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Google asked the media to play down Google Play "flaw"

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Feb 2013, 23:27

You might recall that last week we told you that Google appears to hand over your personal information to the developer with each purchase of an app from the Google Play Store; the original story was published by the News.com.au web which later amended by the site at the request of Google which had an issue with the use of the word 'flaw' in the original headline...

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posted on 16 Feb 2013, 23:30 18

1. SoehartoTukangKorupsi (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)

source: apple insider...

need i say more?

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 00:15 11

2. Igneel (unregistered)

Well duh. Everyone else worships Google, they'd just agree with what ever Google does, generally speaking. Since AppleInsider is helping the rivalry, the news could be more honest, at least to say. What better source of flaws other than their own enemy? Google knows flaws from Apple and they already have their fans to find Apple's.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 00:25 11

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"Everyone else worships Google..."

Yah think? Somehow, I suspect folks at MS don't worship Google.

The bigger issue is Google's use of customer data outside of the TOS provisions. Maybe a class action lawsuit is in the making.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 01:46 4

8. alterecho (Posts: 1099; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)

Sorry, i am not able to click the 'thumbs up' button more than once.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 08:10 10

17. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)

This isn't some game of Android vs. iOS. Flaws need to be found and fixed, ASAP regardless of the company. Stop caring more about a technology company than the people who use their products. I love Apple, but by no means will that excuse them from flawed products. The same SHOULD go with Google if they've got a flaw. Fix it...simple as that.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:33 5

22. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I don't think it matters as long as the source is credible.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 13:04 2

48. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Yup they ought to be as credible as you :)

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 20:16

54. joey_sfb (Posts: 6613; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

If the media is not in error they don't have to make any amendment. I would rather the proper authority look into the matter than to have competition bad mouthing each other.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 21:01

57. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Yes you can. It was written by Daniel Dildo of apple insider, the most idiotic appletard there is. Don't believe me? Read his blog...no, you can read a safe version here:


posted on 17 Feb 2013, 00:26 12

4. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I'm sure Google will provide an explanation at some point.

My question is how this hasn't been brought to anyone's attention for almost five years now.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 02:58 8

10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

That's what I was thinking. If this has been happening since the launch of the Android app store, why is everybody freaking out about it now? Apparently it's not a big deal if people are just finding out about it now, years later after it begun, and no one has been harmed by it.

Also, isn't this access of information standard for any payment method, other than cash payments and gift cards? This shouldn't be anything new, unless I'm mistaken.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:44 1

26. Hemlocke (unregistered)

It would be standard if Google had that information, but not if every developer also gets it. It's the "Google Play Store," not the "Dan Nolan Play Store" or "Koushik Dutta Play Store," so those folks only need to know the bare essentials (email address, or some such) of the customer who purchased their app. Centralizing this information is one of the biggest safety mechanisms of an app store, or at least I thought it was, until Google turned it into the wild west.

As for nobody being harmed, it is actually nobody you have heard of because if it has happened, the numbers have been small enough to escape reporting. That's not the same thing as "no one has been harmed by it."

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:32 3

21. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I'm pretty sure it'll be a load of crap. There's no excuse for google allowing such private info getting out like that to developers. Imagine if someone left a bad review and the developer had your private info .

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:41 6

25. lyndon420 (Posts: 5002; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

I'm a developer...and I have your info Mxyzptlk. Stay out of your mom's underwear drawer lol.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:48 3

27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Not all developers are d**ks. Even so, what are they going to do with your email, address, and name? Send you spam? Come to your house and beat you up? You're blowing this thing way out of proportion. This is NOTHING new.

This thing is standard for any payments methods. Know your Apple ID? Same thing. It has your email, name, address, and your credit card info if you have one. I'm sure iOS app developers have access to that information; if you pay with anything other than cash or gift cards, you are giving all of that information away. Have some common sense and quit blindly raging over something that means literally nothing.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:52

29. papss (unregistered)

Is apple keeping the media quiet about their practices too? If there was no problems then they wouldn't suppress that info

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 10:12 1

32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

I get where your coming from, if there's nothing wrong with it, why is Google trying to keep it quiet? Asking for media suppression = immediate response for being caught in the act of something bad, this is everyone's first reaction, and justly so.

You have to think of what Google may be doing though, maybe Google is just trying to get the media to be quiet so there isn't an uproar in the community, but since it's already been released they just asked to play it down so they have time to release a statement explaining the whole thing. That statement is probably going to be the same thing me and quite a few other people have said; this is standard information given out in ANY payment method that isn't cash or gift cards. As soon as you swipe your credit card in a store, or enter it online, the person or company you are paying immediately gets all of this information.

