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Is Google now blocking mobile YouTube from Windows Phone?

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Jan 2013, 13:05

Last week, we showed you how Google was redirecting maps.google.com to the main Google mobile search page and after a few excuses by the guys at Mountain View, Google Maps was once again functional for Windows Phone 8; now the problem seems to be with YouTube as attemptsd to load a video from the mobile YouTube web site are met with a request to load a non-existent app...

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posted on 13 Jan 2013, 00:17 3

85. Rocksteady (unregistered)

You are right, Google's services should be available for WP users; but microsoft must pay for it, unless they start to behave, until then, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 02:02 3

94. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

Dude, I agree that Google has right to charge for what they own. But what the heck is this discrimination for? I mean they provide everything to Apple users. Maybe BB as well. Youtube app is even available for Symbian too. Then why only WP is suffering this loss? I dare they try to block YT on desktop windows. Users shouldn't get crushed between what war the giants are playing.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 04:21 3

102. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

"The problem seems to be when using the Desktop mode in Internet Explorer on Windows Phone 8. Switching to Mobile view seems to work fine."

That doesnt look like its blocked at all to me. This is a non story. That prhase came from this article...

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 21:24

129. MeoCao (unregistered)

We don't enjoy others suffering, we demand MS treat Android the same way as GG treats WP

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 15:11 5

27. jed27 (Posts: 65; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

Google's software or not, it should be available to all platforms. Yeah, it's their choice to support or not to support WP but this is getting out of hand. The end users are the ones suffering. And don't even try to argue with if you want google maps/youtube access, buy an Android.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 15:31 7

28. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)

if the end users are suffering, it's their own choice. lots of option out there.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 19:48 4

56. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

lots of option out there but apparently, doing such thing, removes an option. They won't support the WP, I get that. But seriously? Blocking a platform to access a website? That's just sick.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 21:06 4

63. joey_sfb (Posts: 6541; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Think for a moment, would to support the kid that punch you in the face as your president.

Or would you rather give him a tight slap on the face.

M$ is the biggest bully around, they are hostile to their competitors and have never played nice.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 10:31

112. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

You serious? It's a kid's attitude to do such thing. It's apple's play card, not google. We all know MS charges google for other services, but have you seen skype being sold on the playstore? No. Google should not keep whining about this. I can understand the no app support move, but blocking the freaking website? Can't accept that. I can accept it that Google won't develop any of its apps for WP, but SERIOUSLY? BLOCK A WEBSITE?! are you serious man?

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 17:46 5

40. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4752; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Does apple or microsoft offer their services on google or each other's platforms? Is there iTunes available on android or wp? Is there an Xbox apple for ios or android? No, but google should make their services available on competing platforms, and for free? If this were people screaming for those other apps on android the most often given response would be "Get an iphone/wp". So how is this any different.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 19:36 4

53. Jyakotu (Posts: 852; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)

Microsoft does have apps for Android, such as Sky Drive and Xbox Smart Glass. Not to mention, their Office apps are on both Android and iOS. Apple is really the only company that doesn't offer its services to other devices, iTunes being the notable example. Don't try that card.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 20:27 1

60. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

THIS. not to mention skype.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 22:01

72. 8logic (Posts: 152; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)

thats because google doc, drive, etc... are free and was taking shares away from ms.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 22:24 1

76. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4752; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

I hadn't realized that, but either way, that's MS's decision to offer those services. They wouldn't have to offer them either, but I'd bet the main reason is to get people hooked on their services, so that they can then have an opportunity to sell them hardware down the line. Look at MS's business setup, how much is free? They're simply hoping that if someone's happy with their software they'll consider WP on they're next phone upgrade. Its the same reason why google started offering their services on iOS. At the time iOS had the most marketshare, so they wanted to get their services to as many people as possible. Apple wouldn't have had to allow it, but they knew there were a lot of users who used Gmail, and if they could offer Google's services on their device, that translates into more sales. The difference there is Apple is in the business of selling hardware and media, they're not about ad revenue, where google is. Otherwise I doubt you'd see google services on apple devices, much like what is going on now between them.

The fact is 10 years ago you wouldn't see ANY competitor's services on a company's products. But now everyone expects it. While it makes it easier to transition from one platform to another, none of these companies are legally bound to provide them. If all these companies provided these services, that are a way to entice customers to buy their hardware on competitor's platforms, then they lose a reason for that customer to give them their money and it may go to that same competitor. How is that a smart idea?

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 23:44

80. Klevis (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Dec 2012)

You should understand the basics of the market before making comparisons with kids in the playground and bullies. In a market you have to choices: 1)Give your products for free 2)Sell them for a price. But one thing you cannot do is discrimination. You cannot block anyone from purchasing your product if you are in the market. This is uncompetitive behavior and is not allowed by law.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 01:12 1

88. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"You can not block anyone from purchasing your product if you are in the market."

So naive. Lets see.... Do you remember the back-and-forth between Palm and Apple over iTunes? Palm would develop a hack and the next day, Apple plugged it with a new version of iTunes (that wouldn't run on Palm's OS). I don't recall anyone at Apple going to jail over that little game. Do you?

