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Despite day off from court proceedings, Judge Koh has busy day with rulings

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Aug 2012, 17:48

Despite a day off in court on Thursday, Judge Lucy Koh had a busy day making rulings which actually limit the type of evidence that Samsung can produce to prove that an Apple patent is invalid or not infringed upon...

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posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:26 8

12. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

At least Samsung has several hundred grounds to have this case thrown-out on appeal.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:27 3

13. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

way to give sammy the disadvantage you whuer.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:30 11

14. Aeires (unregistered)

I think at this point Samsung should just move ahead with a request to have the case moved to a higher judge. From what I've read about Koh, she's an extremely hard worker that has some background in IP, but is a rookie judge and her decisions are showing she's in over her head with this case. Too much is riding on the outcome for an inexperienced judge to preside over. She clearly has no clue on the concept of prior art.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:42 7

18. Zayuh24 (Posts: 149; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

My thoughts exactly. Samsung has no chance of winning this under Koh. It doesn't even seem legal that Samsung isn't allowed to use any of its evidence to prove its case.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:46 6

20. Diego! (Posts: 677; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)

Samsung's attorneys should ask for her removal. She is totally insane. They won't be able to prove anything if she is still ruling this trial.
I just can't believe it!

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:33 7

15. sp3llv3xit (Posts: 20; Member since: 15 Sep 2011)

She is a Job's disciple.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:37 6

16. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)

Heck sammy should request a new judge thats not so biased towards apple and will look at both sides. it may seem like a cry baby move and might tick off Koh but when you disallow evidence that is made from your own company its like shes just low ballin them.

Or maybe shes hating on Sammys cust service record with her own experience with them. either way shes on a sliding scale with her leaning towards apple.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 18:59 3

24. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

she should have her own tv show

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 19:22 1

27. Aeires (unregistered)

In less than a years time, there'll be a made for TV movie. Bank on it.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 19:27 2

29. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

U shouldnt even be on this site.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 23:29

63. tedkord (Posts: 14135; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Oh, God no. There are too many damned judge shows on now, and I'm sick of sitting through them as my wife watches. Judge Judy, Judge Joe Brown, Judge This, Judge That.

I want to punch my TV while she's watching them.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 19:04 6

25. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Samsung should request the US Supreme Courts to remove Judge LUCY KOH for discrimination and unfair trials.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:38 6

40. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

"On January 20, 2010, on the recommendation of Senator Boxer, President Obama nominated Koh to fill a seat on the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. "

Well.. found yet ANOTHER thing Obama has screwed up...

There is just no reason she should be so one sided. Its ridiculous... well, exept for her personal writings which may shed some light on the issue...

"Koh had a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on February 11, 2010. She received some questions from Republican Senator Jeff Sessions regarding her writings in law school where she said that minority judges must maintain the "disguise of objectivity" or face challenges. " Disguise of objectivity... aka, give them your poker face even though you made up your mind long before the trial was over and all the evidence was presented. Doesnt sound very impartial to me.. also sounds like a judicial activist instead of a Judge.

This is her first case of merrit. How did she end up in this position? She has zero experience in the matter. This court case could possibly change the face of mobile electronics which is one of the worlds biggest growth vectors right now... and the judge will be mediated by a rookie activist with an obvious impartiality.


posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:56 6

47. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

I will admit it does not look good for Samsung and the court's bias has already showed up before the case began. APPLE is the darling of America - I wonder how much influence our government is having on this case and on the judge.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 22:30 1

55. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Starts to make you wonder exactly what SJ and Obama talked about in those private meetings in 2010/2011, eh? Now that Obama's fresh judicial pick is the one to oversee this case... with no prior experience in a case of this magnitude OR in mobile patent issues.

Let the conspiracy theories run wild!!

posted on 03 Aug 2012, 02:35 1

67. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You're pathetic to spin a conspiracy theory on this. Even for a troll like you this is a whole new level.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 23:18 1

60. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Merit has only one "r" like in remixfa.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:39 6

41. mukrenol (Posts: 92; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)

what are FAIR trial... judge....

i wonder if Koh is sponsored by iProducts....

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:42 5

42. joey_sfb (Posts: 6617; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

She has placed her bet on Samsung losing by issuing a preliminary injunction against galaxy tab and galaxy nexus. If Samsung were to win, if will show that she is incapable of making sound decision.

As far as she is concerned all bets are off, Samsung must lose!

The iPad and iPhone are good products, the Galaxy tab series are viable choices as they offer customer a different choice. Their UI is different, their screen size is different, their whole eco-system such as online and cloud services are different.

To me Apple has declared war against the right for other businesses to compete and that against consumer interest, my interest!

My Macbook Pro is due for an upgrade and i have been eyeing on the retina display Macbook Pro on the sideline. This trial has made me decided against buying any Apple products.

I will support Samsung and put my money there instead.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:45 7

43. renegadeXC (Posts: 4; Member since: 02 Aug 2012)

This is gonna sound racist, but being Asian myself, I believe I have the right to say. It seems to me that Asians, once the become citizens of a "Caucasian" country have the tendency to try to "out-white" the white people. It's not the first time I have seen this kind of behaviour and I doubt it will ever be the last. Living in Australia, its extremely evident. They try to be more white than the whites. They go all-out to protect their "new" country from other Asians. Who do you really think is behind the anti-immigration policies? These Asians who already citizens are the ones hell bent against other Asians getting citizenship. Unfortunately, I believe Judge Koh is one of them. Apple is seen as an American company which she must protect at all costs, Samsung is the Asian invader who's now a threat to the American giant. I know this post may inflame some people here, but remember I'm Asian and I'm criticising my own people on this.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:56 7

46. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)

You'r a iFan.....!

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 21:50

52. metoyou (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Im agree with you on this but to clarify few things. it's not they try to protect their new country rather being show off, arrogant and try to prove they are some fxcking loser no less no more just loser

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 23:19 1

61. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

They are called "bananas" as in yellow on the outside but white on the inside. However, it's racism period.

Lastly, there's no rule about racism within one's own ethnicity. Asians can be racist against other Asians.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 20:52 5

45. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Well, if APPLE wins this case and wins the appeal then they could sue all OEMs....yippee....NOT!!

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 21:25 3

49. tedkord (Posts: 14135; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

This car won't be over no matter how this ends. Koh had given Samsung so much appeal material, they might just as well stop this trial and go to the next level. She even commented that they had appeal grounds based on her exclusion rulings.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 22:05 1

53. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

wow, talk about an incompetent judge....

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 21:26 1

50. tedkord (Posts: 14135; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Case, not car. Goddamned auto correct.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 21:46 2

51. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

Most of you are dumb as s**t. Attacking a judge solely because she doesn't just dismiss the case and give Samsung a big kiss on the lips. The real fandroids are really showing how petty and pathetic they are here. You all know nothing of the judicial system yet you're debating like you graduated law school and did research papers on Judge Koh. Take your heads out of your asses and keep your dumb biased comments to yourself.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 22:06 3

54. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

pot meet kettle...or is that dumas?

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 23:23 1

62. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

It's more like android fanboys want to go lynch an Asian judge because she's not ruling in Samsung's favor.

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