Google posts heartbreaking 'Android has created more choice' letter

Google has a few comments to make to those pesky Europeans that claim it is taking unfair advantage of its monopolistic digital services. Actually, the memo that Google's CEO Sundar Pichai just posted on the corporate blog is probably aimed to preempt the tsunami of media coverage over a giant and imminent $5 billion fine that was just imposed on Google by the European Commission (EC).
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43. avalon2105

Posts: 352; Member since: Jul 12, 2014

Disable yes, uninstall no. I had major problems after disabling Google Play Music since it had background processes still running, even after disable. Problem was that GPM's cra**y sound driver was favored over LG's much better custom one. GPM was limiting playback to 16bit. After rooting and fully uninstalling all GApps device defaulted to LG's driver that could push full 24bits from the source file.

39. netizen

Posts: 73; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Your missing the point that Google didn't make the choice for default apps... the manufacturer did. The manufacturer also made the choice to make those apps uninstallable, not google. If your talking about Google services... that was also the choice of the manufacturer... not Google. The manufacturer of the hardware CHOSE to use Google services and thus be under the requirements that come with using Google services. Amazon uses Android and uses all Amazon services... nothing Google at all... that was Amazon's choice. The user also agrees to use Amazon services.... The customer, when they buy a device are immediately given a agreement to agree to which states the requirements of using Google services. The customer can choose not to agree and return the device and buy something else that doesn't require the agreement. The customer CHOOSES.... even if they CHOOSE NOT to read the agreement. That is the reason for EULAS they DO state the requirements if you care enough to read them before agreeing to them. If you chose NOT to read them.. well you've made your choice haven't you? Why then is the EU suing on behalf of the poor customers? And why is the EU going to take the money and not distribute it to the "wronged" customer (in their opinion)? This is what is wrong with the courts over there... nothing is ever the fault of the person who makes the choice... it's just finding a way to sue big companies and siphon money off from them. It's like the Mafia over there.... the price of doing the business in the EU is they will find a way to sue you and get their cut... for doing nothing. Like their crazy right to hide the truth... oh wait, they call it the right to be forgotten.... of course it's only the bad things they've done they want to hide.... can't have the truth out there for everybody to see.. they might see you for what you actually are. Probably some day they will want to have all the news articles about suing Google for 5 Billion hidden. Maybe that comes next year...

44. avalon2105

Posts: 352; Member since: Jul 12, 2014

I'm sorry but you come off as simple EU hater because they demand Google to adhere to EU laws. I want to buy Sony, LG, Samsung, Huawei ot HTC device that will have apps made or chosen by those OEMs. I don't want to use Chrome, GPM, G mapps, calendar or anything else made by Google. I did not buy a Google phone, I bought a Sony/LG/Samsung/Huawei/HTC phone. Just install Play Store and if your apps are as good as you think, then users will remove those OEM ones and download Google's from the Play Store. And don't bundle them, don't force people to use Play Music because they for some reason like to use Chrome.

15. Zylam

Posts: 1802; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Google is dropping the ball with Android. It's spiralling out of control. The eco system is still a mess with carriers, OEM's, governments, etc. All dipping their hands in and molesting the software into the ground. It's high time Google stopped beating around the bush and closed off the eco system by building in-house phones, watches, tablets and TV boxes, to get Android out of the abysmal state it's in now. The jig is up Google, you rode the "Open source" bandwagon to it's full extent (and probably even further). Everyone and their dog is catching onto how Android is crippled without your services and how you are slowly asserting control while denying everything. Android is nothing without Google's backing and it's high time Google stepped up and unleashed hell on the OEM's, Carriers and Governments. You control the show, not them. Anyone can make a mobile OS, but it would take years for them to build up the app support and eco system, and even if they did, most of the world uses Apple, MS and Google services and I highly doubt any of those apart from MS (Because they have no mobile OS now) would support a new mobile OS. Lock out the scum, shove the leaches out of the way and build your own devices. The EU or any other regulatory commission won't be able to fine you.

29. tedkord

Posts: 17095; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Yes such a mess. 80% marketshare, whatever will they do?

16. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

Simple solution, charge for play store and any applications those who refuse to bundle your services, monthly or annual fees. Just like any company in the world, you have to pay for services.

22. smoked_2na

Posts: 84; Member since: Mar 15, 2017

I say GOOGLE figures out how many copies of Android will sell in the EU next year and divide the $5B by that number and charge the OEM(s) using Android in the EU per handset. If the OEM(s) don't like it, they can fork and develop their own OS and pay the cost of engineering. Just like here in the US, just pass the FINE along.

30. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

Google need to pull it's play store from all phones sold in the EU. If anyone needs anything they will have to go to the website and pay for it like any other apps.. Gmail for phone $3.99 Google Maps $3.99 They can make more money this way and still add on ads for half over on application.... Lol

34. Vokilam

Posts: 1033; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

You’re saying “LoL” but you might be on to something genus.

36. jonathanfiuwx

Posts: 178; Member since: Mar 10, 2017

this is as ridiculous and sending a fine to distros of linux saying were limited only to firefox because it doesnt host microsoft apps

38. netizen

Posts: 73; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

So, Google leaves it to the manufacture of the hardware if they preinstal anything Google and the EU comes after Google??? The manufacturer of the hardware decides to put Google services, Google search, and Chrome on their devices based on customer preferences from their own research...and EU fines Google. Other manufacturers choose NOT to instal any Google services at all (China for example) and STILL use Android as an operating system on their devices, proving it's the manufacturer's decision..... Just another example of the EU trying to steal money through their warped courts from legitimate companies so they can profit from their work without having done any work other than through their self serving court system.

42. NinoH

Posts: 128; Member since: Feb 09, 2018

You can’t compare iOS and Android on this matter. Android is an open OS that works across many device and OEMs while iOS is for one set of devices from one company. If Apple would license iOS to other OEMs and force them to use their apps and services then it would be possible to sue Apple for monopoly. But that obviously won’t happen.

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