Here is why Apple removed the 3.5mm headset jack from the new iPhone 7

"It was fighting for space with camera technologies and processors and battery life. And frankly, when there’s a better, modern solution available, it’s crazy to keep it around"...
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148. Mxyzptlk unregistered

You're breaching into audiophile territory, which is a niche market in the smartphone world.

153. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Most android flagships are heading towards the audiophile territory, some are already there...its not a niche market anymore. Who's lagging behind? iPhone with it's jackless 7. And that is what Apple's giving you.

171. Mxyzptlk unregistered

No they aren't. The V20 is experimental. The HTC phones were a gamble and needed something to stand out. Even still, most of the audio focused phones mostly just have dual ffs with a few like the Alcatel phones having technology from JBL.

174. BobbyDigital

Posts: 2124; Member since: May 29, 2014

V20 isn't experimental at all. You sound ridiculous. Don't comment on things you know nothing about.

177. JohnCorleone

Posts: 3; Member since: Nov 26, 2012

The HTC 10 has a 24 bit amplified DAC audio chip that can push car stereos or $300 headphones! It is the best sounding phone ever made and a few carriers immediately followed. They finally brought a great camera, oh the USB 3.0 can also be used for music and do a full charge in an hour at most! I AVERAGE 28-35 hours per charge with over SEVEN hours of screen on time now going on 54 consecutive days! HTC hit a home run and so did a few other carriers.. but that Note 7 is ON FIRE!!! lun intended obviously..

200. Manggo

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 14, 2016

Wired for the best audio quality , wireless for charging it's very convenient , btw. Most hphone have bluetooth, now ver. 4 nothing new

47. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

"The 3.5mm jack was an obstacle in the way of making the iPhone 7 water-proof" I didn't see Sony ditching the jack for jacka$$es!

110. Mxyzptlk unregistered

You also don't see Sony selling that many phones let alone continue to support them.

111. Mxyzptlk unregistered

And that comment is also aimed at the 18 users who have no idea what they're talking about.

115. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

what do this have to do with the fact its easy to waterproof a 3.5mm jack? Stop deflecting.

149. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I'm not deflecting. It's just Android fans who continue to show their ignorance.

152. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

You're going to sales now? That's your last resort, always! Apple fans go back to sales everytime they are cornered! You're the ignorant one here! The standard is 3.5mm jack for listening to music...not Bluetooth, that's an accessory and the lightning port, that's proprietary. Like i said, if there's a replacement for the 3.5, it better be good, or atleast, on par with it.

175. BobbyDigital

Posts: 2124; Member since: May 29, 2014

Nah. You're deflecting. And its blind iPhone sheep like you that are ignorant. Can't ever admit when Apple either does something wrong or just goes for the money grab.

128. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

So they will sell better if they remove the jack? It's still a fact that they did have an audio jack while being waterproof and have stereo audio. Stop defending Apple whatever they do, you're starting to look desperate.

163. k4ever

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 08, 2014

Well Samung didn't ditch the headphone jack for their waterproof phones (which are rated better than the iPhone 7). Samsung sells twice as many phones as Apple and Samsung customers like their phones so much they would even risk them catching on fire than buy an iPhone (sorry, had to throw that out there).

16. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2340; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I have to admit I recently bought some bluetooth headphones and I can't imagine going back to the old wired ones. I now have the freedom to move around without being tied down to my device, and it also is just generally more comfortable to walk around without a wire getting in your way. Bluetooth headphones still have a long way to go in terms of audio quality, but that's a small price to pay for the convenience and freedom it gives you.

23. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Are you really saying that a huge downgrade in audio quality is a "small price to pay"??? WTF

28. kiko007

Posts: 7493; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

And you know it's a huge (yuge!!!!!!....for the Trump supporters) downgrade because?

65. mahima

Posts: 727; Member since: Nov 20, 2014

this is trojan horse of apple

68. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

You should bring forth your rebuttal (if you actually have any), rather than focusing on my username. Or, did you just want my attention?

92. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Because my old senheiser thats cost me like 85$ ( over the ear headphone with a cable lol ) are like 20 time better than the best beats wireless one at like 400$ if not more.

35. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Audio quality is debatable. Most streaming and downloaded music are mostly compressed, you must have "trained" ears to tell the difference using either wired or wireless. The only drawback I dislike about wireless is battery. I have enough devices to charge everyday, adopting another will be a pain in the arse. I have my everyday earbuds which I just plug in and play. Thats two step. With wireless, I have to open connectivity, turn on the wireless, pair, play and after charge it. Thats 5 step. And if your earpiece accidentally drops, wired can just dangle over you while wireless may drop then break or maybe lose one of the pairs. Convenience beats the wireless. It's Apple's solution to a problem no one has.

164. k4ever

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 08, 2014

Audio quality is not debatable. Wired sounds better than wireless. Even folks without trained ears can tell the difference. However, this argument is not solely about wireless vs wired, it is also about convience and choice. Other manufacturers have figured out how to make their phones thinner, waterproof, and have a much larger batter than the iPhone while maintaining the headphone jack. Are you telling us that the supposedly most advanced technology company on the planet couldn't do the same. Those other manufacturers also put better bluetooth technology in their phones, better stereo speakers, and still maintain the headphone jack giving their users more options than Apple. This is a major failure on Apple's part.

201. Manggo

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 14, 2016

They don't bother about sound quality and argued that it is convenient, the truth is the calture that apple burn in them is " look people are looking , you're cool" syndrome. Sad end of the day applehead still had to poke the lighting under , rather then just drop on a wireless charging tray

38. drazwy

Posts: 354; Member since: Jan 15, 2014

We've been doing that for years. Some would argue we've been downgrading our audio quality since vinyl. I personally prefer lossless digital but mp3s, aac. bleh. Then bluetooth and god awful Satellite radio. The overwhelming vast majority of the younger generations, haven't ever heard a clean, accurate, full spectrum audio reproduction. It's an unfortunate fact of life, and the move won't put a dent in sales.

168. miketer

Posts: 513; Member since: Apr 02, 2015

Perfect comment,I second that

202. Manggo

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 14, 2016

I concur, that's the reason when smart device that were aim for productivity declined and became a niche product eg. Blackberry and windows phone , some maker still try to balance between productivity and entertainment while apple focus solely on young generation, entertainment and drift away from professional into the hips calture

44. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

I agree. While some people use headset for calling purpose, the main reason for 3.5 mm jack is music and sound production. And for me, if a replacement in fact takes place, I want it to be better, or atleast on par with wired ones.

62. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Yep, bruh. It does more harm than good, and has more cons than pros. The best Bluetooth headphone sounds like crap compared to my Sony MDR-1A 3.5mm jack headphone.

80. therealestmc

Posts: 679; Member since: Jul 23, 2012

The iPhone is not the device for great audio quality anyways. It doesn't matter how good the headphone is ehen all audio files s**tty to begin with.
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