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Cook calls Apple "a force for good in the world"

0. phoneArena posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:09

As we told you on Monday, while talking to analysts during Apple's third quarter conference call, Apple CEO Tim Cook predicted that "it's going to be an iPad Christmas." The comment harkens back to a statement made by the late Steve Jobs when he debuted the original Apple iPad in 2010; Jobs' comment at the time, was that 2010 would be "the year of iPad"...

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posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:11 14

1. NexusPhan (Posts: 632; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)

Stand up for human rights? You mean Google like refusing to censor search results on their Nexus phones which resulted in a ban by China? Or right, Apple doesn't care about human rights violations. They want that massive Chinese market.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:06 2

23. ghaniosman (Posts: 78; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)

So now apple forcefully wants ppl to buy their products ;-) :-P

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:26 31

33. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

A force for good?
By using a proprietary charger they cause massive amounts of waste and pollution.
By switching from 30 pin to lightning they condemned 100s of millions of chargers and cables to landfills
By building devices that are the most difficult to repair they create tons of hazardous waste
By assembling every single device of theirs outside the u.s.a. they hurt our economy
By dodging corporate taxes they're refusing to help the u.s. government manage all the waste and policy issues they create. Instead they'd rather have the taxpayer foot the bill.

A force for good? No way.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:35 3

35. Sauce (unregistered)

Gave me a headache reading the first half of rabble rabble you did.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:54 19

37. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

That made my entire post worthwhile. Thank you.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 11:01 10

40. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Perhaps it was too hard for you to understand it and that's why you feel headache.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:57 4

39. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)

This is not even half as bad as what some OEMs *cough* samsung *cough* do.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 14:25

62. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 709; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)

Please do tell us what they do sir.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 14:26 1

63. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

samsung is guilty of some of these crimes, but they do use industry standard chargers, have easy repairability, and are made largely of recyclable components.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 15:29

66. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

When everyone is causing the same damage, doesn't mean they're all equally liable. There is still a scale from bad to worse. I am not saying who is where, but do know that some of that crap he said is fairly legit. The lightning cable switch was COMPLETELY unnecessary, added almost nothing (reversible?) to the customer value.

The rest is debate.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 15:24 1

65. MrsPotatoHead (banned) (Posts: 48; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)

Please child thats just made up gossip from them haters, Apple dont be doing all that trifling stuff. You make Apple sound like its a haven for lucifer!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:12 16

2. Santi_Santi (unregistered)

good for profit i guess?

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:14 19

3. Kitkat_4.4 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)

LOL RIGHT. Greedy Mo.........r's.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:15 20

4. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Looks like he is searching for fools.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 18:52

74. .TROLL (banned) (Posts: 14; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)

Which there are more than smart people!

They tend to attract average joes, cause there are over half in this world we live in! That includes few in PhoneArena™ which we all Android users no who they are......

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:15

5. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

"Whether it's improving working conditions or the environment, standing up for human rights, helping eliminate AIDS or reinventing education, Apple is making substantial contributions to society. We're also proud to be a force for good in the world beyond our products."

You mean when you get caught?

Also the aids thing is perhaps interesting, but naturally he didn't provide any proof of it.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:23 5

8. NexusPhan (Posts: 632; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)

Apple's heavily involved in Product Red. So yes, they contribute a decent amount to AIDS.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:29 3

10. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)

get real,do you have to try so hard to look stupid? the Red Mac Pro (product RED) was redesigned by Ive for AIDS charity aimed at raising £37000

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:13 5

27. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 904; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

"Product Red has been criticized for not having an impact proportional to the advertising investment, for being much less efficient than direct charitable contribution,[10] and for having a lack of transparency with regards to the amount of money going to charity as a percentage of every purchase. Some critics argue that a retail middleman between donor and charity is unnecessary; donors should just give.[11] Another critique is that Product Red's expansion into traditional fundraising techniques, such as art auctions, undermines its claim to be a different and more sustainable approach to raising money for AIDS.[12] Other critics have pointed out that its emphasis on funding treatment for AIDS sufferers meant that large amounts of the money will ultimately end up with pharmaceutical companies "unwilling to distribute their drugs for free".[13] Many accuse the campaign of profiting by using diseases as a marketing vehicle,[13] for being "cause branding" rather than corporate social responsibility.[14] In the Stanford Social Innovation Review, Mark Rosenman wrote that it was an "example of the corporate world aligning its operations with its central purpose of increasing shareholder profit, except this time it is being cloaked in the patina of philanthropy."[15]
The National Labor Committee for Worker and Human Rights criticised Product Red for its links with Gap,[16] which was historically a target of anti-sweatshop activists, although anti-sweatshop organisation Labour Behind the Label states that Gap has "come further than many"[17] clothing companies to counter exploitation.[18] Gap's Product Red clothes are made in Lesotho, rather than simply for the best price in China (this goes beyond the requirements of Product Red). Labour Behind the Label criticises Product Red for not requiring more measures to protect the rights of the workers who make their products.[17]
Data released in 2007 by Advertising Age claimed retail participants in Product Red including Gap, Motorola and Apple had invested $100 million in advertising and raised only $18 million for The Global Fund.[10] In July 2010, however, Red claimed to have raised over $150 million.[19]"

You mean that project red?

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:50 1

36. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)

wtf did you just grab an article from google? if the red Mac Pro raised funds for AIDS then Apple did a job well done, what 'Project Red' is being criticized for is not affiliated with Apple sheesh. You just found a hammer and you thought everything was a nail :P

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:24 2

49. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 904; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

First of all the Red Mac Pro is only expected to raise $37,000.

Second, I made a typo. Meant Product Red which is what the red mac pro is under the umbrella of. Product Red is a joint venture between many corporations including Apple. I did Google it and read several articles on it. Did you pick up a nail and think it was a hammer?

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 19:01

76. joey_sfb (Posts: 6613; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Reluctant_Human, thanks for the research.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:28

51. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)

Based on the various in-text citations with numbers, I'd say he copied it from Wikipedia.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:38

57. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 904; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

Good eye quakan. I did. It was the best place that summarized what I had read in previous articles.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:17 6

6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:22 2

7. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Funding million dollar house of rainbow colored theme designer is also chairity. Cook is right. They stand for good but he forgot to add few words more -- "at being perfect examples of hypocrites."

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:53 3

19. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Cook has done a lot for charities, especially using Apple's money. Steve Jobs had a different view.

Cook is hardly the hypocrite you try to make out to be.

rusticguy, your anger is clearly misdirected.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 19:01 1

75. .TROLL (banned) (Posts: 14; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)

Ardent1 has never changed! Even in 2010, 2011, Taco50, TheMiz, Gallitoking, and there rest of convoys still support Apple no matter how dirty it's businesses prolongs.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:28 4

9. Kelley71 (Posts: 90; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

What do you expect him to say, "We're the Evil Empire and you know it. Kneel before us and beg for your iPhone 5Same!"? Almost everyone would claim to be pure as the wind-driven snow... This is a non-story.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:30 16

11. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Wow. So much bullsh!t. I can't stand this.

This is like miley cyrus stating that she is just an innocent sweet little girl.

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