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Finally, Microsoft and Google to work together on an official YouTube Windows Phone app

0. phoneArena posted on 25 May 2013, 01:25

Well it looks like Microsoft was able to make a move that finally got Google’s attention. Now in the...

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posted on 25 May 2013, 05:15 1

27. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Scroogle should be available on android store

posted on 25 May 2013, 02:22 8

15. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

I wonder why it happened like this anyway. It would have been beneficial for Google to release a YouTube app for every system so that more people would be able to enjoy their service. The fact that Microsoft even had to resort to what they did is a little beyond me. Google should have done it right.

posted on 25 May 2013, 07:20 6

33. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

If you look at the way Microsoft treats Google publicly, you have your answer. It's not hard to figure out. Microsoft knows that in mobile OSes, Android is the one to beat. Therefore, they have launched a years long smear campaign against Google and Android with the logic of "If we simply make our competitor look terrible enough, people will buy our s**t even though it's not really better!"

Then, while Microsoft acts like a gigantic, throbbing peen toward Google, they expect Google to provide them with everything they need. I think it was perfectly reasonable of Google to give Microsoft the finger for a while.

posted on 25 May 2013, 08:18 1

39. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Wasn't that the idea behind the original "droid does" campaign?

posted on 25 May 2013, 08:32 12

41. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Actually no and I'll give you an example

Droid does campaign was:
You know you can multitask with us?
You know we have great apps?
You know we have free navigation?

MS ads
You know Google reads your email? (They also do it)
You know Google displays ads in your search results?
You know Google does

The difference was mainly of highlighted features the droid had (hence droid does) compared with ads that show no feature but direct attack over certain practices... MS has little focus on its features because compared there is not much to switch

posted on 26 May 2013, 12:22 1

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posted on 25 May 2013, 07:08 3

31. papss (unregistered)


Hopefully they nail them this time

posted on 25 May 2013, 07:22 8

34. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Nope. Hopefully they *don't.*

If the US government is going to let Apple trample all over tax code without taking action, they should let Google slide on whatever petty bulls**t they're trying to "nail" them on.

posted on 25 May 2013, 07:35 2

35. papss (unregistered)

Bud antitrust issues aren't petty, not sure why you wouldn't care. I also agree regarding Apple and have a real issue over the Xbox one with the always on kinect that I don't want watching me.. They should nail all of them

posted on 25 May 2013, 07:47 5

36. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

im sorry but all your just the other side of the same coin as those fanatical apple fanboys who believe apple should be allowed to do what they like

you praise google and defend them no matter what. you have the cheek to point at ms fanboys yet your the only one been one sided and sucking up to a company

google arent allowed to get away with everything, they spout out that there here for the customers yet it took ms making there own app to finally make google offer a service they didnt create (they bought youtube) for the wp user base

face facts if this was apple and they had bought youtube and werent offering there services to google and android you would be shouting all week on every article

posted on 25 May 2013, 07:59 4

37. papss (unregistered)

Agree 100%.. Wrong is wrong no matter who it is.

posted on 25 May 2013, 12:47 1

58. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)

All corporations, Google INCLUDED are doing what Apple is doing. Goggle uses Bermuda and Ireland as two of their many tax havens.

Congrats though on thinking that ONLY APPLE practices that... How that excuses a monopoly i have no idea... Perversity of American people.. Its like saying "Hey that guy is running an extortion racket! Oh wait some dude was found not guilty for commiting fraud.. I like the guy doing the extortion racket so lets let him off to becase the guy i hate was let go!!!".

posted on 25 May 2013, 08:26 6

40. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I doing get this people and their happy times with antitrust...

For starters not only Google but Microsoft was involved into antitrust for its dominant OS position, it occurs with everyone on the market that's on a dominant position (reason why apple hast not got too many antitrust issues in the past despite their closed system)

Also we all km now where this comes from, a and its a bunch of Google haters gathered in a lobby trying to find ways to say "oh look Google is worse than us" instead of improving their services they just trow mud at Google while pretending to play fair


posted on 25 May 2013, 08:50 3

43. papss (unregistered)

Oh, so it's fine then since it happened to others..smh you google fanboys are dense sometimes.

posted on 25 May 2013, 09:14 5

44. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Its not that I'm a Google fanboy my position on many of these antitrust is MEH most are here to cripple a certain companys effort to improve the user experience and many are common practices

posted on 25 May 2013, 12:55 1

61. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)

So you are willing to allow Monopolies based on the idea it may improve existing services? Companies are nice people looking to give you soft serve ice cream.

