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HTC vs Samsung: Why HTC is losing the fight big time

0. phoneArena posted on 09 Aug 2012, 05:48

Up until recently, HTC meant much more than it means now in the Android universe. It was a big factor. HTC's smartphones stood for quality, reliability and experience that are unmatched by any other Android manufacturer...

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posted on 10 Aug 2012, 10:53

148. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

Doublehammer you clearly haven't held any of the s series devices in your hand. The one s is the thinnest phone out there and its weight is light as a feather the screen is the same in comparison to the s3. Speed the one s has a slight edge. And the build quality is way better. Don't just read things actually test these devices before you post a comment. I myself once again go through 4 phones a month. I Always come back to my iphone cuz its reliablity but HTC makes the droid by far. Sammy is behind in that matter if only u actually used these devices.....and try to.make a folder on the s3 pain inthe ads. One s simply drag it over another app like on ios Walla u have a folder.....

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 10:55 1

149. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

My keyboard always auto corrects me so please save the comments about me not knowing how to spell....

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 12:36 1

150. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)

This guy who wrote this article is very biased...... LOOK- Samsung touch wiz is dull. SENSE is revolutionary. Samsung S3's build quality is bad- even with its ''poly carbonate'', and it does'nt even cares about the build quality issue. As for HTC, Quality is its first policy!

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 16:12

153. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

Very true Raymond

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 19:16 1

154. Thullraven (Posts: 26; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)

I have an upgrade due. Don't like Samsung's build quality so wanted the HTC One X on AT&T. Then I found out it had a non removable battery and only 16gb storage. Well, that killed it for me. I could deal with a non removable battery if it was long lasting (it isn't). Even if the battery life was just OK, I could change out batteries, but not with this phone. I could deal with no SD Card slot if the internal storage is at least 32gb(it isn't). HTC screwed over potential buyers of this phone with it's limitations I mentioned. The UI issue was never much of an issue. I have a Motorola Atrix 4G with Motoblur. It really is no concern. I downloaded Go Launcher and use that instead. And you can't compare anybody's radio strength and antenna to Moto. All the features on't mean squat if you can't get a signal. But I was excited (then letdown) by the HTC One X and really wanted it.

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 19:51 1

155. chaosnightmare (Posts: 181; Member since: 20 May 2010)

Everyone is free to choise wich phone fits them better and some peolpe just don't care about desing, UI or eye candy factor, since those are android devices a custom rom can always be installed, same for third party apps, we are talking about smartphones, so I think its all about features and specs, SGS3 and last samsung flagships performed better than competition, and its not about being fanboy, as soon as other brands offer edge specs and innovation I'll be after that

posted on 10 Aug 2012, 20:12

156. KFear (Posts: 147; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)

I work at 4 different Sprint service and repair locations and I can say that customers come in with HTC devices A LOT more. Their hardware breaks down much more easily. Many customers will never by another HTC device, yet even the users that a little displeased with samsung are still attracted to the S3 and still S2. Both are great phones, but people are right, Samsung needs to make their devices more premium feeling. The S3 doesn't feel bad, just not "premium". IMO

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 03:32

157. jibraihimi (Posts: 770; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

HTC didn't see it coming(or maybe they did, but they were too arrogant to change)................ First of all they are putting low powered battery in their phones, which is not enough to carry with Android and their sense for whole day. Second they are making Battery non user replaceable; if they want to make their phone unibody, with no user replaceable battery, then they should have atleast put 2500 mh battery in One X. Third they made their phone without expandable memory, most of consumer, want option for expandable memory, and they don't want to rely on cloud, for getting their data, because if they are on holiday at place where network coverage is bad, then it's real pain to get ur data from cloud................... HTC was thinking that it has become bigger than any player in android, so they can make devices with restrictions and people will flock to buy it. Samsung is smart in this sense, becoz it atleast listen to consumer and give them phones with all the features that they want( except the phones with premium build materials).

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 14:26

163. gtrxman (Posts: 130; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)

Gotta disagree on the SD card. I can't remember the last time I took out my SD card. It's pretty useless to swap out a card if you save any app data to the card. Every time you switch cards, the apps crash. For me, I'm all for supplying more space on board and forgetting about the SD card.

As far as removable batteries are concerned, they're useful, but mostly unnecessary if the phone can go a whole day without a charge. My MAXX regularly goes from 8AM to 11PM and finishes the day at around 30%-40% battery. That should be good for most anyone. If HTC (and all other manufacturers) used performance like that as a benchmark, they, and we, would be better off.

