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Did Sprint catch the lifeline with the iPhone 4S or does that lifeline come from a sinking ship?

0. phoneArena posted on 05 Oct 2011, 08:27

Sprint has seen better times. The carrier’s stock has gone down and down, and down, and it seems that every time it hits a deeper bottom. Actually, shares of the carrier plunged just after the iPhone 4S…

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posted on 05 Oct 2011, 08:36

1. Nah (unregistered)


posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:02

3. Synack (Posts: 682; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)

Sprint is f*cked. Apple is f*cked. But Apple has enough money to last itself until they reveal the iPhone5 which will HOPEFULLY be innovative unlike the iPhone4S. Sprint will have to hold on for dear life until the 5 is released IF they truly did buy exclusive rights to the iPhone5.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:34

8. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)

The people who think the iPhone is the best can now get it and all the smart people will go for wimax phones

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:05

4. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)

Sinking ship

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:09 1

5. Beltway Bill (unregistered)

maybe, if Sprint will offer a lower price, truly unlimited data plan. Then they would have a knockout blow to Big V and ATTica

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:51 1

14. ZayZay (Posts: 571; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)

Really?? Lower than what they have?? You must shop at walmart if you want that low of prices.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:30

19. Big Nate (unregistered)

I buy my ammo at Wal-Mart... what's wrong with that?

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:59

22. ZayZay (Posts: 571; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)

Didn't say anything was wrong, just cheap.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:13 1

6. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

its good for sprint as it kills a reason for people to leave. since none of the other sprint-iphone rumors turned out to be true, hopefully they didnt actually bet the farm. If they did then they are in trouble, as with the same phone being on the big 3 carriers there is little incentive to switch if you are happy with your carrier.

So yea, it will stop some bleeding, but i dont think its going to be a big IV drip of new subscribers... maybe from Tmo customers running from the ATT merger, but thats probably where the bulk of new subscribers will come from.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:22 4

7. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 601; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)

I so don't regret my EVO 3D purchase.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:45 1

13. Naytess (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Jun 2010)

Nor do I ;^{D>

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:44 1

9. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

Willing to take the minority stand here. I think this will end up being a long term good deal for Sprint. Yes, the iPhone 4S looks on paper to be a disapointment, and I am sure not swayed to look at Apple even a little bit. But, you can not buy name recognition, and having Apple products to bring people into the Sprint stores instead of having them run to AT&T or Verizon is more important. Apple will have to, HAVE TO, come out with a more powerful iPhone 5 in the next year if they want to stay in the lead dog postion, and Sprint will get to play with the big two when it comes out. If Sprint can get rid of the iDen network (what is taking them so long on that? It is a huge money pit.) and get an LTE network rolling at a pace that at least keeps up with AT&T even if Verizon is way ahead of them both, than this Apple gamble will add, not detract, from their future. Sprint has a ton of questions to answer, but at least they can answer them on a level playing field. They already have great relationships with Samsung, HTC, and Motorola, now they have Apple as well. They HAD to do it.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:15

11. Synack (Posts: 682; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)

They won't be in the lead dog position much longer. Samsung Galaxy S2's are selling like hotcakes. Then Samsung will definitely pull ahead with the Prime. I just saw a picture of it earlier today and wow, the people wanting a redesign from the iPhone can SURE AS HELL get it from the Nexus Prime. That thing looks AMAZING!

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:56 2

10. twashington4 (Posts: 81; Member since: 24 May 2010)

There are tons owners of Android high-end phones on Sprint that no idea what they have. Most of them probably wanted an IPhone, but it wasn't available so they got an EVO 3D, Photon, or Galaxy S2 because it was closest to the IPhone. Plus, Sprint is gonna advertise the heck out of it especially if Apple is getting better kickbacks than Motorola or HTC. Trust me, the biggest display in the Sprint store will be the Apple IPhone while the superior Android phones sit on their little display pole with a small specifications tag next to it. That's the way it goes folks.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:35

12. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)

For the average, the iphone 4s is a great phone, it has everything that want and need. I know many people who wanted to leave Sprint because they wanted an iPhone now they can stay with Sprint and still have their normal deal. So it is a win, win for sprint. Maybe they can get some Verizon or ATT customer who no longer have unlimited data to come over. Many of these people don't know what 4g LTE so why would they care.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 11:15 1

15. theBankRobber (Posts: 682; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)

I think its a great move, at&t got huge because it was the only carrier to offer the iPhone at that time. Now Sprint can offer the iPhone with cheaper plans, (even better if a family moves to Sprint ). Now Sprint has the best line up with the best prices, only people who disagree are blind and can't see a lot of iPhone users are on other carriers and can NOW change over to Sprint and trade their carrier iPhone towards the purchase of a Sprint iPhone. Regardless if you hate the iPhone or not, it sells, and this will help get more people a option to switch to Sprint and get more bang for the buck.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 11:29

16. cdgoin (Posts: 571; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)

I want a Dell Venue Pro for the Sprint Network.. that or somethign similar in a WindowsPhone.. then I would switch from Tmobile.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:11

17. yupyup (unregistered)

Being that I use to work for sprint the company has messed up every big phone they have gotten there hands on. We all remember the pre and who can for get the iphone killer samsung instinct. Working for big red now, seeing how great my coverage and service really sets them apart from the others. Yeah, sure it will stop the bleeding for a while but it won't get them out of the whole. apple is apple its going to sell I think its to late for sprint.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:29

18. Landmarkcm (Posts: 506; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)

Ya Ive had like 10 phones with Sprint. My timing again was perfect to jump on the Iphone bandwagon got another discount but settled with the EvoSHIFT which I love. I hope Sprint isn't betting there whole biz pretty much as reports say on the Iphone.. My friend whos had it even said ya they make good hardware etc but they lock you down as far as customization you have to you use your pc for most updates etc, music only through Itunes, & even apps that are free on Android like Vlingo which is great Apple charges for! So needless to say. I wont be joining the Iphone sheep anytime soon. & im sure alot of others on sprint who are happy w Android feel the same..

