Dismal flagship sales report reveals there isn't much money in Android

There have never been so many great phones at every screen size and in every price segment than this season, and never so great value-for-money phones. From the 5" waterproof Xperia M5 with 20 MP camera, through the $150 Redmi Note 2 that offers a 5.5" 1080p display and camera with phase detection autofocus, to the premium $700 Note5 which has the best screen-to-body ratio for its display size, there is something for everyone out there...
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185 Comments

79. tedkord

Posts: 17358; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Your stupidity probably makes your parents cry, but no one else.

112. cheetah2k

Posts: 2256; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

He doesnt have parents, he was born in an apple test tube

150. 99nights

Posts: 1152; Member since: Mar 10, 2015

LMAO so true. +1000

184. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Sure teddork. If it makes you sleep at night kiddo.

191. meanestgenius

Posts: 22098; Member since: May 28, 2014

He's not lying. I'd cry too if I had a child that lacked intelligence and all around common sense like you do.

21. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Sad but true. I love Android, I love Motorola, I would never buy an iPhone myself, but Android is just not viable if you want to make money.

31. TSMan2

Posts: 363; Member since: Aug 20, 2015

Explain what is "sad" for you, ignorant. You want less great new high-end tech with more rip-off ??? Is that so??? WOW

66. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I want the companies I respect to make a profit off their Android product lines so that competition keeps up. A company like Sony or HTC can't keep losing money and stay in the phone market. We lose a major player like them and the industry is poorer for it.

113. TSMan2

Posts: 363; Member since: Aug 20, 2015

That is the competitions. And it work's for the consumers, but not for the sellers, ignorant. If HTC can not keep up, they will sell their BS phones for half price. If you like HTC phones , why are you not happy with that? If they wanna survive they must do something. Only Apple is safe so far, because the zombies have no choice for other iOS competitor. So they can rip-off the zombies with old tech. For how long, more? The future will say.

48. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Nothing sad about it, companies will come and go but Android won't die. The fact that they aren't making money either means mismanagement or wastage. If you sell 7 million phones like Sony and generate a loss, that means you are wasting money on their too much overhead or marketing or just products people aren't willing to buy. Guaranteed they aren't selling even one of those 7 million at a loss. In the end, the only reason Apple makes that much money on their iPhones is not because of some iOS magic, it is because they use the cheapest components possible for as long as possible, while pricing the phones really high. They then pour most of the money to push them into marketing and glitz while making sure it is hard as hell to leave the ecosystem and use planned obsolescence tactics to keep their market buying more. They also only sell 4 phone models at any one time and are able to keep the supply chain tight as hell. Anyone (like Samsung or HTC), who produce 50 different phone models differentiated primarily by name deserve to lose money and go out of business.

114. TSMan2

Posts: 363; Member since: Aug 20, 2015

"Anyone (like Samsung or HTC), who produce 50 different phone models differentiated primarily by name deserve to lose money and go out of business" No they deserve respect from the customers.

62. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

False. I make money from both IOS and Android. In fact I make more money from Android. Since my company repairs phones, I make more money from Android phones because there are more of them to repair. In fact same for Windows PC vs Macs. We repair those too. We dont make any products on repairing Apple devices because parts supplies are minimal on purpose to keep costs high. For example, the cost of buying parts for the iPhone 6 Series is so high vs Android, that we typical order just enough to do a certain amount of repairs per month, while Android phone parts are cheaper due to so many suppliers tryign to undercut others. In fact, in my warehouse right now, we have parts stockpile for phones as old as year 2003 that still sell. But we have a spot just for example iPhone 4 parts that barely move in comparison. What we do make a lot of money on with Apple is, with insurance companies liek Asurion, SquareTrade and others, there are so many iPhone claims for repairs. Those claims reach double figure millions every quarter. In fact we repair 3 times as many iPhones vs the most popular Android. Example...in just 30 days after the iPhone 6's were released, we repair nearly 10,000 phones the very first week after 30 days on the market. With the Galaxy S6 and Edge combine, the first week after it was on the market for 30 days we repair less than 2000 units. The repairs? Were not even from breakage. They were mostly repairs where the person bought the phone, brought it back because they didnt want/like and we refurbish and inspect them. Out of the 10,000 iPhone we got that first week after 30 days, the biggest of the repairs were for broken glass and bent chassis. Many of the ones bent never even made it to customers hands. They were damage during shipping. Like we had a batch damage from the forklift drive hitting a skid of phones with the forks, some because they had fallen and the weight of the other boxes on top smashed them.

