iPhone X Face ID can only recognize 1 face

The new Face ID on the Apple iPhone X only supports one face, so it will not be possible to share your phone easily with a family member or a friend...
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48. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Face unlock on my surface pro 4 is pretty hit or miss and slow. To be fair, so is the FPS on the touch cover. The iris scanner in my GS8 is fantastic though. They just need to solve the super bright situations and the iris scanning while moving and I would use it over a fps. Google Pixel so far has the best implementation of FPS at the moment. But I don't think face is that far off. I doubt this Face id is going to be as flawless as they say though just because the face has to be a certain distance and a lot of people can't judge it perfectly a lot of the time. Face it, we humans suck at a lot of things including spatial judgements.

29. yann

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

More secure? Because Apple told you so? Guess what - all companies that implement security measures take fingerprints, card ID, iris scanner, but no one implement so far face id. Do you think that Pentagon or MI6 or other intelligence company is so behind Apple, to implement it already?

30. bobby84

Posts: 595; Member since: May 13, 2016

It's slower to unlock, it's about the same speed as my iris scanner

34. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Just as fast, I don't believe at all. Many tech sites who used it, says it takes 1-2 seconds to unlock. Also, why is it more secure? Your face is less unique than your fingerprint.

42. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

Fingerprints aren't that unique... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM1QgwaKv4s

64. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

If you saw the video he states there is no scientific proof they are unique. But he didn't provide evidence they aren't either. And I didn't say they are unique only that faces are less unique, especially with plastic surgery. Besides because of the size of the finger print sensor, chances are that someone matches your fingerprint.

51. sgodsell

Posts: 7367; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Don't forget that if you wear a hat, or (sun) glasses, scarfs, beards, mustaches, forget to cut those nose hairs for a week. Also woman wear different lip sticks, or make their lips look bigger with makeup, and the same holds true for their eyes as well. There is so many things that can change on the same human face from day to day. It will never be as fast or as convenient as a fingerprint scanner.

65. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Since it uses infrared and 30.000 points on your face to create a 3d model, things like beards, makeup, moustaches won't matter that much. Glasses and scarfs obviously do, but that's like saying fingerprint scanner isn't as accurate because it doesn't work with gloves on. But I do agree I doubt it will be as convenient or fast as a FPS

69. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"but that's like saying fingerprint scanner isn't as accurate because it doesn't work with gloves on." Yeah, but the Galaxy S8's FPS works with gloves on... Just saying.

70. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

No, it doesn't. The touchscreen works with gloves on, the FPS does not.

71. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I did read one poster in here claim his works with thin gloves. I never tried, so I don't know. Also, how thin?

73. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

I think if it really worked with gloves, even thin ones, it would have been all over the internet. Because it would be a marvel of technical ingenuity if they would make that work.

80. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Apparently it does.

82. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Yet I have seen no proof that it does work

4. Derekjeter

Posts: 1489; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

See this is what I was talking about, then removing the finger print sensor is a huge mistake. My kids have access to my phone and so does my wife. I was genuinely excited for the X but as time goes by I don’t think I will be buying one. I love Touch ID, I have it perfectly set up for my accounts, app and purchases. I don’t want to lose it. Looks like I’ll be keeping my 7 Plus. So disappointed

6. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

You can still buy the 8. iPhone 8, Galaxy S8, Note 8. 8 doesn't matter.

11. Derekjeter

Posts: 1489; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

I thought about upgrading to the 8, but I don’t want these huge bezels anymore, I want a phone just like the X but with a finger print Sensor in the front and stereo speakers in the front also, is that too much to ask for?

63. bobby84

Posts: 595; Member since: May 13, 2016

Well being a iphone user you should be use to settling and waiting for great stuff! If that ever happens. So why complain now? vote with your wallet. Cause what gonna happen is you will buy it anyway

38. CableTelcontar

Posts: 94; Member since: Nov 19, 2014

in the Rock's voice "8 doesn't matter!!!"

7. mikehunta727 unregistered

At launch only Face ID will work with just one face, but will have support in the future for being able to register multiple faces

9. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Does that make sense to you?

10. mikehunta727 unregistered

What do you mean? That's what Apple said.

13. Derekjeter

Posts: 1489; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

It’s good to know they will add that in the near future, but I still prefer Touch ID. Face ID and all the other face recognition systems are all gimmicks. You saw how it failed on the presentation.

18. mikehunta727 unregistered

Wouldn't put much on the on-stage presentation. Early hands on from a few sites are reporting fairly positive things about the scanner; i.e a pretty generous viewing angle range and pretty accurate, but the unlock swipe up method after using your face is a bit cumbersome Even FP scanners from time to time fail a few times in a row for me, usually wiping the oil from the button/finger works but I don't think it will be a big deal at all

37. CHP19

Posts: 50; Member since: Jun 23, 2017

Fairly positive isn't exactly convincing now is it. I've read accounts from sites (for example Tweakers which is quite a neutral site) where the FaceID demonstration by the Apple representative failed numerous times. This to the point she actually had to use her code and reset FaceID, after which she unlocked the phone a few time again with it failing one more time. It looks like there is still quite a bit of work to be done. They also mentioned you actually had to tilt your device and have your face central in the frame or else it won't work. According to the Apple representative this is because of security reasons. But I imagine it will get annoying pretty quickly, especially because there's no handy backup method (TouchID) for when your face isn't central in the frame. So all in all it seems like it isn't on point at this moment in time. Maybe they'll fix some of those things before launch, but this is the kind of thing that has to work everytime without a hassle or people will get annoyed with it pretty fast.

40. mikehunta727 unregistered

I saw it fail once on stage. But the early hands on experience from some who where there are saying that it actually works quite well ans has a generous viewing angle range FP scanners fail too from time to time (oily sensor/finger/etc) so really I think they are similar in terms of hit or miss

41. CHP19

Posts: 50; Member since: Jun 23, 2017

The demonstration by the Apple representative I was talking about was not the on stage one. :) Just to make that clear. It was afterwards. Well that's why I countered your post with this experience. It seems like some had quite good impressions while others hadn't. Or in other words there's still some work to be done because this needs to work flawlessly or else people will get irritated by it quickly (even more so than with failing fingerprint sensors). Btw the reasoning behind that is because for this you actually already had to do an action (bring it up to your face) and if it then fails it's simply more annoying then when it's effortless like just putting your finger on a button.

45. sissy246

Posts: 7111; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Agree, and no, I am not just saying that because I am not a fan. Apple had the perfect place to put a FPS and that was in the back in the apple logo. It would have been a cool place.

72. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Ideally having the choice of either or both would be best.

36. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Why do that, unless it's not ready for prime time.
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