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:36

20. roy (unregistered)

i hope the iphone can save sprint because the more carriers we have the better. i love my android(epic touch 4g)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:58

21. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)

It appears that T-Mobile may have played it right by not getting the iPhone. Granted, they may not be a carrier long enough to even enjoy the spoils but at least they didnt take the chance..

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:14

23. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

Apple probably would have released on T-Mobile also if not for the whole buyout deal which is still pending.

If T-mobile remains unscathed from the buyout and doesnt lose any significant number of customers, they will get an Iphone next year. Apple wants to meter the releases rather than just dump them on every carrier at once. Im sure it was probably originally planned for Sprint to get Iphone 4 at the same time that Verizon did, but for whatever reason didnt pan out with their sprint negotiations so they decided to just do Verizon for the time being.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:47

24. freemarketeer (Posts: 28; Member since: 05 Jun 2010)

I do not believe that the acquisition of the iPhone line for Sprint will be able to save Sprint for several reasons. Granted, some of this is based on rumors and speculation and as yesterday proved, even "solid" sources can be wrong. The first and most obvious reason is cash. If the reports are true and Sprint has laid out roughly $20-30 billion to close the deal with Apple, they may end up only exacerbating their current cash flow problems. Couple this with their lagging network development and apparent lack of strategy and they could find a number of customers flocking to Verizon or ATT if a 4G LTE iPhone materializes next year. It is rather paradoxical in that they need subscribers to increase cash flows however the manner in which they are doing it is not profitable (trying to be the least expensive carrier) and if they attempt to change that model, they no longer have a clear competitive advantage. I believe Sprint will continue to deteriorate both in customers and in revenue, given the much larger lead that Verizon, and to a lesser extent, AT&T, have on them. I think next year ultimately will be Verizon's year given the explosion of LTE equipped devices combined with the shear size of their network that they will be able to operate on.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 15:08 1

26. Brody (unregistered)

FYI: Both AT&T and Verizon's primary growth has been through acquisitions as was Sprint's back in 2005 with their merger (purchase) of Nextel, albeit not as successful a merger as those of the aforementioned two!

Anyway, when you compare, device portfolio, rate plans, customer service and spectrum available for the future, Sprint is poised to be a player in the wireless industry. And in fact a carrier that all U.S. customers need and should want to support because it will be Sprint that keeps our cost to wireless services down!

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:50

25. Brody (unregistered)

Bottom line, getting the iphone is a huge positive for Sprint! As far as the investors/analyst that are saying "Sprint is betting the farm...", I don’t think so. First, they are not committing to 30 million 4GS version iphones, they are committing to buying $20 billion worth of iphones over the next several years, which broken down could be viewed as roughly 2.5 million a quarter for the next 4-years? Not unrealistic, with current customer base, high customer satisfaction scores and unlimited data plans. Finally, Sprint’s commitment to Apple will eventually include an iphone 5 or even a lower cost iphone 4 for their Boost Mobile or Virgin Mobile brands (probably VM), which would be another huge win for Sprint, being these brands open up an even larger pool of customers and can possibly be sold at price points that don't necessarily yield high equipment subsidies? In closing, Sprint will have to watch their budget closely over the next few quarters but the future is bright!

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 16:17

27. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

I personally would have preferred Sprint spend that money on overhauling its network and worry about getting the Iphone later. I get a lot of customers complaining about coverage sometimes, and an Iphone wont appease those customers (I dunno, maybe it would, Iphone 4 had terrible antenna and its the single most popular phone ever, I guess iSheep are easy to please) but improved and expanded network coverage would help.

It would also help if Verizon didnt purposely run their network on frequencies other than 800 mhz, which both them and sprint share so we can roam on each other's towers, Im shocked that Verizon's tactics of not living up to their roaming agreements with Sprint and other CDMA carriers hasnt been investigated by the FCC yet, something's gotta be illegal there. I think Verizon should be paying out billions in damages to Sprint and other CDMA carriers which have poor roaming coverage while they fully honor Verizon phones that gotta roam.

posted on 06 Oct 2011, 00:48

28. RAIDERWILL (Posts: 22; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

Man.. My Customized 4G LTE Droid Charge @ 1300 mhz is feeling real good right about now.. How many jump on the Nexus Prime only to find out at CES in 90 days the Samsung Galaxy SIII debuts with Quad-Cores and @ a reported 2000 mhz with 1.5 gigs of Ram.. I got sick of waiting back in June for the SII Glad I jumped in and got the Charge and Grandfathered the Unlimited 4G in forever.. I will just pay cash for the SIII next June and enjoy what I have til then.. Still plays every HD game I have thrown at it in SuperAmoled+ Glory without even breathing hard...

posted on 12 Oct 2011, 15:06

29. vester65 (unregistered)

I can't understand y in 2days ecomony people like myself who work hard 4 a check,would want 2 pay more for their plan than Sprint offers. Does it really matter if u drop a call if u can call back n it not cost u a thing? Just a question.
Now u can get ur beloved iPhone with unlimited data, 4 my money it's Sprint.

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