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Judge allows Motorola to use Steve Jobs' quotes vowing Android's destruction

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:30

Federal Judge Richard Posner has ruled against Apple, saying that Motorola can use Steve Jobs' violent, anti-Android comments in court; the smartphone patent infringement trial begins later this month and the Judge has made it clear that the jury should not make the case a popularity contest...

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posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:44 2

1. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

This somehow pops out of nowhere ?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:48 5

2. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

actually i do believe that google has been copying and steve is right on his quote, yea yea just thumb down you android fanboys

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:50 2

3. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

and even if apple lost this case it dosent mean this is wrong it just means.......

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:29 3

73. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

you're the worst troll next to taco50

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:37 19

8. rcwfox2002 (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)

You do know Apple written with c# which was stolen right? Android OS is free open source. #fact check

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:23 9

10. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Talking about the facts, two tips:
1) Apple is a company not OS, that's mean it can't be writen in any programing language.
2) iOS wasn't writen in C#.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 08:43

58. QinEmpire (Posts: 145; Member since: 16 May 2012)

Lol Apple is written in C# ? Lies lies, prove the IQ of fandroid is just as low as a beast.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:03 5

80. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1642; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Well actually, you can see that Apple's iOS5 stole some pretty big features from Android:



Also, Apple just recently patented a stylus device to be used on one of their future devices like the S-Pen. They obviously are seeing that Samsung created a popular device with the Galaxy Note. So, if you look at Apple today, are you really seeing innovation and creativity or just trying to follow along with the rest of the pack? Oh and not to mention that there have been several rumors that the next iPhone would have a 4 inch screen. Where is the Steve Jobs quote that says it's ludicrous to have a screen that big? I guess phone manufacturers that used Android were just out of their minds when they made such big screens, right?

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:14 2

90. SherlockHolmes (Posts: 125; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

Htc had this pen technology before Samsung in their Flyer Tablet which was called Scribe Pen !!

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:53 18

4. metoyou (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Another great reason to dislike Apple and iBj, playing favorites huh? Hat off to judge Posner. Gotta love this guy

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 09:02 3

59. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

Yes....every one should know that Apple is complete ill an rotten company...how anyone can bear these facts and still buy their products??
https://sites.google com/site/corpsins/

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 13:30 1

81. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

The latest ruling is a perfect example of why you don't piss off the trial judge.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:04

88. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

really? gotta love this guy? this is the same judge that everyone was criticizing because he "couldnt understand the technology" when apple had an advantage… but now that he upholds the law in motorolas favor (and personally i think this is quite trivial) hes suddenly loved by everyone eh?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:01 4

5. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

That means the Judge is also going acknowledge the view that android stole from Apple. I think that is fair.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:30 2

74. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

judge don't know shyt. he gets paid by APPLE to ban Android device just like in every other country. STOP SAYING ANDROID copies from Apple.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 16:31

95. Forsaken77 (Posts: 553; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)

Do you understand that Android DID COPY from Apple? The guy that invented Android used to work for Apple and took ideas that Apple was working with, left Apple, and used them to make Android. THIS IS A FACT! I'm not putting down Google... I own a Galaxy S2 and prefer the Android OS. But facts are facts and you can't pretend it never happened just because you don't like Apple. I personally don't like Apple either, but i recognize the fact that android was born from Apple ideas and that Samsung blatantly copied Apples' designs, down to the shape and placement of ports on the devices.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:08 11

6. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)

I hate to sound insensitive, but Jobs has passed on...and Android is still here.

Being serious, though, I am not trying to say that Jobs' words are vain and senseless, but the fact that he vowed to destroy Android shows he was not willing to accept any competition, especially if they use ideas that Apple either came up with or claims to have come up with.

It's just all part of one big, messy, never-ending battle between Google and Apple, and it's going to just get messier as time goes by.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 08:41

56. QinEmpire (Posts: 145; Member since: 16 May 2012)

Yeah so true, Steve jobs quote will simply backfire Moto since Android indeed stole things. Anything within Google's control is just stupid.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 06:15

107. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

you don't mind Apple steals eg status bar and almost all the "new" features since iOS4??
just watch the newest features in iOS....just a form what's in Android many years.....
Apple adds his own maps, Siri (almost unused by buyers) is just an evolution of voice commands, update without PC, over air sync, ...

and the question is "when apple copies widgets?" without them it is still a toy (I know, you dont need that, even 16:9 you hate but love with iPhone 5 :-D )

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:33 10

7. phnrpt (Posts: 18; Member since: 28 May 2012)

