x PhoneArena is hiring! Reviewer in the USA
  • Options

HTC sues Apple using nine patents received from Google

0. phoneArena posted on 07 Sep 2011, 17:49

Nine patents that started life at Motorola, Palm and Openwave Systems and recently belonged to Google, were transferred to HTC on September 1st which allows the Taiwan based firm to fight back against Apple with another law suit...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 21:12 1

32. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)

You honestly believe micro will keep thier little "friendship" with apple if they have a chance a the top spot....you need a reality check on how big business works

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 18:50 1

19. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Htc has a right to protect their intellectual property i dont blame them for suing. I am interested in knowing what their patents are. This sucks for me though as i love htc/apple products.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 18:58 2

20. theBankRobber (unregistered)

How is Google the biggest loser, they are only doing what Apple started doing to them. Apple is trying to ban every manufacture that makes android devices from being sold in the USA and other countries. Google has every right to protect themselves, just like how Apple teamed up with microsft and rim and got the patients to screw over Google, so why not buy Motorola and use those patients to protect the Android platform.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 19:07 8

21. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Remember seeing their new IOS 5 it have a notification bar? COPY CAT right off from Android OS with it's7 page zoom

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 19:32 6

24. krysis (Posts: 76; Member since: 14 Dec 2009)

hopefully the courts will just get tired of all this and something will be done to the patent system, because this is getting really ridiculous.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 22:33 4

38. cncrim (Posts: 910; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


I don't like to see any product get ban, it is way too harsh, on other hand Apple is the one start it. And I just like to see Apple taste of what they had created. Then at the end Apple learn not to crazy that one day the same game come back and bite them, end of all all company seat down and work with every other company to make better product.

To me, if a copycate is personate what you are doing then sue them for the damage plus $ on each device its sold.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 06:13 1

59. krysis (Posts: 76; Member since: 14 Dec 2009)

it's just silly. i mean what would happen if car manufacturers all started suing each other because the other vehicle sits on 4 wheels and has a steering wheel and comes with a horn? your car has a moon roof? patent infringement!

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 20:07 3

27. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

Apple finally get what's coming for em!!
atta boy HTC!!
tho i haven't bought and product from you since the OG Desire, I still love you!

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 20:45 1

31. Penny (Posts: 1672; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)

I agree with all of you saying that this is a ridiculous continuation of the current patent wars, but come on...you know it is satisfying to watch somebody fight back against Apple.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 21:28 1

34. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

you reap what you sew, apple.. remember that.

I will die laughing if HTC wins and Apple has to pay royalties to HTC after all this crap. Because you know then HTC will sell rights of these patents over to samsung and the rest and they will all start milking Apple (not sure if its legal, but if it is.. oh the irony).

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 22:04 1

36. Mike S (unregistered)

What goes around comes around for Apple.
Apple better be ready for onslaught of lawsuits coming its way.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 22:48 7

39. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

I declare the winners to be the lawyers.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 22:55 1

40. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Hahahaha, android fanboys act like htc already won, hahahaha. What a bunch of clowns :)

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 23:36 3

48. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Gemini, didn't you say a while back that you were going to cut the bulls**t and stop being an antagonistic s**t toward us? Could you maybe stick to that mindset?

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 13:54 1

62. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


posted on 07 Sep 2011, 22:57 1

41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

And the fandroids rejoice. Take note andrones. I don't hate htc or think they're the most evil company in the world. This is part of business and if htc thinks they have a case they should sue.

Also fanboys that are saying Apple is the only one suing. Do you realize Nokia and Motorola sued Apple before any of these android related lawsuits?

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 23:20 3

45. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

What we get annoyed about, Taco (note: this is about the fiftieth time we've explained this to you) is that Apple has a history of suing the bejeezus out of everyone else for making any product, icon, or name remotely similar to any of their products or services while flatly refusing to pay a penny of royalties to any other company for the patents they apparently violate. And considering that Motorola and Nokia are original players in the cell phone market, there are a ton of patents they hold that Apple probably violated with the iPhone.

It's a blatantly hypocritical stance, and quite honestly, the patents Apple sues over generally appear quite petty and inane compared to the patents all the other companies are pulling up and bringing to bear against Apple.

Why after all this time do you still refuse to get this?

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 00:04 2

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

And heres where you're a hypocrite. When Apple gets sued it's legitimate, but when Apple sues it's petty. Apple seems to be doing pretty well with their lawsuits so far so I'd say they have ground to stand on.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 02:02 4

56. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Apple's lawsuits so far have not resulted in a single financial reward, and the patents they've actually made headway with are so simple to circumvent that all the headway they HAVE gained will be lost almost immediately.