71. darkkjedii

Posts: 31072; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Dude, if you're gonna post something like this, provide proof. Do you have any idea how this sounds? End of response.

78. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

You know that's not what I meant. OEMs don't make money. You're not making money selling iOS or Android, you're making money off people breaking and returning stuff.

84. keekai05

Posts: 116; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

Okay so you're saying you repaired 10,000 iPhone 6's in the 1st 30 days it was launched? Holy cow! Are those for real? Why would a "normal" person go to a non-Apple shop to have his/her NEW iPhone fixed/repaired? You should apply as a scriptwriter or something similar to that. Great story though. But only "smart" people like you will believe your story. Nice try.

117. Jamoga

Posts: 187; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

exactly ^^ lol.

187. darkkjedii

Posts: 31072; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Lmao. Good post.

116. Jamoga

Posts: 187; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

you are pure BS. you have no respect for an ecosystem, or a particular one, that's y you don't make money in it. For what i see is, iPhone costs alot, parts cost alot and repair fees also costs alot; comparatively. and with so many damaged iphones as you say; yet you're not making money. Maybe you're doing it wrong.

192. Plutonium239

Posts: 1217; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Android doesn't have any parts costs, or any parts to speak of aside from different sections of code. You can't speak of Android as a physical device like you do iPhone. It would be more accurate to say that most devices that run android have a better supply of spare parts.

110. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I blame Bobbybuster.

142. xdza1979

Posts: 296; Member since: Aug 08, 2015

Only Google does.

2. mobi_user

Posts: 152; Member since: Jun 18, 2013

There is a saying that do one thing but do it good. That is what Apple is doing. This article should have included Xiaomi and Micromax too.

9. AstronautJones

Posts: 305; Member since: Aug 01, 2012

Doing one thing good? This article proves they are best at overcharging customers, and convincing them it is worth it!

16. fyahking

Posts: 1146; Member since: Jan 28, 2015

Yes, they are good at overcharging you.

3. bur60

Posts: 981; Member since: Jul 07, 2014

Poor numbers.... Seems like marketing = sales. F*ck innovation and things. Just go all in marketing and pretty talk = profit

8. c.hack

Posts: 614; Member since: Dec 09, 2009

When "innovation and things" are worthless gimmicks, that's true. Instead of more worthless junk into droids every year, why not lower the price - that's what people would buy.

39. bur60

Posts: 981; Member since: Jul 07, 2014

Well, look at the Xperia Z3compact, 720p screen, smaller device than iphone6, 4,6 inch, flagship specs and sd card. Oh yea also waterproof. Still didn't even sell 25% of what iPhone 6 did. Marketing = sales

52. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

Well, I will say this, if the Z3c were sold on more carriers (or able to be bought as a carrier unlocked device and used on VZW/Tmo/Att/etc, I would have already bought one. Unfortunately, it's not. That's a sony problem.

4. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Is this not due to the fact that the up and coming Chinese brand are saturating the market with very cheap and affordable devices. Samsung, HTC, Sony etc.. should have seen this coming if you produce in a country that has cheap labor sooner or later an enterprising soul is going to copy what you make and sell it for even cheaper than what the bigger players are trying to command in the U.S.

5. letosaw

Posts: 135; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Bobbybuster where ar u ?
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