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Ice Cream Sandwich adoption takes an upturn

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Apr 2012, 20:10

As is usual for the Android ecosystem, there has been a pretty slow adoption rate for the newest system update, Ice Cream Sandwich, but it looks like we may be getting ready for the upturn and the new numbers...

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posted on 02 Apr 2012, 20:23 7

1. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

This is one of the big reasons I prefer iPhone. I like to have my phone supported and get timely updates.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 20:34 4

4. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Completely agree having the stock UI supported by the maker of the os aka nexus/iphone is really nice. If I were to jump ship to android I would prefer a nexus for this very reason.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 20:55 13

8. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

I prefer Android, because it's better. :)

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:05 6

9. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

It's not better its different. Meant for different type of people with different needs. Taco hasn't been so bad yet lets give him a break till he is... This is a valid point.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:16 6

11. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

No, I didn't say it to aggravate him. But I stand corrected...your right, it's just different. What I should have said was "All things considered, I still think Android is a better fit for me."

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:29 3

12. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

O.. I thought it was a jest. In that case your second statement I can agree with.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:34 5

13. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

thanks for the mindless trolling.... I cant press report harder

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:43 3

14. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

O come on the iPhone does get timely updates and is a valid reason to like the phone.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 21:56 6

15. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I know that. the iPhone gets timely updates, but his comment was not about that. his comment is mostly hate towards android "the inferior OS"

1. Android phones get support, manufacturers send out builds that improve performance fix bugs and sometimes add new features.... just because its not on ICS does not mean your phone is not supported or that they don't give a ****

2. like I said before fatal bugs are fixed in many manufacturer personal updates witch is nearly the same as having a new OS with that bug fixed, also android phones trend to get updates with all the features the OS includes, unlike iOS that sends you a "new OS" that has nearly none of the marketed features on older devices, and some cases even make the phone operation worst than it used to be before. so why should we brag about the OS version on my phone when I can't enjoy a thing other iPhones will enjoy, almost the same as getting no new version updates

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:08 1

17. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

None of the marketed features? I have an iPhone 4 the only feature I didn't get was siri. They try and do that to make the experience smooth by not including tasks the older devices can't handle. If your android phone can't handle a new feature its either laggy with the new os or doesn't get the new os. Sure apple abuses it the ip4 can handle siri but they needed to give people a reason to buy the new phone. It sucks but at least your phone is updated with a bunch of new features on it.

And not to mention the bug fixes come faster and the major updates are faster and older phones get updated longer because of what I just talked about. You may not like apples approach but you have to understand why some people prefer it. Some people just don't want to wait half a year for their phone to be updated to the newest os when their phone is high end and may not even come with the newest os pre installed.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:38 4

21. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I personally do no dislike their approach at all...

also can you list all of the features on iOS 5 all i can remember is:

-Notification Bar

so you got 2/3 of the new features

when you buy a Samsung HTC or Motorola phone with their custom interface you will see they already posses features included on ICS, maybe not implemented the same way as ICS but already there for example

-Improved Lock screen
sense, and TW (havent seen blur in a while) already had those features added (music playback, faster access to camera and notifications etc)

-Better selection tools
including some 2.2 devices most devices already had non stock selection tools that beat the stock android by a long shot and now are on pair with the new one

-Photo edition tools
TW and sense already include photo editing tools

-Support for rerizeable widgets and scroll able widgets
already there for quite some time

-Improved camera with new features and settings
all skins offer lots of camera features from bust mode panorama and other googles

-social contact application
is there on all skins now a stock feature

-hardware acceleration
not there

-better typography tools
not there

if I'm not mistaken non updated devices have around 6/8 of the things i have talked about. the core interference is that when apple rolls out a new feature, no official device possesses the feature, this is different in android because sometimes manufacturers are already looking into adding features of their own before Google thinks about implementing it

also manufacturers update and fix bugs too, they don't have new android builds but they keep supporting their devices with.

Google an apple point different ways when it comes to updates, its why they cant be compared of deemed inferior one from another. for example the S gingerbread special package will carry ICS features and Samsung is implementing a better way for face recognition to be even more secure on a device that will not have a software version called 4.X by any chance

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 23:01 1

25. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

More on this later but 2/3 new features?

