Google software guru says Android, RIM and iOS anti-virus app makers are “charlatans and scammers”

Here's an interesting suggestion – there's no real malware on Android and all those reports we've been seeing in the last months/years are all a scam. That's the position of Google's open-source software guru…
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24. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

who knows, maybe he reads phone boards and got tired of iTrolls constantly spreading false information, and therefore wanted to set the record straight. if it was a top apple programmer saying the same thing about apple would you doubt it? if not, then your just trolling.

30. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Umm it's not itrolls. There's a report about malware on android every other week it seems.

34. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Remix Faisal posted an article from November 15th showing an explosion in malware on android.

46. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

yea, 400% explosion, i saw it. it doesnt change the actual number much. even if android didnt have a single sale between the previous article and this one 0.00005% X 400% = 0.0002% of android users have been affected by it. Now when you factor in that 16.5million activations a month (550k activations a day X 30 days), it probably drops it right back down to that original 0.00005% number.. maybe a lil higher, maybe a little lower point is 400% makes for great headlines but not an honest look at the whole picture. The whole picture? Android is secure. And the bulk of that malware exists in asian languages like chinese and it mostly affects asian countries.

48. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

You don't even understand why you're math is totally wrong do you?

51. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

instead of trolling, tell us why, oh professor taco.

54. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Have you considered that not every single android activated is still active today?

57. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

so, in the last couple of months you think there were more android phones deacted than activated? you think the net total of android phones is LESS than it was before? That would mean that MORE THAN 16.5 million phones are deactivated every month for that to even hold water.... even though Android is up 100 million sales for the year so far. ARE YOU SERIOUS???!??!?!?!?! no.. you cant possibly be that brainless... can you?

59. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Your math counts only activations and doesn't count deactivations. According to you every new esn is an activation. That means all warranty and insurance replacements are activations. Then there's all the people switching from one android to another or going with the iPhone. Your math is totally flawed and you have no basis to quote a specific percentage. A reasonable comment would be I believe affected users are a small amount.

61. iamcc

Posts: 1319; Member since: Oct 07, 2011

Are you really educating remix on how to make a "reasonable comment"? The post you just made (which i'm replying to) is the closest thing to a "reasonable comment" i've ever seen you write. Regardless, i'm giving you thumbs up.

62. Jobes

Posts: 364; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Even if you put in deactivations the number is stilllllllllllll far far far... far.. far... faaaar far... btw far. Below 1 percent.. just saying :)

67. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

taco, an ESN can only be activated once Warranty phones are USED phones, their ESNs have already been activated, and thus DO NOT COUNT again. What do you think they do with the phone when someone returns it under the trial period? lol. if someone buys an iphone4 and then buys an iphone4s down the line, it still counts as a new iphone sold. if someone buys an android and then upgrades down the line, it still counts as a new android sold. i fail to see where you have a valid point in all of this, other than just trying to be aggravating. you lack the logic to come up with a decent rebuttal.. good lord. taco, that is exactly what my original comment was.. lol unless 0.00005% turned into a large number and no one informed me. A reasonable response to my original arguement would be "since you explained your math, and it was math that was pulled directly from the original article, then it might be true"... not one thing you have said in rebuttal has a basis in reality.

70. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

The valid point is that upgrading from one android to another doesn't increase the user base. Your math is percentage of the user base right? Also in the several years android has been in use a lot of these phones are no longer in use. You're counting activations but not counting deactivations. Your math is flawed. That would be like AT&T quarterly reports where they count their suvpbscribers by add only and not considering deactivations. You pulled this number out your ass as usual. Why can't you understand that deactivations have to be counted now that I pointed it out?

73. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Actually, they report net gain....do you know what the term 'net' means, as opposed to 'gross?' Yeah, I thought so :-)

22. Owlet

Posts: 450; Member since: Feb 21, 2011

I've spent awhile with Android, but I never felt that I needed an anti virus app. I can't imagine me having a virus on the cell phone. And I do think that what DiBona said aboutanti virus companies is true.

26. BigRed83

Posts: 144; Member since: May 19, 2008

The only "viruses" I saw with any regularity was on dumbphones from forwarded text messages, that replicated themselves, then cleaned out and crashed the phone. Never on a smartphone. The only security problem was cloning on old Treos, which was Palm's issue back then.

27. twashington4

Posts: 81; Member since: May 24, 2010

Yeah, I learned my lesson with crappy apps, but never had a virus. I tried lookout antivirus once, but it does hog up resources from time to time...at least that was my experience. I uninstalled and haven't had any virus issues to speak of at all.

28. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I agree the virus apps are scams. However android definitely has a malware problem. It's called market place.

31. LewsTherin006

Posts: 140; Member since: Nov 18, 2011

yes, because every app in the market (not marketplace, thats winphone7) is a virus. 0_0

33. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Never said every app, but it's definitely infested with them. That's what happens when there's no approval process.

36. jdcxxx

Posts: 15; Member since: Nov 14, 2011

Remember the guy who posted an app with malicious software to prove that there are flaws with the ios security.

40. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Please stay on topic. We're discussing android.

42. iamcc

Posts: 1319; Member since: Oct 07, 2011

taco you crack me up.

47. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

something tells me taco got another warning letter.. lol.

49. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I'm warning him. I've applied to be a PA moderator.

52. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

bahahahahahahah you mean you applied to be permanently moderated. lol

53. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

You're buddy ilia has been moderated on this article for his offensive comments. I'm staying on topic and using logic and facts which is like krypton to android fanboys.

58. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

taco, you get moderated at least once on probably 60-70% of all articles you have posted on. And your worried about illia's rare moderation? get a grip.

64. Jobes

Posts: 364; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Krypton is the planet.. gahhh google is your friend taco :)

74. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Are you delirious? Months ago, there was warning of SMS being passed around iphones exploiting a security flaw: http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/28/hackers-iphone-apple-technology-security-hackers.html

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