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 06:18

158. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

But this is the reason the the one x camera is so good. Fact shows that a phone that has a exspandable memory won't oporate as smoothly. For instance HTC did testing of this. Theyve been working on a lot of new camera technologies for a while now. If they didn't linot you in these aspects they're camera wouldn't be as great as it is. The continuous shot doesn't play well when the phone is reading mass storage device. You know when you turn you're phone on and u see that on the doc bar? This is why HTC did this. It's actually a good thing. and who the hell needs more than 16 gigs? I've literally used Delphi, since the s2. I've lost nothing. HTC did this to make a better phone. so if you're going for specs go HTC once again. its a better phone.

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 14:21 1

161. Thullraven (Posts: 26; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)

I would be OK without expandable memory, if it was bigger than 16gb, of which about 11gb is for the user to add apps and media. That is nothing. And cloud storage is useless to people on tiered data, which is most people. Than they made it worse with a small non removable battery. Bad move all around. It's a shame, because I had wanted the One X bad.

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 06:20 1

159. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

Wtf I hate this keyboard.....Delphi is dropbox, and linot is limit. smh

posted on 11 Aug 2012, 14:18 2

160. gtrxman (Posts: 130; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)

I really was hoping for the One to be a great phone, HTC has been missing the mark so much lately. I think the fixes are pretty easy though:
1) There should be no lag in a top tier phone, period. Sense is a very heavy skin and it drags the phone down. Not saying that Sense is bad, but if you're gonna saddle the phone with a heavy OS, then give it the RAM it deserves. Look at the S3 with 2GB

2) HTC has a bad rep over their lousy battery life. There is no excuse for a poor battery in any top tier phone. HTC's famous survey finding that customers want thin phones has led them further down this path (but even the brick Thunderbolt had a really bad battery). I think that 9mm is thin enough for any phone. If Motorola can engineer a thin RAZR max, then so can HTC make a phone with at least a 2500 mh battery.

3) Do like Samsung and Apple and stop making phones special to the carrier. This will streamline production costs and allow for brand and model recognition.

3) Don't fix what isn't broken. The browser on this phone is not very good. There are plenty of good third party browsers out there. Why not supply the stock browser without enhancements, or maybe bundle Chrome or Dolphin, and stop wasting development dollars on a browser.

4) Good move unloading Beats Audio. Nothing but a worthless EQ curve. Fire the guy that OK'd that investment. Invest in a quality DA chip and define yourself as a company that actually cares about what the media sounds like. Maybe publish some audiophile specs on your phones so that people will know that you make a quality product.

posted on 13 Aug 2012, 05:05

165. Mehrzad (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

I like my Galaxy S3's design ,I have big hands it's really comfortable to hold, I think people with small hands will have problem to work with SGS3, I can hold it,unlock, and do my stuffs even with one hand

posted on 13 Aug 2012, 15:12

166. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 525; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

i agree with a lot this article said, and there are probably many things that HTC (or, really ANY other OEM) could improve upon. But even after all of this i am pretty much an HTC loyalist. i've had all HTC smartphones, and although i actively look into other manufacturers and other phones i always come home to HTC.

although i have to say that the One series isn't a part of my comment because A: being on Verizon we don't have the HTC One series. and B: lack of removable battery/external storage is really a turn off to me. and C: i really don't want a phone with a screen larger than 4".

so even through all of that, the Incredible 4g is my absolute Dream phone!
gotta love that S4 processor too

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 01:41

167. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1035; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

The biggest factor to me is how good the phone feels in my hand. It's going to be there a lot and should feel natural to hold. The Incredible 2 and the Sensation 4G are exactly that and I haven't ever held a phone as good as those 2. I do agree that HTC hasn't had the best strategy/timing lately. Although I do hope that they will recover and start putting out better phones. MicroSD, removable battery, and less than 2.6" wide are non-negotiable for me.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 10:50

168. ftyler223 (Posts: 140; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)

Ilikebubbles Verizon does have a one series phone they just named it the incredible 4g. It's a nice phone check it out

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 14:14

169. Thullraven (Posts: 26; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)

Still checking things out but I may get a GS3 if the price goes lower. I might have to wait a bit, which is fine. Meantime, I'll go to my Motorola Atrix 4G. I know it is older, but it is still pretty fast, has a 32gb microSD slot, a removable battery, and encryption, not to mention a great antenna. I can get a signal anywhere with the Atrix. i'll see what plays out as time goes by. Might even decide to stay with the Atrix after it gets it's ICS update later this year. I hear that HTC is releasing another version of the One X with 32gb storage instead of 16 gb. If that happens, I might look into that.

