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Designed for quick updates, why hasn't the CDMA Samsung GALAXY Nexus received Android 4.1?

0. phoneArena posted on 26 Aug 2012, 15:34

With Android 4.1 introduced in June. why hasn't Verizon updated the Samsung GALAXY Nexus?; this is supposed to be a pure Google experience phone designed to receive quick updates while the International model of the Samsung Galaxy S III is expected to get updated this coming week...

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posted on 26 Aug 2012, 15:41 9

1. Femto (Posts: 61; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)

Inexcusable. Weak. End of story.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 15:42 8

2. cjo1992 (Posts: 25; Member since: 04 May 2012)

I'm assuming Verizon users will be getting it around this time next year. Took a long time for Verizon Nexus owners to get 4.04.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 21:06 2

42. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

It won't take a year, but Verizon testing is certainly to blame, just like with the 4.0.4 update. I'd bet the Verizon GNex gets Jelly Bean before the end of the year.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 21:34 4

44. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

I'm sure he was exaggerating.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 15:48 6

3. androidornothing (Posts: 143; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

We come to the conclusion that you shouldnt rely on carriers to give you updates because they always screw things up. If you really want the latest and greatest you should just root and get a custom ROM. i havent done that yet with my Verizon GS3 but if Jelly Bean takes too long to get on verizon i might just root and get Sexy Bean loll

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:41

60. thelegend6657 (unregistered)

Just buy unlocked , easy and simple .
Why you Americans like contracts so much ?

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 01:00

63. CommentBoxEnforcer (Posts: 99; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)

Cause Verizon network the s**t

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 11:38

67. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

verizons network is great, how ever, in reality your paying nearly double that of Tmobile to get only a few % better coverage nation wide. If you dont travel a lot or are not out in the boonies, your just blowing your $$.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 15:58 1

4. imkyle (Posts: 1087; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)

When you buy a phone from a carrier expect not to get the updates asap. If you want the update either root the device like one user said or shell out hundreds of dollars for the unlocked version. Big red and Sprint are pathetic with updates. The other two seem to be trying at least.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:00 6

5. 14545 (Posts: 1676; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

one of the many reasons I'm considering leaving verizon. It's one thing to hold up the updates(but not the source) on devices like the Rezound(which I own) and other carrier locked phones. But on a Dev device, just update the damn thing. It's not like we are talking about an S3, or Bionic, we are talking about a phone that most normal customers don't buy. Not to mention, VZW needs to revise their testing policy. My rezound had the ICS update on the HTC page (accidentally) a month and couple of weeks before VZW got around to finally pushing the update out to US. Screw the carriers. I want carrier UNLOCKED phones(IE an European styled system) that get their updates straight from the manufacturer.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:44

61. thelegend6657 (unregistered)

Buy a phone unlocked then use it on AT&T / Tmobile !
Well the Asian and the European system doesn't mean all phones are unlocked , just that even the contract phones are GSM model that will get updated as the unlock variant . Just that you could not switch carriers during the contract period

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:01 5

6. niteiknight (Posts: 60; Member since: 02 Aug 2012)

Basically what it boils down to is, if you care at all about timely updates, you might wanna get comfortable with the idea and steps for rooting and flashing a new ROM. It really isn't hard, and takes maybe an hour. Before you know, you practically have a brand new phone. Android's all about customization. It's nice to have the manufacturers and carriers provide updates, but for power users, you really shouldn't be relying on either of them to help you.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:20 3

11. Femto (Posts: 61; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)

Agreed. Well stated, Ser.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:44

62. thelegend6657 (unregistered)

Buy an unlocked phone ?

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:03 3

7. bobnnate (Posts: 25; Member since: 28 Aug 2011)

I've never understood this type of thinking by Verizon. They test so vigorously, but wht not just push it out and if there's a bug just patch it. Its not like it would hurt Verizon's reputation any at all either way. This is just stupid at his point

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 19:17 1

27. lsutigers (Posts: 821; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

They test so vigorously but it's not like their updates go SO MUCH smoother that other carriers and Verizon is indeed the slowest of the big 4 US carriers in updating phones. They all suck, dont get me wrong, but out of the two carriers mentioned in this article, Sprint is much better at updating phones.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:15 1

8. cj100570 (Posts: 204; Member since: 12 May 2009)

The average consumer couldn't care less! The only people bellyaching are the so called power users. I've had my LTE Galaxy Nexus since launch day. And although I wish the Jelly Bean update would be pushed out sooner rather than later, I know Verizon takes forever to push out updates and I'm biding my time until they do. 99% of those claiming they're leaving Verizon because of slow updates are full of (s)ugar (h)oney (i)ced (t)ea! Verizon service is awesome and moving to another carrier because of slower than expected updates is about as smart as cutting off your arm because it's not long enough to reach that itch on your back that you can't get to. You know the one I'm talking about.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:25

12. Femto (Posts: 61; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)

Sad but true. Verizon is a double-edged biotch; and they've got me.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:15 1

9. MartyK (Posts: 947; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

My question is this--

Google can sell the GSM model phone in the play store, why can't they sell the CDMA model in the store too?.

