Here is why Apple removed the 3.5mm headset jack from the new iPhone 7

"It was fighting for space with camera technologies and processors and battery life. And frankly, when there’s a better, modern solution available, it’s crazy to keep it around"...
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206. criss

Posts: 8; Member since: Sep 16, 2016

According to many here, there are two types of greed: "standard" greed, which is, for some reason, acceptable. And there's "Apple Greed™", which is more greedy, for some reason.

103. Rocket

Posts: 642; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

the problem removing that is that in the future we will have lots of people with ear cancer.

105. jove39

Posts: 2145; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Truth be told...I already use over the ear Bluetooth headphones at home...for outside I ordered in ear headphones day before yesterday. And believe me Bluetooth audio quality is no where near the wired headphones. If I want to enjoy movie/song I use wired Sony xba4. Bluetooth audio is good for calls & listening news.

165. k4ever

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 08, 2014

I'm in the same boat. I use bluetooth in the gym and in my truck (on short trips) for the convenience. However, when I'm at home or traveling (as a passenger) I used wired headphones; they just sound better. I would lose my mind if I didn't have a headphone jack on my phone.

116. PhoneFix

Posts: 81; Member since: Aug 30, 2016

Moving forward? This will be moving BACKWARD.. because of rip off price! When iphone will cost e.g. 400 bucks? Or less.? NEVER.. Ape digging their own grave same as Sony.. Apple just want to be like sony was for 30 years.. But apple not realising they doing same error as sony and soon they will fall into their grave.. Simply because of their ~anti christ ridiculosu money/prices

207. criss

Posts: 8; Member since: Sep 16, 2016

When headphone makers will start making headphones with Lightning or USB-C plugs, noone will say that it was a "backward" move.

124. james2841

Posts: 167; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

I have a couple pairs (8) wireless headphones and for all of the ones without a removable wire (3 out of 8) I simply bought Female 1/4 in ports and drilled a hole, soldered some stuff and made it wired. I dont think I have ever used the wireless feature in a long time. It is much better in my opinion to use wired over wireless.

155. belovedson

Posts: 1060; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

Why don't you back up your opinions with some links. I don't think you have any idea what you smoking about

159. kryme

Posts: 468; Member since: Oct 24, 2013

But why give an adapter for the same thing u trying to get rid of... They did it to make money... That's the only reason...

179. Riderocket

Posts: 17; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

This is amazing how this pointless argument is almost 2 pages long! Do you all realize you're arguing over "phones". Get a life.

184. swh0812

Posts: 14; Member since: Sep 10, 2016

It's not Apple's job to decide if I should get a headphone jack or not. It's simply a phone maker, not a dictator of the marketplace. If people don't want a headphone jack, they would've asked for it to be removed. However, they didn't which is why there's such backlash at Apple which doesn't just want to make a phone but control every aspect of it. Incidentally, Apple just happens to be making $160 pair of wireless headphones which only last 4 hours on a charge and easily losable so you can buy another $160 pair from Apple. The dongle is easy to lose as well which Apple figures it can cash in on too. And Apple is going to charge headphone makers royalties to connect to its lightning jack. This has zero to do with 'pushing' the market and everything to do with Apple forcing you to buy more of its products, just like its silly lightning jack which it forced customers to buy. Since Apple's sales and market share having been falling, its trying every way to squeeze profits out of its customers, even resorting to bullying tactics like this one!

32. KParks23

Posts: 722; Member since: Oct 13, 2010

160$ for airpods they must of lost there Fn mind!!!

70. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Same thing I said about Samsung Icon X. They cost $199. But when I went to a VZW storage to return my first pair of Note 7's before this battery issue came. I tried them out and I liked them so I bought them. I dont care about price all the time. But when I looked at what you get, the pros for me outweighed its 2 major cons. Battery-life is terrible for the price. But when I ride I carry my wired beats anyways. But the Icon X wont fall out my ears.

