HTC (M)10 seen in the flesh, blazes through AnTuTu leaving the competition behind

With just a little over two weeks left before HTC announces its flagship (One) (M)10, the intensity of leaks has, naturally, increased. We've got renders of the new phone—which paint a familiar, yet different device—some hardware specifications, and all kinds of other slivers of intel. The latest to hit the street? An image of the HTC 10 (or whatever it ends up being called), after it had supposedly tackled the AnTuTu benchmark...
This is a discussion for a news article. To read the whole news, click here



Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Yeah, S6 had great camera and processing. All they had to do, seeing as how they made the phone thicker, was: 1) increase the sensor size to 1/2.4" or 1/2.3" 2) increase aperture as they did on S7 3) keep the MP the same And LG? Why the bet on a dual lens system? Unless one of the lens carries a narrower FoV for better detail at a given distance, modifications for better low light, or something more useful than super wide angle (that creates an ugly barrel effect), they should only use dual lens if the lens work together to create a better image ala compound eyes in animals.

59. Fardon

Posts: 96; Member since: Nov 24, 2014

Dont know about great processing. It oversharpened and smudged low light photos especially, still the same for the most part in the S7. Which is off putting but HTC is dog s**t I'll be getting the S7.

26. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

actually, the S7 camera is really good and fast AF! getting better pictures with the S7 camera than the S6..but there is improments still that can be made sure! but you also need to keep in mind that the SW is not mature yet, it will get even better :)

47. Shocky unregistered

The fast AF is amazing, went to a party recently and tried taking pictures of a cake under low lighting with the Galaxy S6 and unsurprisingly they turned out blurry and a bit blotchy. My friends Galaxy S7 had no issues at all, sharp images with more detail. I was jealous, I must admit.

16. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

My faith in HTC has now been restored.

32. _KIRA_

Posts: 108; Member since: Dec 25, 2013

just like that? a leaked antututu score?

74. KONICHIWA-ANNYONG unregistered

No Stereo Speakers and SD expansion = FAIL on HTC's part. ...because then it wouldn't really be an HTC anymore.

20. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

always liked HTC time when we had the M7..but after that not so much..hopefully the M10 change my mind again..although the S7 edge is a real nice phone, if HTC can have a good camera and good batterylife..I may change to a HTC later on.

30. Fardon

Posts: 96; Member since: Nov 24, 2014

dont say that you'll have the anti HTC circle jerk attacking lol.


Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Absolutely excited. Was looking forward to a number of phones, but lack of US availablity for Xiamoi, LG with an un-upgraded cam and likely underwhelming battery, Samsung with disappointing battery life given a 3,000mAh cell and no serious new changes, and Sony apparently abandoning the compact line for favor of the mid-ground X-series, has left me with few options. It's sad to say, being a fan of android, that the iPhone SE looks to be a great phone that shows all the right differences from the 6/6s including price. Ouch. It hurt to admit that. OnePlus 3, Meizu (if the rumors of Exynos 8 in the Pro are true), and HTC are all that's left. OP3 and HTC--the 10 and A9's successor likely w/ SD625--are the hopefuls.

52. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1347; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

I am excited too. I hope HTC just take their time fine tuning their camera software. Even Sony themselves, with certain models, failed to fully take advantage of their own sensor and having their phone lag behind in comparison to others like LG and Samsung. And as of late HTC has not been known for its optic capabilities I think here the have the opportunity to hit a home run. I don't want to see them fail at all. However, I have to admit Samsung has greatly improved its offering and now all Android OEM's must bring their "A" game and we the Consumer will benefit.

55. Macready

Posts: 1813; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

"Camera should be an easy win" Even if if the sensor happens to be a1/2.3", it's going to make about a quarter of a stop difference at best with equal lens speed (f/1.7). But no one will notice 1/4 EV difference in pictures (you need eagle eyes to see 1/3 EV difference in noise) and you can be rather sure of the fact that the lens will be slower, most likely more than 1/4 EV slower...

