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LG hints it is not working on a Nexus 5, done with stock Androids

0. phoneArena posted on 28 May 2013, 03:00

"The Nexus 4 was a great success despite the production problems for us and Google. However we do not need such a marketing success again." These are the exact words of LG's European VP for mobile during an interview...

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posted on 28 May 2013, 03:05 8

1. WakaFlakaD (Posts: 526; Member since: 30 Apr 2011)

Cool rumor. We will wait for the next announcement of the next Nexus

posted on 28 May 2013, 14:29

34. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)

It is the Mystery of the year!

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:10 16

2. cGmC11 (Posts: 151; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)

Go HTC!!!... go,go,go!!!

posted on 28 May 2013, 09:55 6

28. NickPeters (Posts: 74; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

Somehow... I actually find HTC the right company to produce the next Nexus device. Stop it right there with the fanboyism because it's not the reason why! :)
The only reason I find HTC appropriate for the job is the fact that HTC is going to the exact same way that Google wants it's Nexus products to be:


Other than that, any company is welcome to make a Nexus device. I'll be glad to see some new company doing that. Samsung did it twice, HTC and LG once and I'm talking only about smartphones, of course. It'll be nice to see Motorola, for example, to make a new one.

posted on 28 May 2013, 14:30

35. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)

Hope so. Lets see.
I think Motorola X will be next Nexus

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:26 1

3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Haha, look at the staged chattery, so obviously a controlled leak.

I'd LOVE an affordable cameraphone, willing to pay an extra to the Nexus 4 price.

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:51 1

11. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4292; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

There's something really funny about the conversation.
Check out the previous article about the nexus phone and you'll see Vic Gundotra commented similarly all the time, something about the 'insanely good camera' and 'just you wait and see'.
And there's only two of them doing the chatting, always.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:28 1

21. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Which is promising that these are early ads for an affordable cameraphone. For me phone HW passed the level of performance to care about the extra benchmark scores, it's how they deal with drainage and how good is the camera. The S4 is quite good but OIS, higher MP count for 808-like lossless zooming, low-light performance, there's room for improvement.

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:27 4

4. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)

Quad Core Intel Nexus 5 with:
2.5ghz quad core baytrail intel cpu with hyperthreading
Intel and google optimized high end amplifier to maximize battery life
Power Vr SGX544MP2 16 core GPU
3Gb DDR3 Ram
FHD Oled display
32/64gb storage
4000 mah battery
Wolfson DAC
Custom front facing stereo speakers made by Bower & Wilkins
Dual headphone out amplifer made by Texas Insturments
LTE Advanced radio made by Intel
5Mp front facing camera with wide angle lens
16Mp custom back camera made and optimized by Nikon
Android 5.0 with improved x86 support, google apps now native x86
Body made out of reinforced metal with unscratched layer that doesn't degrade
Sapphire Glass covering front
Intel and nexus logo on the back that have glow effect that has color control/effects
Water proof/dust proof design

Price: around $400 unlocked

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:29 7

5. lhtbinh1909 (Posts: 89; Member since: 02 Apr 2013)

just in your dream

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:29 1

6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

544MP2? Why?

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:37 1

7. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)

The exynos 5 gpu is only 3 cores. a 16 core power vr gpu would be 533% faster than the gpu in the exynos 5.

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:57 5

12. hung2900 (Posts: 965; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

MPx = x cores
Exynos 5410's GPU is PowerVR SGX544MP3
and SGX5xx supports 8 cores in maximum (theorectically), but normally only 4 cores.
"8 cores GPU" advertisement was innitially a scam from Allwinner (A31 SoC), following by Rockchip 3188 and MTK6589. All of them are SGX544MP2

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:48 1

17. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Rigth for most.
But MTK6589 uses SGX544MP (or MP1 if you prefer).
So as much they can claim 4 cores (SIMDs).
For the record: each SGX544 core has 4 SIMDs
So the Exynos 5410's PowerVR SGX544MP3 would have 12 of them.

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:42 2

9. rahulz (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)

Not likely to happen but why not dreaming right?

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:37 7

16. kvk066 (Posts: 18; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)

why $400?? Why not free for whole family and friends....dude...dreams can come for free....dreams can be unlimited....you have the freedom to dream whatever you want....