Can someone answer that?.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 17:54 5

17. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

Because GSM is a more universal technology. You need only a SIM card and you are good to go. CDMA technology however, uses ESN (electronic serial number).

Heres the problem: This serial number is issued by the carrier. You can't just make one up. When you want to activate this device you must give the carrier the ESN and it must match in their system. Note: Boost, Sprint, Metro PCS, Verizon, Virgin Mobile, ALL USE CDMA but you cant take your EVO to Metro PCS, you must flash the firmware to another Metro ESN in order to trick their system into thinking that its a Metro Phone.

Google doesnt need permission to sell GSM phones, but they would need permission to sell a CDMA phones (they need the carrier to issue an ESN). Also 1 GSM phone will work for many carriers while a CDMA phone will only work for 1 carrier.

SIDENOTE: the reason CDMA Nexus are not opensource is because Verizon and Sprint want Google to lock the phones so that developers cant gain access to the ESN (if they were unlocked, someone can easily change the ESN and take their Nexus to a cheaper prepaid carrier). That is why the Verizon and Sprint versions of the Nexus are not developer phones and dont get the updates from Google.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 22:34

49. kanagadeepan (Posts: 981; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

So CDMA Nexus is NOT a pure Nexus device... If ONLY official updates is what people want (and rooting and flashing custom ROM is not their cup of tea), then better they get GSM Nexus device always...

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 23:02

54. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

That is correct. Except the last thing you said: "always". Maybe in the future Carriers can work something out with Google to make the CDMA versions also developer devices so that Google can push the updates OTA directly without Verizon/Sprint telling them they want to test it first.

Here is a link that backs up my statement:

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 11:24

65. Phullofphil (Posts: 805; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)

well that is not all true because the galaxy nexus and well all of verizon LTE phones now go by sim cards and despite what verizon would like youto think you can jut put a sim card from your older lte pone in ther and it will work. I am using my galaxy nexus right now with my gs3 sim card and it works perfactly

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 12:55 1

69. HäckeMáte (Posts: 168; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

So you swapped LTE simcards between 2 phones on your account and it worked. I would be truly surprised if it didnt work. What does that have to do with the topic?

btw you do realize that the SIMcards for LTE are not for GSM.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 16:16 1

10. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

The updates is the biggest most frustrating flaw that Android has... and they don't even have control over it.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 18:35 4

19. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

youve obviosly never owned an iPhone, that takes more than a year to update to next iOS version, and Windows phone (dont even go there) Or perhaps RIM updates are much more timely? Dont think so. Considering Androids competition, its the OS thats most frequently updated hands down.

When I owned my OG Nexus ONE. I saw it update from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread all within a 1 year span.

The CDMA vesions of Nexus devices are NOT official developer devices and therefore will NEVER get the updates upon release.

Anyone that doesnt like it will have to complain to the carrier or to the manufacturer NOT to Google. The only Non-nexus Android device I will consider buying will be the RAZR HD, because Moto will now unlock it, therefore I can manually update, and seeing that Google owns motorola I shouldnt have a problem finding the ROM.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 18:54 1

21. bucky (Posts: 3136; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

I want what you're smoking. Apple announces an update and everyone gets it at the same time...even 3GS owners.

Androids biggest flaw is in fact, the updates. Drives me nuts watching my android phones decrease in value like crazy and not knowing if they will receive the next update. The droid razor supposedly sold more than the iPhone and yet it just now received an update for (what is now) an old version of android.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 19:01 1

24. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

You saw the point I was making. Thanks lol

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 19:14 3

26. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

bucky, the updates Apple releases are to fix the garbage they make (patches). 5.0 to 5.0.1 to 5.1 is really STILL iOS5 that came out in October of last year.

As for the reason most apple devices get it at the same time is because you are only dealing with one company, apple.

The bottleneck here are manufacturers that dont want to support old devices that thyeve discontinued. Theyve moved on to other projects. However Nexus devices have ALWAYS gotten quick and frequent updates OTA, (apple just got on the ota bandwagon)

Verizon and Sprint Nexus devices dont count. They may be Nexus devices but are not oficial developer devices.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 19:57 1

34. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

So your answer is you can only have 1 phone from only 2 major cell phone companies if you want to be satisfied with Android updates?

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