Do you agree with Samsung's new focus on design-centric devices?

A recent poll of ours revealed that out of the 7 Galaxy S flagships Samsung has released to date, the previous-gen Galaxy S5 is only ahead of the original Galaxy S in terms of appearances, and not by much. That's a distressing thought, and the South Korea-based company must have agreed, for it axed the executive responsible for the design of the S5 shortly after it received a mostly unanimous 'NO' from critics and consumers alike...
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107 Comments

54. javy108

Posts: 1004; Member since: Jul 27, 2014

I would need Removable battery...

61. Shocky unregistered

Why? ....

9. Awalker

Posts: 1968; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Most reviews I've seen say that the battery life sucks.

23. Shocky unregistered

Then your reading the wrong reviews, the battery life is fairly good on the Galaxy S6 and battery life is better than most competitors Users should get around 4 hours screen on time, less or more depending on usage.

26. Kary1

Posts: 300; Member since: Jun 26, 2015

Battery life is not the only reason to have a removable battery.

48. Shocky unregistered

The only reason to have a removable battery to replace it, there are various reasons you may need to replace a battery. None of which I've ever experienced a need for so it's not high on my priority list.

78. Kary1

Posts: 300; Member since: Jun 26, 2015

Wrong. I mentioned 7 reasons above, only two of which pertain to replacing the battery.

70. nahusiv

Posts: 100; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

the S6 Active is the best battery lifer in the world so your argument is invalid

73. Nathillien unregistered

You just need to visit Geekbench site to get informed.

3. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

I prefer the shift to design-centric over the old approach, but if they could find a way to incorporate premium design AND dropped features like removable battery, waterproofing, and SD card slot, I think they'll really have something going.

8. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Please get your facts right mate sd card reader do not work with ufs 2.0 so it 1 or the other and I talk ufs 2.0 ( ufs needs max bamdwidth and sd card reader damage bamdwidth big time, they do not work the same on phones as they do on pc's it be like having to put it on the same cable on your ssd on your pc, as pc's sd card readers run of USB type ports and not the dirert ssd bus controler

14. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

...And if Samsung is able to get SD cards to work well with UFS 2.0 would you be singing the same song?

30. Shocky unregistered

Even if they did it would lead to the same issue we had before, they would get greedy and release 16Gb versions and then claim the sdcard is the solution. When it clearly is not, lets never go back there again, easiest way to make sure that never happens again is to never use microsd cards. The damn things always die eventually anyway, I've had three 64GB cards just stop working over time, I'm not buying anymore.

34. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

I agree, but I'm also speaking very idealistically here. I don't think it would hurt Samsung to be a little idealistic too.

83. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

There is no way that can be done, also the 7420 only works with the ufs 2.0 due to the needed bandwidth, on a small note there is a very big gap on the bandwidth sped of the note 4 and the 1+ and the iPhone, both are way faste than the note 4 due to the sd card reader

74. Krjal

Posts: 423; Member since: Dec 19, 2013

Actually they work perfectly fine together. I don't know where you're getting this misinformation from. There's no bandwidth bottleneck because not even ufs uses the whole bridge capacity of the latest exynos chipsets. The ONLY issues are 1. Slower speeds when accessing or writing data stored on the sd card. 2. Not as many people would buy the higher internal memory models. 3. Cost in manufacturing the physical access to the card reader in the metal and glass body.

84. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hahahahh, yes right in all tests the 1+ and the iPhone all have way faster bandwidth speeds than the note 4 due to the sd card reader, ufs needs more bandwidth to work so you need no tech info to be up in it not working, I take it back when you show me a phone or tablet with sd card reader and ufs 2.0 working at the same time, phones do not use sd card in the same way as pc's, I.e. Where they linked to like USB and so on

81. QWERTYphone

Posts: 654; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

If you really believe they can't include removable storage without compromising speed, you're an idiot.

85. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hm, nope you have no idea what you are on about as always Emmc 5.0 that in most hi end phone like iphone 6 and older Samsung phones is part of the same control setup as sd card so work with them without problem on the same controler at a small cost Seehttp://arasan.com/products/emmc50/sd3-emmc-5-0-host/ But ufs 2.0 uses a new controller system so it not going to work, without putting in 2 controllers and somehow linking them, hm not going to happen due to cost and to get lowers speeds why add ufs to start with http://arasan.com/products/ufs/ufs-host/ Please do not post bad things about Samsung when you have no idea what you are on about

90. Tuxedo

Posts: 356; Member since: Mar 19, 2013

There is always a way... If it can be done externally via USB OTG, there is no reason it can't be done internally. They just know they have enough leverage to do without it.

96. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Yes it can be done by USB otg but the OS is not setup to always have that on so battery that it will use and it will lag even more and cost to add a 2nd USB port into the phone is not good and the size of adding it have you noted the size of a USB controler, you have to have 2 in the phone so you able to transfer direct on to the sd card, as if they going. To do all that just to add sd cards that Can only be used for music and so on, no apps can be installed You also better off using wifi sd card key ring over the above setup

97. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I bet 1000$ that no phone company in the next 3 years that adds ufs to there phone adds sd card support using usb ( they may do it with a tablet due to size)

98. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

The only way I can see them doing on a phone is using the new USB type c controler, may work, if so you may get it with the note 5 but that the only way and because it's bigger, or note 6 but it will be the only way they do it, not 100% on what can be done with the new type c controler

99. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I be thinking only China companies will go out of there way to do this to add sd cards and that it, I can not see Samsung doing any of the above to get this working or any other USA and UK sold phone or something doing it like lg and htc and Sony that have then now as soon as they can get ufs and CPU to run them sd card out the window

100. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Please note that all oems at this time only add sd card reader as its a low cost add on to the old emmc 5.0 controler, if they got to go out of there way to redesign there phone and add a big cost to get this working then it's out of the phone within sec And soon some CPU like Samsung 7420 will only work with ufs so when that happens it's game over for sd cards

37. psychox911

Posts: 10; Member since: May 10, 2014

http:/ / forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/solutio​n-lack-micro-sd-removable-t3145580

4. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

Design centric debate is long expired, in 2015 we should ask about price competitive rather. People can easily pick honor 7 and meizu mx5 over this overpriced

10. bucky

Posts: 3774; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

there is room in the market for these devices but I feel as though they still come with compromises. Also, if I am buying something I will take into account the name of the device that represents quality and support. I prefer samsung and apple when it comes to this. I trust Sony for quality as well but they seem to be falling a bit.

13. yoosufmuneer

Posts: 1518; Member since: Feb 14, 2015

Depends on the region. I know that Xaomi, Huawei and Meizu among others deliver great tech at a lesser price point BUT the innovation would stop. Because there isn't much profit. Everyone would be using the Same kinda tech in mobile phones. Anything that Xaomi/Huawei/Meizu innovated and kinda changed the industry? Nope. Nothing remarkable. In fact Xaomi's Mi4i uses a Samsung/Sony Sensor and depends on Samsung for battery cells. They are dependent on each other but there should be innovation to drive away the difficulties we are facing.

32. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

No innovations? Meizu - mCharge quick charging technology Huawei - smart 3G-LTE switching Xiaomi - Sunlight display Don't look down on these three big Chinese boys, seriously. They do innovate, might not be remarkable, but still useful nonetheless.

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