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:53

18. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

You don't have a clue of SoCs, do you?
1) Power Vr SGX544MP2 is 2 cores as hung2900 said
2) BayTrail uses Intel Gen 7, not PowerVr (the same they use in Intel HD Graphics 4000/3000/2500)
3) BayTrail most likely won't have hyperthreading as it has already 4 cores.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:04

19. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)

Silvermont baytrail has no confirmed gpu, the atoms use power vr that is all thats confirmed. You have no clue what your talking about. Silvernont baytrails are based on atom phone cpus but they also have 4 cores they are not based of the desktop chips.

Change is coming later this year you will see headlines everywhere about intel making a15 look like a joke and then the slow death of arm begins. Next stop for intel on phones is 15nm too, arm will be lucky to have mass produced chips on 20nm by the end of 2014. Intel at its current rate will have better battery life than arm on their next series in mobile chips.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:37

24. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1543; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Intel has yet to confirm, but there was a leak about Atoms using Geng 7 quite some time ago. It's everything but officially confirmed:
For the rest: we'll see when it comes. TSMC is supposed to move to 20nm this year alreay. So the lead Intel has may prove itself short.
I have little doubts that Silvermont will be more powerful than A15, but we can confirm that when it comes. Talking abot it now just shows foolishness.
And from Anandtech
What we know about Baytrail is that it will be a quad-core implementation of Silvermont paired with Intel’s own Gen 7 graphics.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:28

22. Meleagru (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)

It seems possible, except the price. For that money, it will be literally fly off the shelves. And which manufacturer would dare create such a beast of a phone at that price ?

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:39 4

8. rahulz (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)

Yeah nexus 4 was a great success..
i wonder who's making the next nexus? Samsung, HTC,LG they all made nexus devices i think its time for Sony to make one
they deserve a chance...
either way looking forward to see next nexus with android 5.0
pretty sure it will be one of the top devices of the year

posted on 28 May 2013, 03:42 1

10. uchihakurtz (Posts: 402; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

I hope the next Nexus will come from Sony or at least Samsung. The LG name made me hesitant on the Nexus 4... No offence but I've seen people complaining about the build quality :P

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:09 2

14. Klamba92 (Posts: 210; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)

What issues are there with the build quality, because I have one and have come across none so far? Also I think Sony or Motorola deserve a chance as both companies have been sticking to Google's design language with the on screen keys etc!

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:17 1

20. uchihakurtz (Posts: 402; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

There a few "unlucky" people that got a faulty one according to this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048027

As of other OEMs, I really hope Sony gets the next one, I'd love to see Motorola too but unfortunately they don't have a service center around here thus I'm rooting for Sony or any other OEMs, aside from LG, no offence.

posted on 29 May 2013, 02:28

41. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)

You mean Samsung's build quality is better than LG's?

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:01 1

13. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)

releasing phones with stock
Android, like Samsung did with the
S4 at Google I/O , has no value for
the company, as it needs to set
itself apart through its own skin
and other means."

Wait....their UI looks very similar to touchwiz...be it now or before the nature UX it looked and felt same...from icons to similarly themed wallpapers....

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:21 2

15. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 267; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)

But anything other than stock Android is a downgrade, LG.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:58 1

23. BesnikRrustemi (Posts: 44; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)

My wishlist for the next nexus is:
Better Cameras: 8mpx is enough but better low-light shooting,image & video stabilization & 1080p front facing camera
Snapdragon 600 ( s4 pro is fast enough but 600 just for OpenGL ES 3.0 and less power consumption)
32GB storage variant
1080p Super IPS display
I know that the current price cannot cover all these specs but i would pay 100-150$ more for this one

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:44

25. papss (unregistered)

To me LG made the best N phone so far. I hope they are reconsidering...also shouldn't someone be working on one already?

posted on 28 May 2013, 07:17

26. saenaedewe (Posts: 72; Member since: 01 May 2013)

I think this time NEXUS phone won't be coming only from one certain manufacturer.
This time every flagship phone from each manufacturer could be the NEXUS phone.
All they need to do is just run stock Android on their flagship phone, just like what SAMSUNG did with its 'Galaxy S4' and what will HTC do with its 'ONE' (rumored).
Plus there will be a stock Android Motorola Phone (the X phone)...
It's Just my thoughts... :)

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