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Judge Koh continues Samsung's legal slump by denying all 12 summary judgment motions

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Jul 2012, 01:17

A summary judgement motion brought by Samsung back in May was denied in its entirety by Judge Lucy Koh on Saturday; the Korean manufacturer had attacked the validity of Apple's IP rights and Apple's FRAND-related antitrust claims...

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posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:34 5

27. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I think, Otterbox - without knowing you - that Sniggly knows more about tech than you are ever capable of learning in your entire life.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 12:25 2

148. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Well for starters, that's a huge exaggeration. Secondly let's not pretend that Sniggly is the most unbiased user on this site. And Otterbox made a valid point, he was also never claiming to be the techies guy either.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 13:07 1

160. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 13:23 1

164. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

and lawyers know more about laws than Sniggly will ever know..

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:51 1

206. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

And my f*cking cat knows more about grammar, syntax, and composition than you will ever know...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:26 3

19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You're completely out of touch with reality as usual. Anyone with two eyes can see Samsung strategy is to copy Apple.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:29 3

22. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Competition isn't copying its trying to make a better product than the rest and that's what Samsung has done time after time.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:34 5

26. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Oh, the irony of that statement...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:35 6

28. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Did you not notice how many of those here who despise this, are actually Apple customers?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 02:47 4

33. iShepherd (Posts: 38; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

The only thing I would accuse Samsung of is copying Apple's style of marketing and hype. Hardware-wise, at worst, some of their features were inspired by Apple as Apple's own iphone4 was inspired by:


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 03:49 3

48. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Sure, because the look and feel of the Galaxy S 3 is SOOOO much of a copy of the iPhone.

Apart from S-Voice, Samsung has done a lot of work with their phones to differentiate themselves from the iPhone.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 05:02 2

58. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Let me ask you this. With Samsung facing all these lawsuits why would they make the S-voice interface so similar to Siri?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 05:40 3

69. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Because it's almost impossible to make it look different?

You ask a question - you get a visual response. You got a microphone icon for tapping on it to start the process (although Samsung also implemented the "Hi Galaxy" phrase [innovation]). It's impossible to do this in any different way.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 08:29 3

93. Zayuh24 (Posts: 149; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

Agreed. It's common sense: You ask a question, you get a response. Simple as that.

What else can you expect from a program that is DESIGNED to be simple? My God, there are so many geniuses on this site, it's ridiculous.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 12:51 1

157. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

It's impossible to use a different color scheme than Apple. They can't use sound waves or a person icon instead of a mic.

There's lots of ways to implement this without making it look just like Siri.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:53 2

222. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

you moron, siri looks just like Vlingo, which is what the samsung S-Voice is based off of, and google voice actions have been around longer than siri, even when it was an app in the market. They are not looking like siri, siri is looking like them.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 08:40 2

99. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)

its like saying

toyota is copying honda because both if it's cars have wheels


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 11:38 1

132. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

is that all you ever think about how Samsung copied? You're one completely blind idiot

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 13:25 1

165. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

the same thing was said about the Galaxy Tab.. teh Nexus. every single device and look where we stand now...

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 18:33

237. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

it's THE not TEH spell check before you post something

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 14:37 3

180. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

If they copied apple their phones would be less powerful and have tiny screens, also they would have to adopt a HIDEOUS version of touchwiz (I think that's what sammy calls it) that only let you view the apps drawer, that's it, the apps drawer, that would have to be the whole friggen OS, UGLY rows of apps you cannot hide, THAT is what sammy would have to do to copy apple, but Sammy passed Apple with the SGSII, and now, with ICS, they are LIGHTYEARS ahead, and the iPhone becomes more antiquated and obsolete, with its ugly clunky cookie cutter OS, where NOTHING CHANGES version to version, same ugly rows, same ugly screens.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:52

207. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:54

229. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

"good artists copy, great artists steal"
- Steve BlwJobs -

and if samsung is copying apple as their strategy, i bet the SGS3 wouldn't be a 4.8" device, but a 3.5" with a half-baked OS instead..

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 06:33 5

77. Victor.H (Posts: 790; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Nicely said.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 11:42

136. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

hey Victor.H what is your stake on this case. this is getting over rated. Getting tired of Apple btching bout Samsung/HTC. DO u think Samsung Copied APPLE?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 13:27 1

166. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

why you ask him. if he doesnt answer in Android;s favor you wil critiq him and if we agrees you will applaud...anything but to respect his decision..

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:54 4

208. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

Holy...holy sh*t kid, care to try that again in english? Maybe try and read what you just "wrote" out loud to yourself before putting it out there for the whole world to point and laugh at?
The fattest goose in town to anyone who can translate that from 'moron' to english.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 18:35

238. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

critique NOT critq. learn to spell full words before psoting comment

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 14:49

246. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

I'm not asking you the question go back to your iPhone

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 09:05 1

111. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I'm not sure if it's Koh, or the lawyers and their tactics. Koh can only judge on what she is presented, and she's had some good responses previously, so if Samsung's lawyers are doing a poor job of defending themselves and not being as convincing as they need to be, facts can get hidden under the veneer of the legal system. Take the Tab 10.1 case. They used 2001: A Space Odyssey as proof of prior art, but didn't follow up with other examples, like Star Trek TNG's tablet devices, or even Windows-running tablets, or using an example.like how TVs and fridges and washers and dryers and general appliances all look generically the same, with certain details to set them apart, be it a logo, a slight tweak on a particular aspect like handles or dials. If Samsung's defense was something along the lines of tablets being alliances and all appliances if the same genre will share certain design aspects, allot may have been a more successful ploy than what they did. Hindsight, sure, but nothing earth-shattering.
What we need is United States v. Apple for wasting taxpayers' money on baloney like this, and same everywhere else they try to exert legal pressure instead of competitive.

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