In the case of app stores, any time you set up an account that asks for information (i.e Android and iOS apps stores), any time you buy an app with a credit card hooked to your account or use a gift card for store credit with that account, you are giving all of your information you put into the set up of that account to the developer.

I'm not trying to defend Google because I'm an Android user. I'm just saying that this is standard; Apple does it, Google does it, anytime you have used your credit card or an account with credit from a gift card to make a purchase, that information is being given away.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 20:52 1

56. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Google isn't trying to keep the story quiet. They just asked for greater accuracy and less sensationalism.

I can't blame them for that, frankly.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 13:07

49. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Best way to avoid the bullcrap is enter go back to paleolithic age :)

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 20:26

55. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

So... How many cases of retaliation against bad reviews by developers have you heard of?

This is fear mongering on an epic scale.

posted on 18 Feb 2013, 01:52 1

60. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4783; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Check out my post #59. Basically the devs get less info than if you'd purchased something from amazon or any other online retailer.
They DO give the dev your:
Email address
City, state, and ZIP code

They DO NOT give out:
Your street address (123 N. Arlington Rd #11 for example)
Your SSN
Your DOB

If they didn't at least have your name and email address, they'd have a hard time confirming your subscription later on. The reason they have your city/state/ZIP s for billing. Credit cards usually need a billing ZIP for confirmation, as someone else here also said.

The only way to anonymously purchase anything is with cash. Try sending an envelope full of cash and not get ripped off. Cash only works in person. Everything else, credit & debit cards, checks, money orders, and even Paypal are not completely anonymous. Info has to be sent to complete a valid transaction, that's just how it is.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but your info/money is at risk every second of every day. Even if you've never been online, had a bank account or credit card, your info is still out there. DMV, postal records, phone company records, voter registration, etc. While not the easiest to get at, it happens, and that's again only if you've never bought anything online. The only real way is to be vigilant with your bank accounts, and have a bank that has good watchdog services. My bank saved me from losing $2,000 just because they noticed odd behavior on my account. They contacted me within 2 hours of seeing it and shut it down. The breach was through my amazon account, and they apparently caught the guy.

posted on 18 Feb 2013, 13:01

62. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

I think with your mindset... everyone should just stop buying anything online period.

Do you know how many people will get to see your information every time you placed an order online at a company? Not to mention the individual sellers that will see all this information if you buy on Amazon, eBay, etc...

posted on 18 Feb 2013, 15:38

63. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4783; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Exactly. It's almost like people are finding out about this for the first time. If you don't provide all that info, how are they to verify that you are really you. Otherwise all they would need is your credit card number, and someone could get that when you're paying for coffee or gas. But on the other side of the coin now you've got to give it out to someone you don't know to purchase something online. There are risks anytime you buy with a CC. It's life.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 00:46 6

5. gallison1983 (Posts: 47; Member since: 19 Dec 2012)

Possibly because consumers rarely ever think about ToS in the first place. Google tends to be overly liberal with information until someone calls them out on it. Kind of like Facebook. Consumers see "Install" or "Status Update" as the goal and ToS as an annoying popup to click away so they can start tapping/clicking on those buttons.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 00:58 4

6. Fuego84 (Posts: 352; Member since: 13 May 2012)

What's the big problem, if they claim it's not a flaw then they admit to purposely providing that information. Since when is your address a private thing anyways?

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 01:44 3

7. alterecho (Posts: 1099; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)

"Since when is your address a private thing anyways?"
It was till now...

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 04:51 4

12. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Yea you are right, our address is private....until

you get a credit card,
or a bank card,
or buy and/or sell anything online
or a subscription

Some ppl must dont realize that a credit card or a check card can be declined if it doesnt match the billing zip code or address when using it online. In some cases if the name doesnt match the name on the card.

But hey, I know some ppl that dont do things online. I pay all my bills online. One guy I work with still writes checks. I cant even remember the last time I wrote a check.

posted on 18 Feb 2013, 10:00

61. Fuego84 (Posts: 352; Member since: 13 May 2012)

Listen every government agency has your address you had to have listed your address on an ID card, Driver license, voter registration, bills, income tax, taxes, when being enrolled in school, city phone listings,and birth certificate. Who can't find your address with your first and last name state/city/zip which usually are the norm bits of info given out to merchants when purchasing online. You want your address to remain private, go on to the woods walk 1k steps north turn 375 step west and clear land and build your house and always use cash.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 02:55 5

9. rizevnarastek (Posts: 349; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

It is a Receipt isn't it? So that the developer has your information in case anything goes wrong, right? It seems normal to me and certainly isn't a flaw.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 04:45 3

11. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

We get the exact same info about the developer....sometimes a real name. I think the problem is many ppl have never sold anything online. Which makes it odd this developer was even freaking out about this.

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