Lol there is way more the two features...
Imessage, widgets, reminder app, camera button, photo editing tools, ota updates, newsstand, twitter integration, improved safari, wifi sync, airplay. Thats a lot and their is more too.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 04:13 1

40. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Well i remember those 3. My point is Android phones trend to have features not included in stock Android, devices come with added features and enhancements.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 07:56

42. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

to make it short

1. unlike both windows phone and iOS android offer a somewhat personal experience instead of a somewhat generic experience. no iOS device will run features not found on iOS 5, with android android phones will have features that do not exist in the 4.x user experience.

2.there is a device that gets you the latest updates, so you can choose. you want an "enhanced" experience on your android phone or you want the newest OS version as fast as possible. both choices exist on the android ecosystem yet only one exist on the other.

I know sometimes im rather redundant, but i hope i made my point a bit more clear now

posted on 09 Jun 2012, 23:54

46. DarkOverDroid (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

YThis is not meant to start an argument but, your comment about your iPhone 4 not getting siri because the older hardware can't handle it, or whatnot, isn't true at all. I also have an iPhone 4, and have successfully ported siri over to it. It runs flawless. Just as it does on the iPhone 4s. The reason Apple didn't include it in the iOS 5 update is because it was/is a major selling gimmick for the 4s. If they would have supplied Siri to the users of the older iPhone 4, then they wouldn't have a(so-called) revolutionary feature to cause people to spend the night in front their stores waiting to buy the next minor improvement. Yes, they did give the 4s a dual core processor but, it's still under clocked to 800mhz, (Seriously...lmao) for battery conservation, so they say. Good camera, yes, can't argue with that. Still, all minor improvements. High end Android devices that compete with iOS devices are way ahead of Apple in terms of.....Well, pretty much everything. Apple may have started something with the capacitive screens but, Palm, HTC/with Windows Mobile, and RIM, started the smartphone and touchscreen revolution. Apple and Google just improved upon the technology. IOS was kinda awesome in it's heyday but, it now is outdated and needs to be revised badly. If it doesn't get an overhaul within the next year or so, Apple will be headed towards a downhill slope, and the iPhone will revert back to where it originated, an iPod. iOS is boring yet overly simplified, and so damned locked down that even after jail breaking, it's still handicapped against Android. Apple is a very nice hardware and software company, and my thoughts are, if they would get their heads out of their asses, and lighten up on iOS as far as not being so locked down and limited. They would most certainly squash Android. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see this happen. Just my 2ยข. Android isn't the toy like O.S that iOS users that tried it in it's infancy thought. With Android devices being updated to Android version 4 (aka, Icecream Sandwich:)) It has become a very powerful O.S that is constantly surpassing iOS more & more with each update. Another thing I would like to bring up to those that like to claim that iOS devices are supported for a longer period than Androids. You may or may not be correct on that but, I would like to point out that, with the Android devices

posted on 10 Jun 2012, 02:22

47. DarkOverDroid (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

Continued from last post: With Android devices, updated custom or stock firmware, modified by Android community Developers, can be loaded on to older Android devices, therefore extending the life of the device by as much as 2 to 3 years. You simply can't do that with a iOS device. Once Apple ceases support for their devices, that's it. You can still use it but, as far as updating the firmware/software, if just isn't going to happen. Take for instance this... The first Android device, the HTC G1, has just recently seen it's last update, finally due to hardware limitations.(took long enough) That device made it all the way from the first Android O.S all the way to Android 2.3 Gingerbread. That's pretty good, considering how old it is, and runs a 528mhz processor with very very little memory. With an iOS device it's virtually impossible. Sure, you could still use a 1st gen iPhone, just remember, it doesn't have 3g, because Mr. Steve Jobs thought that 3g just wasn't ready. Major miscalculation on his part. With the G1, your welcome to use 3g all you want. As a matter of fact, I have a Motorola E815 flip phone that has 3g, and it came out a year or two before the iPhone. Okay I'm done......Ladies and Gentleman, Start the flaming! Whatever, I'm out. It's all true, rather you choose to believe it or not. Posted from my Verizon Wireless 4g Lte DROID RAZR MAXX. ;)

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:14 1

18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

What exactly are you reporting?

