slightly different angles and some even had motion blur. They need to do it with a tripod that puts all the camera in the same situation and reduces human error as much as possible. And also name the items in the chart differently, for some reason I kept reading "Phone 5" as iPhone 5 in this article and the poll (automatic now I guess). Still, hopefully this becomes a thing, where maybe they do this once a month and average scores as time goes on.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 12:21 12

91. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


err yeah lame escuse so what the point of OIS in 1020 then if you need tripod O_o its not a 2013 tech it was there for 10++ years in camera why you want to do that when u wont hold u precious iphone in tripod every time you take a picture

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 12:48 4

104. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


I think they should have a high end DLSR in these comparisons as a reference photo.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 14:12 7

119. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


do you always take a tripod with you ?

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 15:41 1

138. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


That only makes senses for INDOOR shots.

The ceteris paribus condition doesn't work as well for outdoor shots.

posted on 08 Oct 2013, 14:13

175. ghaniosman (Posts: 78; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)


adding lumia 1020 in the comparison was itself bias in the 1st place, since its a camera with a smart?phone in it and others were smartphones with cameras in them

posted on 09 Oct 2013, 13:06

180. venimus (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


Really? Is this all you could come to?

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 22:16

191. ShenAlJoker (Posts: 113; Member since: 19 Jul 2013)


oh shut up! lumia rules!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:09 24

63. ianbbaa (Posts: 332; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)


I am not surprised that people are not blind...but probably someone in iPhone Arena will be fired to leave S4 in front of iP5s

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 20:30 2

150. htainlintha (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


Dude, SGS4 is a clear winner in compared to ip5S, do you think phone can go over it? overall, SGS4 rocks with great camera,slimmer, removeable battery and expandable micro SD,13MP shooter with focal length 2.2 aprture(same with ip5S)but bigger megapixel provide more details,ip5S high-pixel density is as fail as HTC one, SGS4 has stereo recording and has capability of recording slow-motion at 1/2,1/4 and 1/8 speed. LOL! why do you think ip5s's crappy camera is better than SGS4?
youtube.com/watch?v=DXddteoA-Ms
youtube.com/watch?v=_p6fYDPdQ7E

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:31 10

75. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Quite true. And in other news, the L1020 will be a sales fail in the U.S. courtesy of Nokia's carrier exclusive with AT&T. Hopefully MS ends the stupidity of carrier exclusives.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 12:59 2

106. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Its Microsoft, don't expect anything from them.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 14:23 1

121. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Ordinarily, I wouldn't hold out hope for MS. But they don't normally do things that are against their self interest (increasing the market penetration of WP, in this circumstance). The carrier exclusive was a plan to fail and the only justification was the marketing $ that AT&T was going to put on the table. MS doesn't need AT&T's marketing $, so I am hopeful the carrier exclusives are over with.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 09:55

192. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


Elop probably chose to go with the AT&T exclusive because he was worried that his chair in the corner office in Redmond might be getting cold. A 1020 hit would've made a sale of D&S to MSFT less likely, or at a much higher purchase price...neither would've made his handlers at MSFT very happy.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:56 10

83. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


true no phone can't even compare with 1020, i was telling you guys that Phone-5 is Nokia Lumia 1020.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 16:02 3

140. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


It was pretty obvious it was going to win, its about as good as a mid range point and shoot.

posted on 08 Oct 2013, 01:18

163. Trex95 (Posts: 1118; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Seems that you forget about PV 808 still better than Lumia 1020 in camera dept.

posted on 08 Oct 2013, 07:48 2

169. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


I don't mind as longest phone is Nokia.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 14:19 3

120. Immolate (Posts: 310; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)


I'm sure this has been said a thousand times already, but why was the Z1 left out? If you didn't have the phone in time, you maybe should have waited, or now that you do have it, I'd do another comparison. That said, I've looked at Z1/1020 comparisons extensively and, as a result, I bought the 1020. Should be here today.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 14:34

124. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


credit where it is due, but it is still pretty strange. I remember ther was an LG G2 comparison done with other phones a while back (including the Lumia 1020) which wasnt a blidn comparison, and the G2 was way above the lumia.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 15:36 1

137. hmmm... (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)


I remember those comparism. There was no verdict for that, so how was the g2's camera better than 1020?. The G2 actually fail to even focus on the bowl of chips on the table.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:09 13

2. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


What? No Xperia Z1? Why PA why?!

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:22 23

21. brar.arsh (Posts: 202; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


This test was for the Second position.
Z1 has been kept aside and already crowned the BEST. :p

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:42 34

34. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)


Keep on dreaming. Anyone who is not an idiot will realise that a 1/2.3" sensor cannot even come close to a 1/1.5" one. That is as long as they are similar in other aspects, which they are. And sony always messes their cameras (and screens) up. Xperia Z's camera was terrible, and I hoped sony will finally cure that with a bigger sensor, but no. Z1 is no better than S4. Read some reviews and you'll know.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 10:56 13

47. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


It seems you have never hold Z in your hands or you won't post such a bullsh*t. Z problem was its software and after first update it became great but the problem of people like you is that you trust in whatever some biased sites say.
and about Z1. its quality came near 1020 with half of its resolution and smaller sensor.
So i think its you who must read some reviews.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:04 4

55. ianbbaa (Posts: 332; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)


Every company sometimes release a bad firmware - regarding SONY, when i was SONY customer - i was always reading "update will solve it" - never did, so SONYs problem is not software, but all the time - a bad made phone. So, forget SONY for some time...do not mention Z1 - as already we know Z2 is on the way that should polish the bugs of Z1 (Z1 is mentioned to polish bugs of original Z) - so FORGET FIRMWARE UPDATE!!!!! SONY needs every half a year a SAME flagship...

P.S: Samsung also messed totally JB update of original NOTE1 that i had to sell it. No company is perfect, but at least my NOTE1 worked fine since GB through ICS untill JB...SONYs phone usually do not work from "out of the box".

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:09 3

61. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


But i never had such a problem.
maybe you were unlucky with your Sony!

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:07 4

58. raunak (Posts: 507; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)


It's quality improved only a little bit with update. It's still not as good as other top end phones. And NO, Z1 never came close to 1020, never.
Those "comparisons" that surfaced when Z1 was launched were from sony themselves, and were extremely biased. All the reviews that came after that have said what I just said.

posted on 07 Oct 2013, 11:17 1

68. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


LOL, they were biased?
i suggest you look at the quality of Z1 camera through different firmwares.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/05/sony-xperia-z1-photo-samples-through-different-firmware-revisions/
and its shots at night
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/13/xperia-z1-low-light-snaps-look-great/

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