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Is Apple on the brink of "repeating the mistakes of the Mac era"?

0. phoneArena posted on 28 Nov 2012, 16:36

We have made no bones about it, we're a little soured on the notion of analysts, because they tend to just tell us stuff that we already know. But, this time around, we're kind of interested, because this prediction, while something we've heard (and said ourselves), is very detailed as to why Apple may be heading for a repeat of "the mistakes of the Mac era"...

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posted on 28 Nov 2012, 16:44 79

1. zeli007 (Posts: 7; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

Apple is boring now. Sorry, iphone is boring !

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 17:23 53

13. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

It all boils down to Apple's stubborn ways, their unwillingness to change.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:44 21

44. MeoCao (unregistered)

I think Apple's trouble is not about integrated services but about their ambition to monopolize mobile hardware with too few choices. They should have offered as many choices as possible like sizes, colors, design styles, carriers...

Instead they offered just 1 model of iPhones and 1 model (now 2) of iPads and 1 carrier in 4 or 5 years.

This can maximize their profits but they have put themselves on a losing course.

Android with its huge number of options finally overwhelmed iPhone, iPad will follow suit.

Another oppotunity missed for Apple, and this may be their final chance.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 22:40 4

66. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

Apple, I only say this because I care, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP UP!!!!!!!!!

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 08:47

77. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4321; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

You replied to comment 44...I'm sorry but you dialed the wrong number. He's not Apple...
Killer thumbnail Michael...love it!! :D

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 07:18 1

73. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

Arrogance, lying, stealing, .... That's Apple
Like no antenna gate
No ebooks trust
No stolen patents, ....
Sole deserves just to be hated for this immoral behaviour and punished...

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 18:08 14

25. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

I'd like Apple to remain Android's strong little brother, because competition does great things to consumers, such as the release of the great Nexus 10, or the iPad4 for that matter, which may be the least profitable Apple mobile device, meaning you get great bang for your buck.

The problem Apple is facing is that it depends on it's elitist status, but with scratch-gate and Android, Windows improvements, do you still get the best device for that crazy price tag? That's the billion dollar question, as the dream scenario of having hard core fanatics can turn into a nightmare if they take the whole bunch to a different "best" company.

At the end of the day, the iPad may see Apple through even if iPhone falls behind, but serious profit cut must come because frankly, their most recent products don't look all that fancy with the aggressively priced Nexuses and Lumias making noise.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 20:30 4

53. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

I'd rather see Windows Phone take ios' place, and if apple continues in its ways, that'll happen.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 21:21 4

59. Aeires (unregistered)

Personally, I'd rather see RIM take that spot. MS can keep the PC dominance, let RIM come back like they used to. RIM offered more to the mobile world than MS has.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 22:39 2

65. JGuinan007 (Posts: 692; Member since: 19 May 2011)

PC, Tablet, and smart phone are all merging the companies that releaize this will be the ones who succeed Google gets it, MS gets it and is making strides to get on top of it, Apple is getting pushed off the hill but hasn't fallen yet, Rim fell off the hill and still doesn't get it, Nokia fell of the hill and MS picked them up to buy them or throw them off the cliff, Samsung rides with who ever is on top, Sony is dusting themselves off and starting up the hill again, HTC is trying to be more like Apple and is slipping down the hill all for lack of removable battery and expandable micro sd card slot, LG is leaping over HTC as they slip, Motorola is quiety creeping up the hill, ect ect

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 08:11

74. ALEXT (Posts: 1; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)

Hey guys, believe me or not, I was and android fan the last 2 years( HTC HD, Google NExus, GAlaxy note I, HTC One S), and finally now I've adopted BB 9900, which for me is an awesome smart machine. Ok, some of us need more of business features, and less media function. But as an customer I'm sick of the all expectation that we permanently have from the soft, the screen, the new features of every piece of hardware they are issuing every year. We need a extended tool for communicating with our friends and partners, sharing information and finally have all the information we really need, NOT THE THINGS THEY WANT TO HAVE.
So, as I said I'm happy with my new BB and hope new OS 10 and the new premium handset to be a hit for RIM.
Respect !

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 20:52

55. webOSlove (unregistered)

If you care so much about competition then Android shouldn't even be the most popular.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 18:27 17

28. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

End of an era coming soon.

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 17:20 1

79. darkkjedii (Posts: 24930; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Yeah according to u

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 21:45 4

80. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

Listen kid, the above mentioned comment "End of an era coming soon" includes the strength of millions of people.
So it means according to millions of people "End of an era coming soon"...!! Now bugger off :p

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 18:27 20

29. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

imacs are boring too.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 18:34 15

32. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)

Nintendo Wii's are boring!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:08 1

35. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

That would explain why they sell so poorly. I'm not spending a dime on a new gaming console until they perfect virtual reality for the home based gamer (or someone finally releases a new Crimson Skies game - which ever comes first).

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:16 8

36. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Sad that the 360 out sold the Wii U last week lol maybe its a sign that people dont want someting new they want something cheap!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:39 4

42. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

you know what man? I got my ps3 slim, and the only other gaming platform im considering getting......or investing in for that matter, is my mobile phone! lol im seriously thinking about getting that android controller for my phone..... :)

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 21:17 5

57. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

the Wii U is not as powerful or as feature packed as a 360 and it has 1/1000th the gaming library.. that could have more to do with it.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 20:29 2

52. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I like my Wii :

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 16:48 17

2. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)

I've been saying this for monthes!
They're great at marketing and everything, but if they lose they're trendy status, they'll plateau... and now that they've become "The Man", they're making all the same mistakes they did in the 80's/90's.
Cut margins, lower costs, open up development, treat consumers like intelligent people, and for god sake, stop trying to stiffle other people's innovation and get back to having some of your own.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 20:18 1

49. redmd (Posts: 1367; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

what's a monthes?

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 21:35

63. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)

The result of my typing distracted...

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 16:52 9

3. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Android is the cancer of Apple's dominance in its self-engineered paradigm. It's ever stronger end bigger everytime Apple tries to keep the pace that is doing now with breaking its own rules. Apple created Android and therefore there is little chance that they will keep high profit margins, because, software aside, hardware is shifting its center from iDevices to Android/Win8 concept, which is basically again on the road to the convergence with PC world - something Apple is trying to avoid all the time.

So, I think they should change their DNA (like they did last time with mobile revolution). Because it's precisely its current DNA that's causing Android metastasis.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 17:21 22

12. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Apple created Android? Sorry I'm having trouble getting past this. This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 17:32 8

19. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I'm speaking metaphorically, but this way I say more truth than to say Google created it. The paradigm of mobile IT that revolutionized the industry is created by Apple, and everything Android accomplished in past couple of years thru its development is guided by the laws (competing and surpassing them) created by Apple. So, in a way, Android is the effect of Apple that is destined to destroy it. My comparison with cancer metastasis is not a coincidence - its exactly the same mechanism of domino effect and multiplicity.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 17:41 6

21. joey_sfb (Posts: 6608; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Apple walled garden create a need for google to create Android, apple wants everything including google's Ad revenue source. Now even microsoft windows 8 follow that path.

Android existence is for Google long tern survival.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:21 5

37. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Well said. The same can be said with (for example) Office for Windows and OpenOffice. Microsoft 'created' OpenOffice indirectly by charging way too much for their own product, thus generating a need or desire for someone to create something else who obviously decided that an option is better than no options at all. Factor in the price difference and we have a no brainer...especially for someone like me who doesn't require all the features the Windows version offers.

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