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HTC One X+ coming to T-Mobile with 1.7GHz Tegra 3+ processor?

0. phoneArena posted on 25 Jul 2012, 12:13

That mysterious HTC Era 42 handset that showed up on a leaked T-Mobile screenshot a few weeks ago is apparently the HTC One X+; and what does the plus sign indicate? How about a 1.7GHz Tegra 3 plus processor of course!...

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posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:22

21. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

yes, that is great
but are you telling me you wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if samsung announces the samsung galaxy IIIs next week with advanced features and capabilities?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:34 2

25. ilia1986 (unregistered)

If you had the SGS3 - and DID your research - and KNEW the specs of the SGS3s and - and concluded that the SGS3 has more bang for your buck - then no.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:45

28. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

did the owners of the one x or the droid razr have any way to know about the next two phones
or the gs2 skyrocket surplanting the gs2 in a couple months?
that is when it smarts
all technology gets obsoleted
but as a geek i like that new technology feel and this feels kind of unfair

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:52

31. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Yes. The specs of both of them were known before their launch.

You DO get robbed of that feeling that your device is the best of everything else out there after a few months - but feelings do not cost money.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:58

33. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

wow, that reflects brilliantly on samsung's perspective of me as a customer
i haven't picked a new smartphone yet
but at least apple wines and dines you before they...

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 00:21

60. Schuler2828 (Posts: 59; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

The Razr Maxx is kinda old now but is still a sick ass phone with Ice cream sandwich and the best battery on the market. If your phone does what it needs to for now then why should you be mad about a new phone?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 14:57

39. true1984 (Posts: 830; Member since: 23 May 2012)

why not? they did that with the GS2

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:07 2

16. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

okay, let me use your own example to argue the point
a lot of food has a shelf life of days, especially once its opened
the term of use is extremely short
i wouldn't be angry if they released new food a coulpe of days into my purchased food because i am going to have to buy more food in a day or two anyways
it is totally differnet if i buy a "flagship" device where the term of use is twenty-four months
to have them release the same phone but better as a new replacement flagship four or five months into the life cycle
leaving me with an effecitvely discounted phone for over a year and a half
this is exactly the problem lumia 900 owners are having if you want to deny it's a problem

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:25

23. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Not a problem.

You bought a phone for let's say - 800$ (unlocked). let's say that this phone indeed has a "term of use" for 24 months (which is BS of course since the phone can function as long as it's functional, but let's ignore this fact for now). Let's say that after 6 months a new - better phone comes in - which also costs 800$.

Now - after 6 months - your phone has the effective value of about 18/24*800 = 600$ since 6 months have passed. If you were to sell it - you'd probably sell it for 600$ - because you paid 200$ for the 6 months you've been using it. Now, if you want to buy the new 800$ phone - which also has let's say a "term of use" of 24 months - you'd have to pay 800$ - to get another 24 months.

So in total - you're paying 800 - 600 + 800 = 1000$ for 30 months of usage.

In other words - your phone started decreasing in value the moment you bought it. If new phones were released every 2 years - at the end of the 2 years - the value of your phone is effectively close to 0 according to the logic you set in your post.

Of course - this is a very rough example - and you could buy a 750$ phone which would be be worth more than a 900$ phone even after a year - and thus you have to conduct a careful market research, and always know what's coming ahead. A person who bought let's say the SGS2 when it came out for 750$ earned much more than the one who bought the Droid Bionic for the same price (for example).

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:47

29. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

i'm talkign contractually here
on contract you can't just sell it and walk away without penalties
also, i use my phones for a long period of time
my current phone turns three this year
if they are shoving a two year contract down my throat, i would expect a good six months grace period to enjoy my phone as the top of the line for the company i purchased from (if i did indeed buy it when it first came out)
i am not talking about people who buy the iphone 4s in a month
i'm talking about people who buy the iphone 5 in three

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:57

32. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I dunno how contracting in the US goes. Here in Israel - no matter where you buy your phone - it's unlocked - and you can sell it on day 1.

If this is an issue in the US system - you wouldn't expect all the manufacturers just band together and say "Hey hold on a bit - we can't release that phone yet because of the stupid absurd US contracting system. Let's wait 24 months because little Johny just signed a contract with some US carrier and he would be very disappointed if we ship the phone now.", now, would you?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 14:00

34. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

in the us you can get most high end smartphones between two and three hundred dollars if you buy them on a contract
and we tend to get some of them earlier, which is why you have the mistaken notion that people would know about the upcoming phones, especially with motorola

i am not asking them to wait two years for me
i'm just saying give me six months
don't undercut me three months into my contract with the latest and greatest when there is no reason to

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 14:07

36. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Well as far as I know - you guys actually get top end phones last. Except for the diephone, that is. HTC one X, SGS3, SGS2, SG Note all came to Europe first - and then to you. And if the Europeans know how to do their research - so should you.

As for contracts - if you are bound to a contract and can't resell your phone - well - that's the price you pay for having top phones for 200 - 300$. Just so you know - here top phones cost about 1,000$!

