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Judge in U.K. says HTC doesn't infringe on Apple patents, calls three Apple patents invalid

0. phoneArena posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:08

It's becoming increasingly apparent that one court's infringement is another court's non-event; in the U.K., Judge Christopher Floyd ruled that HTC did not infringe on four Apple patents, saying that three of the patents were invalid...

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posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:06

95. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)

actually, i wouldn't blame Koh for this. She had ruled agaisnt Apple but she was asked by her bosses to "reconsider".

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:08 10

12. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

very good news.... take that i?rap.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:10 10

14. LionStone (Posts: 843; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)

That's right Apple...SUCK IT!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:10 13

15. jove39 (Posts: 1967; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Judge Lucy should talk to british counterpart :)

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:15 4

16. techman01 (Posts: 22; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)

Im glad that apple didnt win this one there are lossing the smartphone battle based on recent chart i would give a link but i dont remember the site but feel free to look it up and you will see but back to the lawsuits these patents should have not have been granted in the first place there there to only help apple but in the end android will win and im not a fandroid or a troll i just think this patents are pretty stupid htc didnt copy neither did samsung do u notice apple sueing the low competition no they dont do they copy patents yes see what apple is doing trying to elimenate competition so they will win the competition but in the end they wont win because it makes them look like the cant coop with competion sad apple very sad and i was planing on buying the iphone 5 but it look like im getting a galaxy s3 or the next nexus phone

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:16 9

17. omacmagics (Posts: 42; Member since: 27 Dec 2011)

This rotten Apple is making me sick, rotten apples should never be eaten.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:19 9

18. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

A patent for "slide to unlock" has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. Not one person is going to buy a phone so they can slide to unlock the lock screen lol. Just ridiculous.....

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:21 5

19. techman01 (Posts: 22; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)

i agree thats a stupid patent too i mean really. A kid goes to school guys guess what. what i can slide to unlock my phone. kid who cares how you unlock the phone. see who cares about all this patent stuff any way

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:58 2

72. Gsmalltheway (Posts: 200; Member since: 15 Aug 2009)

True, Also there must be a hefty fine for taking up the courts time with these stupid law suits. Make Apple pay each time they lose one and they will think more carefully about all these stupid patent nonsense

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:50 7

25. Rocksteady (unregistered)

Exactly,,, totally agree with you.
I read once somewhere in the comments on this website that even a tap is considered a zero-length slide from apple's point of view.
To say it loud and clear. Apple wants to be the only one that manufactures touch phones. AND APPLE, THAT AINT GONNA HAPPEN.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:32 5

20. willard12 (unregistered)

"competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours." So, slide to unlock was originally created by Apple?

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:35 1

21. techman01 (Posts: 22; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)

yes you are right but should you start to try to ban smartphones like the galaxy nexus or htc no you should. you should try to make a deal and sort stuff out like adults do.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:39 11

23. tedkord (Posts: 13858; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Slide to unlock was created by Neonode, stolen by Apple.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:44 7

24. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

There isn't much you can say when you lose a lawsuit. Apple seems to use the line about competitors stealing their technology whenever they are in a tight spot ethically. They shouldn't have filed the lawsuit in the first place.

Props to HTC! The best way to give Apple the middle-fingered wave is to buy their competitors products. If the EVO 4G LTE were available on VZW, I would own one by now.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:56 2

39. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

I think it is kind of ironic to mention that Apple uses their "they are stealing our technology/ideas" card "whenever they are in a tight spot ethically". Now, is it ethical to point fingers at someone, or even use that line at all? Well, they are a multi-billion-dollars company, after all. They can own - I mean, restructure the social construction that ethics have achieved. Fifty years from now we will all be using turtlenecks and not even know why.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:32 2

44. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

You might be wearing a turtle-neck. I don't even own one.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:37 3

22. metoyou (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Apple such a cunt and iLucy..err...very iLucy!!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 14:11 2

27. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

And you wonder why the British are awesome, they're smart, unlike a certain judge

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 14:21 2

28. kanagadeepan (Posts: 979; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

That that you r0tten fru!t....

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 14:24 5

29. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

Slide to unlock patent to too vague, that would mean any type of sliding to unlock the phone would fall under that patent, which is a bogus claim. That patent should be rendered invalid the world over, sliding your finger on a touchscreen or a stylus is normal and something that all touchscreens utilize. No one taps on the screen as much as they slide, unless you are typing in a password. There are some serious patents that make no sense, the law should strike them down with prejudice and htey cannot be ever invoked again or should be terminated and released as public domain.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:01 6

34. tedkord (Posts: 13858; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Slide to unlock existed prior to the iPhone, therefore the patent should never have been granted. Hell, patents for gestures should not be granted period.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 14:32 3

30. chocolatebear76 (Posts: 122; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)

apple! LOL

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 15:03 1

31. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

judges in the uk actually have a brain its why apple barely bring there fight here

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:01 3

35. MATOZ (Posts: 74; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)

First Time I saw THUMBs UP!! on all comments! (until now)
For this wonderful news!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:34 5

36. AnotherOne (Posts: 15; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)



posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:38 2

37. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

I'd love to be present at court in one of those cases and see how Apple's lawyers defend something like the "I-*can*-own-everything-that-will-ever-unlock-by-s​liding" patent. Kinda makes you wonder why they never sued during previous versions of Android/UI modifications, or why doesn't anybody else sue at all (we can still see a lot of similarities between UIs).

After all, Android's (or any OEM's) current UI, if anything, has relatively more utility and doesn't simply unlock the device - they take you straight to certain applications.

My solution to slide-to-unlock for Android: Remove the default unlock ring and switch it with the pattern unlock. Also, default password/pattern should be O--->O--->O :P

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:28

43. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Despite Android being open source and free, HTC and Samsung probably lost more money over it than any other OS. In the meantime, Google reaps all the benefits and hasn't lost a dime! What are they doing to help their OEM friends, seems like nothing. Once Samsug and HTC are nuked, the little boys are next. Step in line LG, Sony, hawei, etc.. Google Android open source and free, not! Only for a limited time to the little boys. Only the death of Apple will it all end.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:53 1

58. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

so will it be the end of free open source, or will it be the death of Apple?

I'll take the later one any time..

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:37 1

45. mahoganyheart (Posts: 11; Member since: 23 May 2012)

Now that I think about it, if the car manufacturer would act the same way, we would not have much to choose from, and I believe APPLE and all the others should learn from that. Just imagine if the manufacture who started the rear view mirror had patent it? I pity the foul, like Apple.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:55 1

59. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

If Ford had patented 4-wheel with an engine block and passenger/driver seats, we would all be either driving Model-T now, or 18 wheelers..

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