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:41 4

22. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

trolling didn't you read?

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:01 2

16. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

I prefer WP because its simpler than the others. And can't wait for Apollo!

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:15 2

19. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Going for the gusto tonight, eh Taco? Looks like you've been dying to get unbanned. The time difference between the two platforms isn't all that different. IPhone 4 owners had to wait up to a year and four months to get iOS 5.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:30 3

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

The difference is that I can update immediately when it's released. ICS was released in December and it's on less than 3% of android phones. That's not a good experience.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:45 3

23. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Why isn't it a good experience? Is Gingerbread somehow a horrible version of the OS that nobody likes? Quite the contrary; before ICS, Gingerbread was the absolutely best version of Android, and worlds better than Froyo (which, apart from introducing Flash support, was much worse than Eclair.)

If Gingerbread actually sucked, I would agree with you that four months is too slow. However, Gingerbread works very well. Also, ICS was released about a month after it was announced, while iOS 5 was released about four months after IT was announced, on a phone that wasn't worth a year and a half wait.

I'm not saying I'm completely happy with how long it's going to take for some models to get Android (July at the earliest for the Atrix, really?!) but I take it as a perfectly acceptable tradeoff for having a phone that can be almost completely different from anyone else's phone, and which is much more cost effective to own.

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 23:36 1

29. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

So you don't want timely updates? If you had a choice right now would you choose gingerbread or ICS?

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 00:00

32. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Taco you need to be reminded time and time again that Android is completely open source. That means that if you own a popular-enough phone - and it's running say 2.3.3, and 4.0 comes out - in a couple of weeks there will be zillions of custom roms with 4.0 underneath. Moreover, because these are custom roms - there is an added value to that via increased phone performance and uniuque custom-rom features.

Moreover, the Android market (and all of the internet) gets flooded with Android 4.0 ICS look-alikes, themes, specific third party solutions, etc etc.

That means that if somehow google decided to become evil, and release a software product for just one specific device (just like Apple did with the 4S), that software, and countless imitations would almost instantly be available to any Android phone physically capable of running it.

Steve Jobs said that focus is to say 'No'. He was right. We can't blame him for his decisions when he was CEO, since he came to a dying company in 97 and pulled it out of the grave. But times have changed. Apple can allow itself to make a grand jesture to all it's users, and make iOS and MacOSX Open source - and still make huge profits out of it. They can embrace cydia, and call it the iTweak store, or something like that. But no. All of us know that they won't. Google vs Apple is like a war between democracy and dictatorship. It doesn't really matter which is ultimately more successful in the short run - it matters which is genuinely better overall.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 00:11

35. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Actually, it's more like a war between anarchy and a dictatorship. There is very little force involved between Google, the manufacturers and the end users/developers.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 00:22 1

36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Apple makes money on hardware so it would make no sense to open source their OS. Dictatorship and democracy?! Lol aren't you being a little dramatic? No one is forced to use iOS. People CHOOSE iPhones because they like them.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 00:08 1

33. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Of course I would choose ICS, but I want working ICS, not rushed and buggy ICS.

And guess what? My Atrix runs ICS right now. That's right, bitches-I rooted that s**t.

Again I reiterate: I want the newer software, but I take the longer wait for that newer software as an acceptable tradeoff for a phone that still does about as much as the latest iPhone software.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 00:09

34. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Of course I would choose ICS, but I want working ICS, not rushed and buggy ICS.

And guess what? My Atrix runs ICS right now. That's right, bitches-I rooted that s**t.

Again I reiterate: I want the newer software, but I take the longer wait for that newer software as an acceptable tradeoff for a phone that still does about as much as the latest iPhone software.

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 02:15 1

39. xfire99 (Posts: 946; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)

I rather stay at a stabile version then udate to a new version with full of bugs. Like what iOS 5x did:
- Bad battery
- No Siri?
- 3GS sluggish and non working at all.
- Deleted files
bla bla

Who want a timely update, that causing more problems then working uh?

posted on 03 Apr 2012, 09:22

45. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

See what happen's taco has nothing
to say...... He dosn't wana admit?????

No matter what he is still is will
remain a hardcore Apple ifan!!!!!

TACO love's life in prison.
He has been sentenced to life with
no parole.

We live life in freedom......

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