They are after one thing.. Money. They will bend laws, break laws, and bribe politicians in order to gain security at making as much capital as they can. Google was willing to violate US law and help the chinese government with censorship.

To believe they have your best interest and shouldn't be closely watched and viewed with scorn is absurd. These companies are weilding more power then what they should be. Technically google and Microsoft should both be broke up into multiple different companies like At&t (which law makers have let remake itself...).

posted on 25 May 2013, 13:43 6

63. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

You know companies also use the law to hindrance others? Just like how soccker players would fake injuries just to get free shots, the problem is when things are a legit or just an attempt to slow competition, its why my position is a Meh, for example let's look at apple ecosystem, no user outside apple has for example garage band, or imessage despite being quite popular, also no app store can complete with the app store in their phone OS and no service can replace the default services found in many apple based devices, yet there are little to no antitrust regulations for them because they don't meet a certain number on the market, same could be said about many services from other companies that do the same. so a laws that only works when you meet a certainly high number, has become a tool others use to abuse how's that fair? If antitrust would be something for the benefit of everyone it should apply for every company regardless of their market share instead of mainly those companies with big market, why? Because companies with smaller markets abusing this are obtaining more profit that many of those with the big shares.

posted on 25 May 2013, 11:16 1

52. freebee269 (Posts: 539; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

i was going to respect your opinion til you linked the verge as your source.

posted on 25 May 2013, 13:23 5

62. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

What's wrong with them? You can call most sources biased at some point, but the article has its correct information....

posted on 25 May 2013, 21:06 2

66. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Read the article Pro... That just went over a lot of people's head. Good find dude!

posted on 25 May 2013, 22:25 6

67. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

They have nice articles, and are quite direct about it, also its not that Google is a saint with a nice mentality but its competition its simply trying to make them look way worse that what they actually are (and many people are buying it). This YouTube issue for example was not about the lack of an api but some other things

If MS thought YouTube was so important, why not license it and pay Google a fee for YouTube like iOS did for a few years?, I mean android manufacturers are playing MS for things they need or tools that are compatible with their services so why MS needs to have it for free? And that's a starter.

posted on 25 May 2013, 11:46 2

54. taikucing (unregistered)

Google uses an algorithm to display the ads, it finds some words in your email that match some ads. It's a computer job. They don't read the emails one by one. If you think Google's employees read the emails one by one, it's impossible and a very exhausting job. There are millions mails in millions accounts. You think Google read them one by one? Think about it.

posted on 25 May 2013, 08:45

42. shreyasmhatre (Posts: 6; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)

How about both of them come together to make Google Hangouts for Windows 8!

posted on 25 May 2013, 09:59 1

47. boosook (Posts: 1442; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

microsoft=mafia, they're using the same methods: make a youtube app or we'll make our own that will cut out the ads. I hope this time google will ask microsoft a lot of money.

posted on 25 May 2013, 11:21

53. freebee269 (Posts: 539; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

i got a question for you. if youtube doesnt give you the API's to include their ads in your app, how do you add their ads to your app?

posted on 25 May 2013, 13:46

64. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Oh crap I forgot to send them the email, can you please send someone at MS this link?


posted on 25 May 2013, 10:05 1

49. aco96 (Posts: 242; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)

I hope it won't be as useless as the Android one.

posted on 25 May 2013, 12:33

56. roscuthiii (Posts: 2235; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

Wait, so the WP YouTube app will be made with Google's API, will follow Google's terms of service, and WP users will be served ads as well now? The app that MS users are saying is better now, will soon be replaced... and somehow this is painted as a Microsoft victory???

Okay, MS can claim the victory, but Google got exactly what they wanted all along here.

posted on 25 May 2013, 12:53 2

60. freebee269 (Posts: 539; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

i think the microsoft victory here is not that microsoft didnt want to have adds in their youtube app, but they just wanted a functional youtube app period. and google wasnt making it as easy to create that. now with both of them colaborating, windows phone will have a youtube experience the same as android and ios. that's the microsoft victory.

posted on 26 May 2013, 14:38

72. roscuthiii (Posts: 2235; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

Except that's not really how Google does business. As adamant as Apple has been about it's fight with Android, you can still find Google apps on iOS, and in a few cases they've even made the iOS app better than the Android app.

This all came down to the ads and who had control of them.

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