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Does Google's openness devalue Android?

0. phoneArena posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:32

Last week, we asked the question if Apple's anti-Google policies with iOS could be hurting the experience of its users, and it's only fair to look at the other side of the coin: Is Google's openness devaluing Android?...

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posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:39 36

1. sid07desai (Posts: 290; Member since: 03 May 2012)

I think Google's openness is Android's biggest strength. People get easily used to it. This is what makes it different from Apple.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:02 15

8. disneydad (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)

I agree. Watching how my father's business info was so locked into iOS after switching to Android really surprised me. Switching between Android, WP, and Symbian has been easy for me.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 19:03 2

23. joey_sfb (Posts: 6533; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

The real question we need to ask is, "do we want to use exclusive feature or app and become dependent on that platform?

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 21:08 6

27. MeoCao (unregistered)

Android is much better than other OSes and does not depend on exclusivity to thrive.

On the other hand iOS needs the closed garden and locked sheeps approach b-c Apple does not believe they can compete without it. What will happen if people realize they had to pay more to Apple for less? Too bad they are locked.

posted on 15 Aug 2012, 00:34 1

31. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

never take a different strategy, leave it as it is!! because this is true democracy! we do not want a dictate like rotten Apple wants us to be in!!
Do not try to spoil Google with misleading arguments!

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:40 11

2. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)



posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:48 19

3. Savage (unregistered)

Google's openness is both in its favor and against it. Openness allows it to reach more people at the cost of losing exclusivity.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:56 4

5. Hafiz (Posts: 78; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)

Well said

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:59 4

14. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

BUT even exclusivity has its own disadvantages.. I am definitely in favour of openness of Android, you can tweak android so much according you like!! thats not possible on iOS and Windows Phone :) (exclusivity)

So I think openness has benefited Google more than exclusivity!!

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:51 9

4. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)

Is this article sponsered by Apple?

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:02 3

9. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)

you know that it isn't

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 17:11 4

19. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

is anything remotely critical of android just hard to accept?

if anything, this article is far from criticism and I think nicely objective about android…

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:58 2

6. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 493; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Probably not, but it seems to really be stretching hard to build up a set of downsides and presents arguments that apply, in most cases, just as well against other platforms as against Android.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 12:59 5

7. disneydad (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)

Another excellent article Michael!
I concur with your point that needing an Android device is not necessary to experience Google features. In real world I have found that an Android device integrates much more seamlessly Google features than other OS devices do. I have a LG G-Slate tablet that integrates seamlessly with all of my business needs that are running through Google products. (Voice, Gmail, Drive)
I cannot say the same for HTC Radar running WP7.5. While there are certain features available on WP it pales in comparison to the experience on Android devices. As you mentioned, Google hasn't put much into WP because of it's market share but I don't see it integrating the same when WP8 comes out.
I think what truly devalues Android is that there is no value built into it. Marketing from Google is not extensive and it is common to come across an iOS user who believes that Android doesn't do everything that iOS does. It's not out of fanboy bias, but rather, no one has shown them the features.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:05

10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"...but it could be argued that it is holding back the platform from even better growth."

Speculative. Android is what it is. Google is making the investment it is comfortable making in Android and taking the technology where it feels it needs to go. Anything else is an exercise in coulda-woulda-shoulda.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:09 5

11. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Yes, it does. The fact that Google outs some of the best features of Android to other platforms makes Android somewhat less appealing to switch to. Why would you switch to Android, when you already have some of the features that Android brings? I mean, Google Chrome is out for iOS, but not Gingerbread, what is that? It went from Android 4.0 exclusive beta, and then it came out on iOS. Why not GB before iOS?

Google needs to give Android more exclusives to persuade users on other platforms to go to Android. Sure, Android does dominate market share for smartphones already, but why not make it even more so by giving Android more exclusive features? It's alright to be open, that's what Android was based on; openness. But why lose potential market share because of it? I'm not saying everything has to be exclusive, but just give people on other platforms more perks by switching to Android.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 17:57

20. Aeires (unregistered)

I disagree. Let's take Apple as an example, you can use Google Maps, Chrome, and other services but you're still stuck with iOS if you buy an iPhone. You still have a grid of icons and a lack of customize features. If you buy an MS phone, you have to live with live tiles. If you buy an Android phone, you get the openness the OS contains. Google baked in the important things, things Apple and MS will likely never offer because both made their ecosystems closed in comparison. It's Android's openness that makes it great, not a map, browser, or search function.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:22 2

12. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

You can actually get GOOGLE NOW without CWM recovery for flashing zips.
Simply go to the XDA site and follow instructions - you just need something like ROOT EXPLORER to help and change permissions.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 10:25

42. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

which is potentially even more difficult than flashing through CWM, and is of no use to the general public.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 13:25 4

13. blackc25 (Posts: 7; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)

Google's openness is the best part to the mobile industry and to the end users, the only thing Google needs to work on is quality control of the required hardware with their respective OEMS (What Microsoft has done with Windows 8) and to set up a stringent rule for timely updates from the OEMS.
And i wish Google operates in the same manner for its app with all the platform, never ever do what Apple is doing. Coz we are "Androids" and we are generous to all human kind and their OS.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 14:27 2

15. ilia1986 (unregistered)

I think Android needs to market itself a whole lot more - not just as an alternative to iOS - but as something unique and even more amazing than iOS is.

The best way to do that would be to announce a new killer feature before Apple - and then market this feature to it's full extent.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 18:00 1

21. Aeires (unregistered)

And TV ads. The Chrome and Nexus 7 ads are awesome, Android needs some of that love.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 14:36 1

16. AlexYouOC (Posts: 53; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)

I agree with this article 100%. I have never had an issue with the fact that Google is open, I love the fact that Android is the way it is. But there is no sense of exclusivity if all of the best features are just developed for rival OS'.

From a business standpoint, It makes sense. Push your product out to the masses so that everyone can take advantage of the Google experience. But as a devoted Android user, I would like to have at least 1 debate with an iPhone user without them saying "I can get that on my phone too".

If you really think about it, if Google were to soley focus their attention on developing for Android and only Android, alot more consumers would make the switch. Casual users just sway whichever way the wind blows. Let an article come out saying that iPhone no longer supports Google Maps, Voice, YouTube, Search, etc. Every iPhone user would be in an uproar.

Giving Android some some sort of exclusivity with Googles own apps and features would defintely, in my opinion, bring its value to new heights and attract more customers from the competition

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 16:43

17. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

tl;dr: no.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 16:56 1

18. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)

Lololololol but watch out you're gonna get banned by michael heller

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 20:23

25. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

If I ban people who can't read, how will they ever learn?

posted on 15 Aug 2012, 06:42

38. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

Oh I read it.

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 18:14 1

22. fragmentation (banned) (Posts: 31; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

Does microsoft openness hurt? What a joke Michael

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 10:27

43. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

What openness? Microsoft still doesn't have Office for Android, let alone Hotmail/Outlook apps, Bing Maps, etc for other platforms. Microsoft builds for Windows alone with a little bit of web here and there

posted on 14 Aug 2012, 20:48

26. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

Android is Google everywhere product either. u can see it on Samsung, HTC, Huawei, Sony, LG, Motorola, local build suc as Mito, Nexian, Cross, ect. So Android is part of Google everywhere product but it is in OS division not software/web applications.

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