US DOJ has already charged Apple for price fixing of the eBook. That’s far not enough. Apple’s role is at least conspiracy with AT&T. Apple also benefits from prevent positive competition with Samsung. The victims are us, people, and the consumers from US. We cannot expect Verizon, Sprint or T mobile to bring AT&T to court for monopoly because that never happened for the last five years. We don’t know why these big three companies allow AT&T the screw around. But we do know that we, the consumers from US are the true victims.
People from Europe, Asia or Africa enjoyed “Samsung galaxy S2” five months earlier than US people did. “Samsung galaxy note” is another three months earlier, even as today, the other big three US carriers still can’t announce for the galaxy note release. All the first four Major carriers in UK are already selling galaxy note.
We, the US consumers are being ignored and discriminated by the arrogant AT&T and Apple Inc. we need US DOJ to protect the US consumers’ rights.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:50 4

12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Samsung phones are always released in the US last. Has nothing to do with Apple.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 07:28 3

48. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i did the impossible and thumbed you up taco. For once your comment was fair and square and correct.

Apple has nothing to do with the delay from the US getting smartphones. You can blame the carriers for that for always wanting to monkey around with the phones internally and externally. They also put them through their own individual "quality check' process which takes time, and constantly send units back to manufacturers to add more bloatware in. Apple has a contractual deal to get past much of that malarky. Thats one thing that apple does that I wish the others would do. Put the carriers back into place.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:28 2

72. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

APPLE ALREADY have ban HTC phones ONE X and EVO LTE which is unfair to us the consumer who spend our hard earn money to buy the phone.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 03:37 1

42. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile don't have the DROID line of phones. Should we have them go to court for having one model the other companies don't? T-Mobile had the G1 before other carriers even considered offering an Android phone; should they be taken to court because they jumped at an opportunity for exclusive rights to a product? Verizon was the exclusive carrier of the Blackberry Storm series, should the other carriers have sued them for that? T-Mobile was the first carrier with a Nokia Windows Phone; should people on Verizon and Sprint sue them because they want it? AT&T is currently the exclusive carrier of the Nokia Lumia 900 in the U.S., but it's not a conspiracy, as AT&T is working with Microsoft and Nokia to spread the word about the new product and brand resurgence. As a large carrier, AT&T has the capability (as do the other 3 major carriers) to negotiate with the phone manufacturers to create a certain device with certain capabilities, and, in sharing with the development, cost, distribution, and advertising, makes it their own for either a limited time of indefinitely, which benefits the carrier for offering a unique product its competitors don't have, the OEM for having a dedicated outlet for its product, and the consumer for the OEM and carrier working together to try to improve their experience and loyalty. It's called competition, and it's applicable in almost every facet of our materialistic consumerism-driven ways of life and has grown subconciously into our mentalities. Just as Ford's vehicles are exclusively offering Microsoft Sync, or GMs are the only ones that can come with OnStar factory installed, or when you see a certain brand of food being sold at a sporting event (I think Hunter is the exclusive hot dog sold at Major League Baseball games, for instance), or how you can only get Coca-Cola products at Six Flags theme parks and Live Nation/Ticketmaster venues.
If you don't like that you can't get something somewhere in an easy way, then bite the metaphorical bullet and find the harder or more expensive way of accomplishing your goals. If you wanted an iphone so badly on a different network, then you had the opportunity to buy one without a contract and without a carrier, hack it to unlock it (or buy an international version), then find a GSM carrier that would be compatible for it. If you want to drink Pepsi or Dr. Pepper at Six Flags or at a Live Nation concert, bring in a bottle yourself. If none of those options are worthwhile, then quit complaining and suck it up; life moves on, and there's bound to be something that satisfies your selfish requirements, while, granted, not being exactly what you want. It's a phone/soda/whatever, it's not the end of the world or something that is life-threatening without it. If all else fails, you can try to find a way to change the system or make your own contribution to it instead of just complaining about what is essentially a non-issue

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 10:36

67. thelegend6657 (unregistered)

Stop complaining and buy unlocked

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 11:45

69. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

AT&T also had an exclusive contract with apple to sell the iphone.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:50 16

9. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well, i like this judge so far. I don't think there is any reason not to include Jobs's quotes, because they're quite revealing about Apple's motivations for gong after Android manufacturers.

Can't wait for the Motorola lawsuit against Apple to finally go to court here in the US. Apple bit off more than it can chew.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:49 2

11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Of course you think this is fair lol

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:55 2

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well, do you disagree?

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 00:00 1

15. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

I think his personal opinion has no bearing on the facts, however I don't really care.

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