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For those who think BlackBerry or Nokia should switch to Android, here's why it is a bad idea

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:18

Every once in a while, we hear from those who think that Nokia or BlackBerry should drop their current operating systems and use Android as a replacement; on the surface, it would seem to make sense. Android, after all, is the top smartphone OS globally. With Windows Phone 8 and the new BlackBerry 10 platforms struggling, why not go with the leader...

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posted on 16 Aug 2013, 20:54 2

74. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

you're right Dastrix I didn't read anything racist on CELLKONTECH comment

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 16:17

50. Ninetysix (Posts: 2625; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)

You just went full potato. The original article didn't even come from PA.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 16:47

53. Dion25 (Posts: 42; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)

Did you read what was said in the article? 2.7% profit was shared between Sony, Htc, Motorola and others. Why would Blackberry or Nokia come to Android? What's funny is the 10 Thumbs up this comment got smh.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 21:19 3

77. tedkord (Posts: 13855; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Because each of those companies is selling more smartphones than either Nokia or BB?

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 20:43 1

71. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

I actually like how phonearena post these kinds of articles to stir the community it hosts.

Also, I believe nokia should not go on android, yet. As I can see, their doing good. Having 3 to 5 percent of the market by wp and wp being held by nokia is not actually bad. Nokia should just focus to wp just now. I think there are more things that will come up if developers would just help wp to gain more followers.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:31

4. CELLKONTECH (Posts: 11; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)

*almost all the smartphones

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:32 15

5. santy (Posts: 60; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Poor analysis. If Samsung dominates with 95% profits , it is the job of other manufacturer's to try and grab that share . This is called COMPETITION. As of last year it was non existent. This year things are changing with better competition from LG with G2 , HTC ONE and SONY with Ultra and Honami. I will not be surprised if Samsung profits drop from 95 to 80-85 this year.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:44 6

13. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

Definitely. It's loser's talk by Nokia saying that they can not compete in android because of Samsung.

posted on 17 Aug 2013, 07:33

96. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)

they made up that samsung thing in order to use wp. That is not surprise Elop decided to use wp. I think that if nokia used android , it would be blown the samsung.

posted on 17 Aug 2013, 15:46 1

101. juandante (Posts: 660; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)

Nokia would even overblow Samsung indeed. Camera quality, build quality, hardware features... All those things Samsung needs (and in extension Android) and WP is limiting. Biased article, once again. Nice one phone(crosoft)arena ! Wonder how much Microdollar is paying you all to post those things ?

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 17:17 3

55. MartyK (Posts: 934; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

You are 100 % correct, Nokia ( Elop & Nokians) is using this lie as an excuse, Android only true Leader is Google ...Not Samsung or HTC.

Heck if Motorola bring out the Moto XXX ( I made this up)
with 5.5 Screen/ (FHD), S800 /with always listen on and SD Slot!.

Note-3 and the rest would be in trouble!

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 17:38 5

59. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

Does the Moto XXX come preloaded with porn?

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 22:08

84. MartyK (Posts: 934; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

;) 1 year free subscription...lol

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:33 7

6. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

Nokia should do both, and could pull it off. BB should go back to their roots while staying relevant in other areas, with their roots being security.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 15:22 3

29. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

in my opinion nokia should release android tablets to make profit and use extra money on wp handsets more so that there will be greater windows phone market.......

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 15:46 1

35. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)

I disagree with you. I think nokia should release android phone. Because nexus tablets are the best choices when it comes to android tablet. Nokia would not gain profit as large as you said. İf they release android phone they will get profit more than they got from wp phones. But at the same time they should keep makiing wp phones because diversity is advantage.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 17:28 4

57. MartyK (Posts: 934; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

+1000 to you, I've been saying this for months..BB drop the ball
they could had took control of the Business world again if they would had came correct....
their marketing was the worst I've ever witness
BB should been:
1.5.6 screen /FHD with a pen ( for business use)
2.Multi-antennas/ for international traveling
3.BBM ( sell BBM to other OS users android,IOS WP)
4.Talk about their Enhance Security Features.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:34 1

7. santy (Posts: 60; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Also going by the analysis it means LG HTC and SONY are fighting a losing battle and should either die since they are competing with Sammy or make their own proprietary OS.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:35

8. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4752; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

I never said that either should drop their current OS and switch. I've said they should produce android alongside their current OS, which would help shore up said OS. No different than people who have a day job that allows them work on their main interest. In most cases they could basically use the same hardware with android inside.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:36 3

9. yowanvista (Posts: 341; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)

Those points are moot, you don't need the bigs numbers to be successful in the Android ecosystem. Sure Samsung has the money, the wild range of devices and colossal profits but a lot of OEMs are actually investing in both WP & Android and that hasn't stopped them from making profits. Sony is a perfect illustration, they managed to grab a significant slice of the Android marketshare within few quarters primarily due to their handsets which clearly distinguish themselves from the competition. Switching isn't what matters, adoption does. Nokia doesn't require an immense lineup or the need to flood the market with senseless phones like Samsung.