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 02:06 1

95. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

The difference is that, iTunes is a propriety software. Google has already covered that with not deciding to develop SW for MS, okay? Blocking a website for a platform... hmm now throw an example of this. This is so BS that no company would dive so deep in BS sea like google is doing now.

You don't own those videos, google. You're just hosting them and many vid owners are using WP phones. Have some respect for your users.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 21:20

128. MeoCao (unregistered)

Google has terms of use for YT, did G breach them?

Does Apple own the content on iTunes? No they don't either and you don't complain about iTunes, all MS and WP fanboys want is making GG look bad.

I support GG using its power to force MS play fair with Android.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 05:59

134. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

ofcourse you support this, you a massive fanboy

google's whole caring for the customer lie is shown now,its all about business and money not about us

all id say is this article really shows the worst android fans and google worshippers ever, they are so blind. just like the apple users before them except im sure they believe there bs they say

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 01:18 2

90. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4752; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Where in the hell did I reference playgrounds or bullies? As far as discrimination, that goes on everywhere. There are many apps that are only available on certain platforms even though they could be made available.

The point is, it is Google's service to do with as it pleases, no matter what you or I say. I'm not saying that they shouldn't make it available, but it's their decision in the end. Also, didn't the article say that it only affects WP7 and older, and WP8 users who are in desktop mode? Is it maybe possible that the update they pushed isn't compatible with those software configurations? Updates can break functionality as does so quite a bit, just look at the comment sections in forums after updates get pushed.

But either way, we can debate all day long on if it's right or wrong. My thought is while it would be nice if they had all platforms running smoothly, it's not something they HAVE to do. Does it suck for he people who can't access it? Yes. But show me where it says they're entitled to it on any platform.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 23:57 1

83. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)

Sky Drive is very basic and limited app, and Xbox Smart Glass is very buggy. Google is working on versions for WP, but while the WP market share is too bad just less than 4%, it's not priority for an inmediate release. In iOS the history is very different, Youtube, Maps, GoogleDrive, GoogleApps, Gmail, Currents, Chrome, Google Earth, Google+ and Snapseed are all very good apps, and three of then are in the 2012 top ten. This is a very good demo that Googles is compromised in offers services in all platforms, but it's time to wait for WP grow the market share and an aceptable maturity.

By the way, there are no Office for iOS or Android right now, there are just promises for 2013 Q2, like actually is Youtube for WP a google's promise.Don't try that card again.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 10:38

113. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

let's see your point when bb10 gets launched and a youtube app appears. If they really stick to their move that they would not support WP because of lack of users.

also, it's not all about the apps we're talking about here. It's the access of WP users to a website that everyone should have the freedom to access it.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 20:03 1

57. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)

The thing is, its not like Google is just refusing to make an app for WP. They blocked WP, probably intentionally, from using an already free and accessible site that was previously available no problem. Its just silly.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 04:24

103. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

If you wana use iTunes, or Garageband....what do you have to do? If you wanna use Siri...what do you have to do?

Not saying it should be blocked for WP users....but lets not act like Google is the only one doing this. I applaud MS for making Office available for Android and iOS. Bad move IMO since that would be a plus to get a WP.

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 07:05 1

109. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)

Why google must develope a Youtube app for WP, a platform that have just less than 4% of market share, when Android was on 20%, tons of apps were not developed for an android, take a lot of time to see companies porting apps to Android, and Google never did a mess or insinuate that apple was blocking Android.

This very clear that MS is doing a dirty war triying to make google as an "evil company", when everivary knows that MS is the father of all evil companies and master in license fees extortion.

The only way to see more apps in WP is making it more atractive to developers, and getting better market share

posted on 13 Jan 2013, 15:05

122. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I totally agree.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 17:03 5

38. ichiranjeeb (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)

R U DUMB !!!

It's not a Software, It's a SERVICE. Anything that can be accessed from web for free should work on mobile browser, if it's compatible. Here, WP8 is running IE10, in fact it's the Same engine they used for their desktop browser & compatible for Everything the Web has to offer.

I think, U r happy becz people r suffering. people can buy their device of choice but if u r stopping them from using your FREE service becz they didn't brought ur device is EVIL.

btw, Youtube was working Fine before 10th. Now I m just waiting for the response of Scroogle.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 17:30 4

39. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Oh waaa. Are you crying because Google didn't drop everything to pat you on the head? Maybe you should spend less time watching videos. Just because something is accessible from the Internets, doesn't make it a service. Even if it were a service, that doesn't impose an obligation on Google to make it work on your phone. Free enterprise and what-not.

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 17:57 2

41. windroid (unregistered)

It’s a SERVICE, and discrimination is a crime in many countries!

posted on 12 Jan 2013, 21:22 1

65. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"...discrimination is a crime in many countries!"

And what is being discriminated against? The race of the user? The gender of the user? Religion? Sexual orientation? Oh, choice of telephone! Could you give me a citation in any country where discrimination against the choice of a particular telephone operating system is against the law?

BTW, just because you claim it is a service, doesn't make it so. If that were the circumstance, you could claim that the Sun rises in the West and sets in the East.

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