posted on 15 Aug 2012, 13:00 1

171. oister85 (Posts: 501; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)

The reason I the s3 over the 1x is
1 no micro SD
2 better internet
3 s3 has 2gb of ram 1x only has one

posted on 15 Aug 2012, 17:29

172. dreamdestiny910 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)

I do see what phone arena are talking about. I believe its down to user experience more than anything. the gs3 does feel easier to use and more slick, however htc sense is much nicer to look at and use than touchwiz.
Funny thing is alot of the user experience problems and browser issues that were mentioned have recently been addressed by htc with the 4.0.4 sense 4.1 update.
I have both the gs3 and the one x and i have to say the one x looks nicer and the screen is better. also built in apps are much better.. take the message app for example, looks so much better on sense, email is another app which looks awful on touchwiz an is sometimes unresponsive and not nice to use, sense email is the best on android peroid. I could go on, but honestly the browser, battery life, and flexibilty ( card slot etc) is plus points for the s3 for me and thats it. I use the one x as my main phone

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 02:09 1

174. Seannyc (Posts: 59; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)

HTC and Samsung phones are all very cheap material, thats why i pefer using motorola and nokia. Old fashion phone companys still got the best material, while these new phones claiming how good they are use cheap a** plastic and put a $650+ price tag on them.

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 03:00

175. flyguyjai (Posts: 3; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

I feel like phonearena needs a better comment approval system. Seriously though.

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 03:15

176. flyguyjai (Posts: 3; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

The fact is this: hTC has been pushed to the side by the mainstream hogging Galaxy series. hTC had a head start with the G1, but focus has been placed on Samsungs devices. The oneX is a smooth piece of equipment that is super sleek, solid, and sexy. The original HD2 and EVO were a huge success when they first hit the scene. Even with the Beats By Dre, (which are awesome by the way), sound enhancements the Samsung Galaxy sIII has the spotlight.

hTC I know the trick. COPY APPLE.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 19:06 1

177. RicoNZ (Posts: 11; Member since: 19 Aug 2012)

I'm currently waiting to see if the black version of the SGS3 is to be released, if not then the blue will suffice.

My next phone won't be an HTC. My current phone is an HTC Desire HD, which has not received any Android updates from HTC since Gingerbread and won't be receiving any further updates, despite being identical to the Incredible S.

For a former flagship device like this to be left behind like this leaves me with a very bad taste from HTC. I'm not going to purchase another flagship device from HTC for the possibility that it's lifespan in updates less than 2 years.

Goodbye HTC. Hi Samsung, what you got to offer?

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 07:06

183. BadAsh786 (Posts: 2; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)

Totally agree with you from another fellow Desire HD Owner I think its goodbye HTC From me too. Real shame as I like their devices too.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 18:42

178. Thullraven (Posts: 26; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)

Went to my unlocked Motorola Atrix 4G from my BB Torch 9810 and loving it!!. replaced Motoblur with Go Launcher, have great build quality, strong antenna, great call quality, and encrytion like my BB. This may not be the latest and greatest, but it is still plenty fast, secure, has a removable battery, and a microSd slot. I played with a Samsung GS3 that my friend has, It's got great software, but felt like a toy and very fragile. I also couldn't find any security features (encrytion). I think I'll stick with my Moto for now and see what comes out later.

posted on 22 Aug 2012, 09:36 1

179. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)

Phonearena, once again, prove to be an ''expert'' in business and markets. Amazing...How many times do u need to be reminded, that making simple reviews is the best you do, and any other effort you make is destined to a failure, because you have proven to posess an undereducated team for more complicated articles? Are you market analyst specialists, or maybe Harvard graduates? I really doubt so, by the materials you expose in your site.

posted on 23 Aug 2012, 05:14 1

180. chenweiweasel (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Aug 2010)

as reported (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-remains-de​af-to-Galaxy-S-III-build-quality-issues_id33091) S3 have problems related to its build quality!

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 07:04

182. BadAsh786 (Posts: 2; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)

I really Love my HTC Desire HD, coming up to renewing my contract next month and really wanted to stick with HTC never had a problem with this phone, dropped it so many times and still works fine, would have been nice to have gotten ICS to give it a much needed new lease of life towards the run up to my upgrade. With the latest model having no removal battery and no micro sd card slot its a BIG mistake imo. Think for this reason the fact that HTC did not give users the option of a software update for the Desire HD when its more than capable of running it and the fact that the One X has no SD Slot or removable battery i am swaying towards a Samsung Galaxy S3 as much as I dislike their build quality, or maybe a Windows phone.

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