Here's the problem, Taco: Apple is suing over bulls**t like icon appearance and general usage of gestures. Motorola and Nokia are suing over things like the HARDWARE THAT ALLOWS THE IPHONE TO PLACE CALLS. And while Moto may have sued Apple first, their lawsuits came after they claimed Apple absolutely REFUSED to pay them a dime for violating their patents.

If Apple has legitimate patents, fine, whatever, let 'em sue. But for them to go crazy with lawsuits like they have while refusing to pay anything to anyone else for all the hard work THEY'VE done is what I have an actual problem with.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 13:17 1

61. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

apple sues over similar looks.. which arent patented. Apple gets sued over patents which are a lot more serious than "waaaah, samsung is using the same color red in an icon as me!!"

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 14:49

63. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Design is very serious. You cant steal the look of a phone. Apple is a very design based company and are very protective of their designs. Its part of what makes a iphone special. Its so good looking.
Really sniggly apple cant make calls now because other companies did it first. Thats like saying other phones cant have a touchscreen. Its insane.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 18:13 1

65. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

the iPhone doesn't really have any real signature touches other than the obvious things like the home button and the Apple Logo. it's really just a black case that holds everything it needs to work within it's defined parameters.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 21:57

67. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

From its shape to its materials to its edges to its ui its stunning how good looking it is.

Its not about the icon color but look at the galaxy app drawer same layout as the iphone home page and the same bottom button. Come on.

posted on 09 Sep 2011, 00:57 1

69. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

you can't sue for materials or shape. as far as the look of the UI Samsung is kind of pushing it but they've BEEN pushing it. the only reason Apple cares is because Samsung is becoming more and more successful.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 19:36 1

66. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

When it's a minor design cue, like the color of an icon, it's pretty petty.

And I'm not saying that Apple shouldn't be allowed to make a cell phone. Just that if they're going to do it based on tech that other companies have spent billions of dollars in R&D to develop they shouldn't expect to sidestep any royalty payments while suing everyone else and their brother.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 22:03

68. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

What about the cost apple spend on the touchscreenn technology they developed so they should sue for others using a touchscreen right? They did devolp a whole new kind of touchscreen.

posted on 07 Sep 2011, 23:24 1

46. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

of course you're not going to speak against HTC's reaction to Apple. you know we'd jump so far down your throat reminding you of all the di** moves Apple made that it wouldn't even be worth it.

Apple didn't come out lawsuits loaded until everybody and their moms were in Apple's eyes infringing for years. if Apple really cared then they could have nipped it all in the bud years ago but they didn't, they chose now. why now you wonder? because genuine threats to Apple's success are arising. even an idiot like you should be able to project Google and their partners overtaking Apple within the next couple of years at their rate of progression.

Apple is like a teenage girl. she sees a girl try to copy her and she just thinks it's cute until it starts making her cooler than herself, then she starts bitching.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 00:07 1

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Actually you're wrong. Watch Steve Jobs announce the original iPhone. He mentions how Apple has patented the heck out of it and they plan to protect it.

Comparing a corporation to a teenage girl shows how warped and out of touch with reality your thinking is.

Btw Do you really think I care about fandroid reactions and if they'd jump down my throat?

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 00:22 2

53. ilia1986 (unregistered)

You clearly didn't even watch that, Taco. Which is surprising actually.

SJ says they patented MULTI-TOUCH - Not the whole of the iPhone. Wrong. Again.

And just so you know - afaik - that patent was granted to them by mistake - since multi-touch apparently existed way before the iPhone.

posted on 08 Sep 2011, 00:51 1

55. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

oh did he? when i remember the original Galaxy Tab that came out well after your original iPhone announcement Apple didn't really seem like they were in a big rush to protect themselves from what the Tab represented to their company when it was announced and that was really just a thorn in their side at the most and now i see reports of the unveiling of "similar" products like the new 7.7" Galaxy Tab being crashed by Apple's injunctions. what's the difference between the two? well one is vastly superior to the other. guess which one is causing this aggressive behavior all of a sudden. if they were serious years ago they might have pulled it off.

it's what comes to mind when i see how Apple competes in this space.

then why try to convince us you don't care when you clearly do? judging from how fast you point a finger at something you think is dirty i don't think you'd act so differently from us if the roles were reversed. if it's one thing you don't come off as taco is detached.

* Some comments have been hidden, because they don't meet the discussions rules.

Want to comment? Please login or register.

Latest stories