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 14:25

37. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

but that adds to my point
you guys have had the htc one x for a while now
we just got it
and now they are releasing a new update to it
this is where the market sucks and where it should change to make it more consumer friendly

nokia, apple, and blackberry all have very clear, very understandable line ups that do what they want them to
i am refering to windows 8 and bb10 not the past stuff
there will be three or four lumia devices, it will be easy to know what you are getting into, you can make an educated choice without having to worry about them releasing a slightly beefed up model two months after you buy
and the expereince won't suffer for it, because they can focus on a few premium products
rather than having to deal with hundreds of slightly different phones that all need to be coded differently because they each have a slightly different advertiseable feature

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 14:34

38. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Yes, you just got the HTC one X. But we might soon get the HTC one X2 or whatever it's called - so you must choose - buy the One X now, or wait for a bit until the X2 comes along. That depends on how much you need you wait, and how advanced the X2 is compared to the X. It's called market research.

Now, the advantage of Android over all the diephones, Nokias, blackberries whatever, is that even a 2 year old phone - let's say - the Nexus S - get's the latest software version - Android 4.1 in this case - today. Heck, even a 3 year old phone will be capable of running 4.1 via a custom Rom.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 00:28

62. Schuler2828 (Posts: 59; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

This guy knows his s**t, I like that!

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 17:39

44. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Yea, but the Lumia was already behind the curve when it first came out. Obsolete out the door.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 23:25

51. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Then don't buy it. It's that simple.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 00:24

61. Schuler2828 (Posts: 59; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

The Lumia 900 wasn't a high end phone though?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 20:22

46. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)

aaa no, but it doesnt mean i will buy the new food on the shelf either.... I would probably walk in the store and say "wow" look at the new stuff, but once i seen the "new" price i would then continue to buy what i have always been buying...seannyc is right in a way and the only way to keep up with this flow would to be either satisfied with what you have, or you can sell what you have to get what you want....your choice...the thing is although these new phones are getting stronger and quicker, the apps and requirements have been LONG met with the current chipsets they have in them now.....There really isnt any thing you could throw at these phones that it wouldnt be able to handle so upgrading is almost pointless unless you're just a tech freak and cant ignore the hype of new technology trying to make you feel like you are missing out on something...

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 23:34

52. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I guarantee you that in 6 - 12 months - there will be so many graphically - and CPU - intensive apps - that your 1Ghz 512MB Ram smartphone won't be able to handle it. Look at PCs during the mid 2000's. Let's say 2006 - the dawn of the dual core processors. Everything except high end games could be run by a single core 2Ghz machine with 512MB of Ram. Look at 2012 - today - that machine would now struggle to run anything more than a web browser. And why? Because there was an explosion in multi-core CPUs, and everyone started taking advantage of it.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:02 2

11. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)

Actually, 2012 has been quite a quiet year for flagship phones and at least at lot more sensible since 2011. Now we all know Samsung has 2 flagships a year, the Note and the Galaxy S Series, besides the note 2 what other high end device has Samsung actually announced since May 3rd excluding tablets, I'm struggling. no doubt all of their advertising and sponsorships have solely been focused on the S3 and S3 alone, no other phone yet from Samsung which has bettered it. But it's a once a year phone like Apple, only difference is that Samsung has the Note series which is also once a year.

HTC has the one series, this is just a different version of the One X but effectively the same phone. I ask you, what other High end quad core phone has HTC announced since showing this at MWC, what other week or month did they OFFICIALLY announce a 1.6 ghz superphone that has rendered their one x obsolete since February, exactly, it's been 6 months and no sign of this talk about phones getting released every week, it's more like every six to eight months for high end and one-two months for budget handsets . Remember, a better version may be for international markets but it is without a doubt, still the same phone. What will break this steady release however is the introduction of 5 nexus phones which will complicate things.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 15:57

41. JC557 (Posts: 1791; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)

So basically since it's inconvenient for you, people who have different upgrade schedules must make do with less choice?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:20

20. flamemee (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)

You're looking at this from your own selfish point-of-view. People are rolling off their contracts all the time that are not in the same schedule as you. When that happens, most people would want to buy an up-to-date device right away. They don't want to have to make a choice whether to buy a 6-month old device or wait another 6-months for the next model. Get it?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:50

30. remtothemax (Posts: 260; Member since: 02 May 2012)

see, but it works fine with iphone
there is not need to make a new phone with a half better processor and more ram and a higher quality screen every few months
the iphone does it once a year and they control the content market essentially
so even with the 1.5ghz quad cores and 2 gbs of ram
infinity blade, shadow gun, rage, etc. were all designed to work on an 800mhz dual core with .5gb of ram
and they work fine quite frankly
so what is the point of taking away the new phone feeling so quickly because everyone needs an up-to-date device right away to play the content that is definately not advancing as fast as processor speeds and ram are increasing

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 20:10

45. MeoCao (unregistered)

More choice for consumer is never a bad thing. But HTC should care about those who bought their devices with timely updates.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 00:01

56. Schuler2828 (Posts: 59; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

What if your upgrade was in 2 months wouldn't you want to get the best phone for that time frame not a phone that was released in April?

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 12:42 1

6. torr310 (Posts: 1079; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

larger battery capacity & 2GB RAM would be great

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 13:04

14. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3800; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

I'm with you on that. With Samsung already futureproofing their flagship phones with 2GB of RAM, there's no reason HTC shouldn't do the same. I would also like to see all that's the been mentioned above--a bigger battery capacity (at least 2,000 mAH), removable battery, & expandable storage. I don't truly expect them to include all those features, but they would be truly knocking it out the park if they did. In any event, this is looking like the phone I'll be upgrading to when I'm due in 3 months.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 12:57

9. eman99 (Posts: 392; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)

yes by all mean by the time it comes out (like forever)

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