It is time for manufacturers to provide more detail about available storage on devices

With just about every computing device purchased nowadays, it is generally accepted actual usable...
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1. tiara6918

Posts: 2263; Member since: Apr 26, 2012

Yep,they should provide real information about the product since that is what you're paying for. They should at least mention in the specs sheet of their devices the number of storage available(example:32gb-25gb user available)

9. night_elf

Posts: 51; Member since: Apr 02, 2013

How can you give an information when the final firmware is put together by carriers (with their bloat ware)? I think this i really exaggerated, especially when you have the MicroSD card option (I have a 64GB Class10 card), It's just a lot of fuss about nothing, I mean its obvious that the OS will take some space.

13. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

If the final firmware is put together by carriers, then they can list it. All she's saying is that it should be listed.

17. HDShatter

Posts: 1021; Member since: Jan 17, 2013

They need to make a manufacturing law where the device has as much storage as advertised. So instead of having 16gb storage would really be like 24gb with 16gb user usable.

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22. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yes they do.

24. moroninc

Posts: 193; Member since: Jul 14, 2012

what makes you think its a she?? i bet she got more likes because people think its a she.

38. apple4never

Posts: 1064; Member since: May 08, 2013

cuz there's a friggin profile pic of a girl

42. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Maybe it's the profile pick. Mine is actual, so I assume hers is too. +1 apple4never.

23. moroninc

Posts: 193; Member since: Jul 14, 2012

not a deal breaker.. besides a microsd card, we can also root the device and remove all the friggin bloatware thats taking up the space. dont know why people are making such a big deal out of it, the sales are still strong because people see it as a non-issue

26. sharks

Posts: 236; Member since: Feb 16, 2013

Well, i have to agree 100%. It's already a hassle for those who aren't quite tech-savvy and it definitely feels like we're being robbed since the product states clearly a specified amount of memory space for what we're paying for but then we obviously always get less storage space on the device after formatting and additional space lost to any OS and pre-loaded software included by the manufacturer. This persistent and accentuating problem applies to any type of media storage; add an internal hard drive to your PC, buy an external USB pendrive, phone, tablet, phablet, etc. So, really, thank you, PhoneArena, for finally raising this highly controversial but persistent "dishonest" practice against unsuspecting and powerless consumers. We haven't been able to do anything as consumers, as that's the way the industry has always been functioning and we need it to change so we know exactly how much usable memory we are paying for!

29. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Totally agree with you! They should at least mention the number of storage available in the specs sheet since this is what we're paying for! These manufacturers need to know that we pay them money and they need to provide us a full detailed service!

30. EXkurogane

Posts: 863; Member since: Mar 07, 2013

Never a problem to me. Lesser space is expected, and if you are well informed enough you should even know what OS takes up how much space. When i buy a new laptop i would expect 50GB already used up by OS and extra stuff the guys at the retailer installs for me (At my place, buying a new laptop, the shop sales person installs all the most commonly used software for you for free, including download accelerators, torrents, skype, extra browsers, etc). If im buying a 16 Gb windows phone, 14.X space is only available for a 16 GB storage, and OS takes up around 3GB, not to mention preloaded apps, maps, etc. If you have brains to think and knowledge to back up yu wouldnt be ranting about these storage issues because you know in detail what is in your new tablet and phone. Those who are lacking knowledge bark louder knowing nothing. The amount of space left for the Surface tabs and MacBook Air is not surprising to me (more like, already expected). But i do agree Galaxy S4's half used up space is kinda on the ridiculous side.

39. apple4never

Posts: 1064; Member since: May 08, 2013

youre probably tech savvy, lets say a first time smartphone buyer gets a phone with 16gb onboard thinking itll last them a year or two, then when they open up their smartphone they see like 8.5 gb available, they have to cancel their contract or spend additional money. Im just saying it can be a nuiscence for some people

2. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Defiantly agree, if it says 16 GB or whatever, you get 16 GB or whatever free storage. Even with my 32GB iPod Touch 4 I get 28.5 GB which is pretty close to 32 GB, but there still 3.5 GB missing which I'd love to have.

16. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

no u can't because it reserve by os. That's y

19. BlueForce

Posts: 26; Member since: Apr 02, 2013

Wrong. Manufacturers of memory go by the regular standard of 1000 being a new tier. So 1000mb makes 1gb to them however to electronics it is 1024mb to make 1gb therefore you are losing excess of 24mb per gb due to bytes, and all the way up to a GB. The way the companies label their space should be changed to mention 1024 as the standard.

25. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I know, you missed my point. I think they should put extra space to make up for the space the OS uses. So in my opinion I should get an extra 4 GB so then I will have 32 GB that I can use.

35. BlueForce

Posts: 26; Member since: Apr 02, 2013

Oh i know what you mean I was just trying to let people know why space is never all there. And they can't make memory in odd sizes I don't believe. Only in multiples of 8. And yes that would be great if you could have 16gb or 32gb usable but I don't think that'll happen. Also, I was saying wrong to that guy not you. But really, who uses that much space on apps? I have I think 12 additional apps on my phone and that's it and I remove them when I'm done with them never needing more than 1gb for app space.

3. vandroid

Posts: 405; Member since: Sep 04, 2012

Manufacturers need to include 32 gbs and a memory card slot

4. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Samsung has told people to buy an SD card for storage purposes if what's provided is not enough. Why do you have to keep whining? /s By the way, stop taking S4's name, the fans hate it! :P

8. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Nathan they should specify though. 16 gigs of internal storage is true, but tell the buyer how much of that is actually user available. Now that the 32 gig s4 is out, my interest has risen. Being a primary iPhone user, I'm used to gobs of internal storage on my 64 gig. You're gonna rag on me for this lol, but even my "note 2" had 10.7 available out the box and I thought that was terrible.

40. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Haha...rag you, i won't. What i wrote was just a joke. I remember writting on an article in PA, which i forgot, like manufacturers should leave the 'claimed' available flash memory in the phone but reserve a separate block for the OS. They would know the size of it certainly...that won't be a hard thing to do.

43. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

True, it wouldn't. How's it going bro?

46. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

I'm all good bro! I'm all good! Been hovering around PA but don't feel like commenting much...the fanboism is getting too much to bear.

5. Atrixboyyy

Posts: 596; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

ive always hated the way storage was advertised.

6. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Totally ridiculous is what this is. The author hit the nail on the head, when he said the 16 gig s4 is the 8 gig s4.

7. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

I think he meant that the actual free space is around 8GB and it was kind of like 8GB version you know, the number name game.

11. darkkjedii

Posts: 30974; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yeah but in actuality, since you can't remove the bloat actually is an 8 gigger. The bad part comes when you want to record vids in 1080p to watch on that gorgeous screen. 1080p vids will take up hella file storage, and though you can select a lower res...isn't that defeating the point of a having a screen that pretty. And let's not even mention games. And other apps that can't be installed on sd. It can get problematic bro.

14. gwuhua1984

Posts: 1237; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

I think manufacturers should be more transparent on the storage availability. I thought HTC One X was bad enough with 32GB having only 25GB free... I didn't think this would become a trend for other manufacturers too.
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