185. swh0812

Posts: 14; Member since: Sep 10, 2016

And that's a choice you made to buy wireless headphones but Samsung, nor any other phone maker makes that choice for you. Only Apple figures it knows better what you want than you do. In truth, this has nothing to do with courage or Apple predicting the future just more bullying from Apple, dictating to its customers what they can get and what they can get, and forcing them to buy insanely, overpriced, and frankly not that great headphones

106. jove39

Posts: 2145; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

This product should cost no more than $49.99

55. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

Wireless headphones are the thing of the future. Gradually we will see every OEM shifting to it. Apple is not the only one. Lenovo has also done it on Moto z. Now as apple and Lenovo has taken this step, it has opened a way for other OEM. Apple is not for forcing anyone to pay for it. If you can afford it, you buy it. It is as simple as that. If you cannot , then use your current headphone.

118. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Well you are mostly right beside one fact. If you want best quality sound you wont use an adaptor everyone who know how sound system ect work will tell you the more adaptor you have to change cable type ect the less quality you get. thats the first issue. Second issue is if you want to use one with cable and no adaptor you have to pay for new headphone with proprietary plug. This mean if you pay 500$ for those headphone to get very good one its will lock you even more in apple ecosystem because you wont be able to switch to usb type c phone and use them ( unless you use an adaptor ) IF apple would at least use the same standard as everyone ( USB Type C ) its would be a start.

125. james2841

Posts: 167; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

That is why I cant imagine myself using a Moto Z, even if it was free.

126. cheetah2k

Posts: 2221; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Apple = excuses excuses.. Nothing but excuses.. Oh wait, we removed something for your benefit! Everyone knows wired audio is the best. Apple trying to spin the BS again that it isn't.. Useless fks

186. swh0812

Posts: 14; Member since: Sep 10, 2016

Kind of reminds me of the BS with Antennagate, claiming there was nothing wrong with the phone rather customers were holding them the wrong way. I must admit Apple has some serious cajones, telling customers Apple faulty manufacturing are actually customer issues, and telling customers they must buy Apple's wares by taking away items every other phone makers has

154. schinnak

Posts: 116; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Yes, its all about money and pushing proprietary stuff as Apple has been doing for years. Heck - they didnt even improve the bezels and screen to body ratio. In most promotion they just keep showing the back side of the phone - almost as if they are embarrassed to show the front.

2. ctdog4748

Posts: 797; Member since: Mar 05, 2016

Wired headphones are dinosaurs, slowing dying out. Wireless is the future, and thumbs up to Apple for embracing that fact. Looking forward to getting my Jet Black iPhone 7 Plus.

7. ItsTheJuan unregistered

That's like making a 4k tv and saying it can only play 4k.

11. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

No it's not. With the new iphones, you can still use your old headsets with the adapter. That kills your theory.

30. talon95

Posts: 994; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

No, that would be buying a special filter that you place on the 4k display to reduce the resolution back to 1080p. I'm curious, since the lightning port is digital if the adapter cable has a DAC in it, and of what quality it is, in order to make the old dinosaurs roar. (or if the dinosaurs just meow now) They claim the adapter is a fix, but is it a high quality fix?

48. drazwy

Posts: 354; Member since: Jan 15, 2014

I would suspect using the adapter isn't going to be digital. I'm not sure anyone knows yet, but i'm guessing the adapter is a pass through device and it will force use of the internal DAC in the phone, and analog will pass through the lightning pins, which might explain some of the limitations with charging and listening at the same time. A splitter would be easy, signal rejection from the analog pins might prove to be more problematic.

129. james2841

Posts: 167; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

It does not appear that the lightning connector does pass-through. It most likely has a DAC inside the connector like apple's thunderbolt connector: or

107. jove39

Posts: 2145; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

What? All you need is 3 pins for audio and one or more pins for control signal and lightning port has more than 3 pins. Left-Right-Mic. That's it. You can transfer whatever signal you want over lightning port.

10. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If Apple removed the screen you'd be here calling screens dinosaurs.

24. OnlyTruth unregistered

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