64. pmsap

Posts: 105; Member since: May 26, 2015

The phone design let's much to wonder... Even if it matches S7's cpu/gpu and camera the design... mehh... Besides, for what I've read the waterproofing has some tradeoff with sound and microphone quality. But at least samsung is trying to improve things. Not yet there? Maybe. But going there. For me, the waterproof tech is a very nice one to have.

72. FriendlyFoe09

Posts: 82; Member since: Jan 09, 2012

What's the point of benchmarks if the phone doesn't work in real life. Like previous HTCs. They just keep getting things wrong.

81. phonearenarocks

Posts: 606; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

You sure to be "TheWise?"

83. Fardon

Posts: 96; Member since: Nov 24, 2014


2. NoAllegiance unregistered

This could very well be the first HTC device I actually think will be a success, since the One M7. Do not get me wrong, M8 and M9 were good, but not as successors to the M7.

29. Coconut00

Posts: 485; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

The M8 was quite good and praised as many because it went against the Galaxy S5, the most hated Galaxy ever. With the M9, though, they dropped the ball and it went against the Galaxy S6 which was seen as the best Galaxy since at least the S3.

54. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

That's not saying much, at least in terms of my experience. I had the S3 and it's the reason I haven't had another Samsung device. It was great for the first month or so, after which the performance and battery life took a downturn. The GPS on that thing was bad out of the box, constantly searching for a signal, which I'm sure didn't help on battery life either. I never had GPS issues on the HTC devices I had before it, nor on the Moto and Nexus devices I've had since. I always see the new Samsung's and want to pick one up, but my experience with the S3 always makes me reconsider it.

85. idcidk

Posts: 6; Member since: Apr 16, 2015

Why was the S5 the most hated Galaxy ever?

90. Coconut00

Posts: 485; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

IMO it was the most hated because of a weak design and the fact that it was a minor upgrade to the S4, which was a minor upgrade to the S3 according to many. Similar to what happened with the HTC One M9.

3. natypes

Posts: 1110; Member since: Feb 02, 2015

Good for them. Hope they hit a home run with this device and things pick up for them. Making a device that has top notch hardware, build and gets quick updates has to be a winner. Might be a good stock to take a look at as well.

4. Trakker

Posts: 283; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

I don't really care about benchmarks and more interested how it runs in daily use for how much it lags with a load of apps installed.

7. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Year after year HTC beat mostly every competitor on speed and fluidity what killed them was bad camera mostly. the M9 can keep more apps open than the S6 and is overall faster as well.

13. Shocky unregistered

Don't forget Snapdragon 810 with the heavy throttling and terrible battery life. I know you want to forget it and pretend it never happened, but it did. :D

31. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@Shocky Fan Boys always pretend to be oblivious of the shortcomings their "Mother-Ship" suffers from... Typical, I'd say... BTW, If its running on an SD820 then I see no reason why it should score more than The Galaxy S7... It's the same bloody chipset, isn't it?

39. Shocky unregistered

HTC are still using app optimizations so I wouldn't pay much attention to it.

53. w1000i

Posts: 238; Member since: Jul 22, 2015

No, The kernel inside which control the cpu with the software plays big factor in performance.

71. Vagabondjonez

Posts: 156; Member since: Jan 21, 2016

Optimization sir, that's the name of the game. Meizu was able to score even higher I believe

17. Trakker

Posts: 283; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

I agree older Samsung phones had horrific ram management issues, but 2 weeks with the S7 and Samsung really have stepped up their game and I've never seen another phone that comes close.

* Some comments have been hidden, because they don't meet the discussions rules.

This copy is for your personal, non-commercial use only. You can order presentation-ready copies for distribution to your colleagues, clients or customers at or use the Reprints & Permissions tool that appears at the bottom of each web page. Visit for samples and additional information.