A Nokia powered Nexus device featuring PureView would make investors happy again and it'll surely sell more than any of those WP devices. Nokia could still release a 'Google Edition' phone with Pureview, that would still give them the advantage of having superior hardware, they have the quality hardware, the camera technology and the brand recognition like no other Android OEM out there; all that combined with Android would certainly prove to be successful. They should go with a dual platform imho.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 15:15 2

25. Dastrix (unregistered)

I agree. I also like the idea of a dual platform. Adopting that strategy might necessitate some test marketing on Android island though. So, yeah, a Nexus device with Pureview Phase I and II combined should do the trick :P
On a side note, I wouldn't quite say that Sony has captivated a significant Android market share. It may have been quick in the beginning, but the underlying fact is that it's pretty much stagnating at the moment... 2.7% was split by HTC, Motorola, Sony and others. I'm a Sony and Nokia fan, but I must say that it's a tough battle for Sony, and all the other Android OEMs, excluding Samsung.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:36 1

10. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)

Who said anything about dropping their current OS ? ...make a few Android models and see how the market responds ! If its a failire then simply quit and stick with their current OS...I just want Nokia to make sone Android models , I dont care abt BlackBerry. ..

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:39 2

11. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

Nokia is not "selling like hotcakes," it's the android that's selling like hotcakes. Nokia's marketshare is less than 4% in most places, and in few places it's ~10%. Besides, their "hotcakes" are so cheap, that they don't make any profit(lost more than 100million last quarter). If Nokia had gone to android, they would have had 4-10% of marketshare easily and would have made profit like the other android makers(LG, Sony, HTC).
BB is different than LG,Sony and HTC. They can separate themselves from other makers including Samsung by focusing on security and other BB-specific advantages. If BB had gone android, they'd be alot better off than now(on the market with no prospects). How could they possibly be worse than now??

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:45 2

14. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

Most pointless article ever written award goes too "Phonearena's Alan.F" yay......

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:47 1

16. Dastrix (unregistered)

Great article. I knew it all along, and I'm really happy that others feel the same way! :)
As you mentioned in the article, a 2.7% share of Android's profits were split by HTC, Motorola, Sony and others. Now, it would appear that Nokia is actually in a better position than these companies because the exact phenomenon is occuring with Windows Phone, albeit the majority of profits are earned by Nokia. With that in mind, the upcoming Sony i1 Honami might find itself in a much tougher battle, in that it would not only rival with iOS and WP, but also other Android OEMs i.e. the other stranded castaways on Android island. What these other OEMs fail to realize, however, is that they're pretty much standing on Samsung's home turf. They, as such, face a much fiercer battle than Nokia. Nokia made a good decision to go with WP in that respect. It still wouldn't hurt them if they made an Android flagship though, and see how that goes. That would be awesome! :)

You're totally right, I expect the same thing; that by next year, we could as well be talking about the big three. The battle has just started.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 18:44 1

61. ThreeFourSeven (Posts: 34; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)

Even with Microsoft pumping Nokia money. Nokia still hasn't made profit from their handset division. Nokia has only made profit from NSN, that's why they wanted full control. So you're basically saying, it's better for Nokia to make no profits from their handset division than the others sharing 2.7% of profits.

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:49 5

17. CELLKONTECH (Posts: 11; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)

This Analysis by phonearena is bad of all

Is there any person right now in this world who wouldn't buy a nokia smartphone running android jelly bean 4.3 os with 41mp beast camera on the back (if there was one) ...nokia must move to android :)

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 15:02

20. Dastrix (unregistered)

I agree, but wishful thinking much? xD

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 15:39 3

33. Hammerfest (Posts: 384; Member since: 12 May 2012)

I wont lie, I would purchase a nokia if it had Android on it...

I wouldnt touch Nokia with WP on it...

Personal preference, but I tried WP7, and while waiting for AT&T to rape my soul for phone service I played with a WP8 deivice this last week and... nope... over my dead body

posted on 16 Aug 2013, 14:50 5

18. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)

Nokia would have no problem at all grabbing androids 30% share out of 80% global market share. Nokia was the King and will be the King if they made some Android devices besides WP.i am a Nokia fan and always will b..I am using a crappy Samsung only bcuz Nokia does not adopted Android. ..i am100% certain that ppl will move away frm Samsung if Nokia steps in the Android game....I just hate Samsung designs and look...but what can I do I am bound to use it since I love Android but Nokia does not have android. ..:(

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