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Can the Nexus 7 take down the Kindle Fire?

0. phoneArena posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:09

Amazon achieved what other Android tablet manufacturers couldn't – to sell its devices. And it didn't take a big screen or a quad-core processor to do it. The company simply took a basic Android build, integrated it with its media store...

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posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:21 8

1. mercorp (Posts: 1043; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:28 4

4. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)

By the way, USB host is available on the Nexus :-)

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:29 2

5. Santi_Santi (unregistered)

Remember, cloud storage. we have discussed this issue all the week!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:35 4

10. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

Remember, WiFi only.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 20:07 1

18. shimmyx20 (Posts: 280; Member since: 03 Mar 2009)

Just make sure to have a phone with mobile hotspot capability

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:36

6. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

a USB/micro SD card adapter will definitely be made available. The one for the galaxy tab 10.1 is quite small and handy,and cheap also

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:24 2

2. bohdan4ik13 (Posts: 111; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

Google Play closed in many regions and people cannot buy Google's tablet (even if they want Nexus 7). Amazon works worldwide. And new 7 inch Kindle is coming. So... Nexus 7 is better than Kindle, but this tablet will never be Kindle Fire killer

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 16:51 2

20. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)

you know....the play store isnt the only place to nuy the nexus 7...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 06:16

21. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

And the play store isn't the only place to get apps, music, movies, and books.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 07:37

22. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Though it's the only place to get Google-approved apps. I had a ViewSonic gTablet for a few months, and while it was a great tablet, it didn't have access to the (then) Android Marketplace (now Play Store), which was so frustrating I reluctantly got rid if it. Granted, it was also stuck on FroYo, but not having access to the official Google experience, even though I live in the U.S., was the killer.
Will I get the Nexus7? Maybe, but it would be the 16GB model to have sufficient storage as a media player and app launcher, though I'd rather have a 5" Android media player like the Galaxy Player or Walkman, so that it would be pocketable. I found that having anything that wasn't pocketable made it less appealing to bring with me outside the house because I'd have to either carry it or put it in a laptop bag, which was ridiculous for such a relatively small object. Any appropriately sized bag would have looked like a purse, and if I'm going to put the effort in carrying a device around with me, it may as well be a full-fledged laptop, which has multiple times more storage, full apps with no ads, a physical keyboard, and plenty of ports to hook up peripherals as needed. If computer OEMs started making touchscreen netbooks (or, essentially, the Surface Pro) and priced them the same as current netbooks ($150-500) tablets would lose almost all appeal, especially if the purchaser used the ability of Windows to launch an instance of Android (though only reason to do that is if a particular Android app was so needed that wasn't as accessible or whatever reason it wasn't attainable via Windows, though with the relative scarcity of tablet -specific Android apps, I can't imagine that being necessary. I installed about portion on my desktop for Android and I used it twice, months ago, and never since). I won't even dignify the iPad with an inclusion as it's just a giant iPod touch with an unnecessary camera on the back. Only reason to use a tablet for camera work is if the photographer has vision problems so a small screen isn't worthwhile (even people with not-great vision want to take photos and should have the ability to) and even then they have a tripod to keep the silly thing stable.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 07:44

23. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

Google doesn't approve the apps. As long as the seller pays $25 and violates no terms (found out after problem reported which comes after it is already in the store), the app is allowed and Google doesn't really care.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 08:15

24. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Not quite. Google also proactively checks for malware, which not all app stores do. When I had the gTablet I used GetJar, Amazon, and a few other app stores for what I wanted, or I'd download the API and manually install it, if I could, but even those apps weren't consistently updated, and every download I performed I felt nervous that I could be downloading something possibly malicious, so I had to make sure none of my personal info was ever saved to the tablet, making daily activities like email or Facebook time consuming and frustrating. Just my personal experience, YMMV.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 08:23

26. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

They do check for malware, but Google does not approve them. Apple approves IOS apps, Google does not approve Android apps.
You will have better luck from the play store but it is not the only place to get good apps.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:28

3. Santi_Santi (unregistered)

I think Nexus 7, by hardware specs, will take the lead in no time. also the closed fire ecosystem (android, but only with amazon apps) will be a disadvantage considering that the Nexus 7 will be pure-free android experience. Even with a larger screen there is a possibility that the Fire 10" will be the same ol' fire with lower hardware specs and, to keep price, even without a rear camera, or quad core like the Nexus.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:38 2

7. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)

It's kinda unfair comparing a 2011 tablet with the new Nexus tablet with all it's awesome hardware, we should wait to see Amazon's response to Google's offering.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:18 2

8. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

I think it has absolutely no chance. You keep forgetting, in this crowd, I fully agree that the Nexus would and should outsell the Kindle Fire. In reality, people go for what they know. The Amazon Kindle Fire will own the budget tablet market for a while, solely due to how well it has been recognized. And if Apple makes their budget tablet, that one will soar to the top. It may not be what you want to hear, but in all likelihood know you know it's the terrible truth.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:19 2

9. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)

duhhh.... yes

more apps in app store!
quadcore v dual core
higher res screen
stock jb(no amazon crap)

almost imediate updates
able to sideload
able to hack and mod(best part)

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 08:19

25. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

In fairness, you can hack and mod any Android-based tablets. Heck, my brother and I rooted the kids tablet I got my nephews for Christmas and got it to run Honeycomb. It's not a smooth setup because of hardware limitations, but it runs more than it was sold as.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:00 1

11. Xquisite (Posts: 87; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)

To me, this is like asking if the Galaxy S3 can take down the iPhone.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 11:06 1

12. threed61 (Posts: 246; Member since: 27 May 2011)

The Nexus looks to be very nice! Google isn't yet close when it comes to offering media, but they do tend to catch up quickly. Amazon has done one thing with apps that I wish would catch on with other appstores, they've weeded out the garbage. I'll take their 'limited' selection over having to wade through tons of crap produced by competing for raw number bragging rights anytime.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:15

13. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)

The kindle is garbage now ...these kai tablets will give every other tablet a run for its cash ( y u no get my indie magazine- i put up a comparisson tablehttp://www.mediafire.com/?bi4ahhmrnsidwj7

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:00 1

14. angelxdope (Posts: 1; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)

Guys keep in mind that the Kindle fire came out in the holiday season and boy did it sell it was one of the most popular so for Google to take over that market it will take a while. But in my personal opinion i like the Nexus 7 a lot more because it pure android. What i mean by that is that the Kindle just didn't have that customization or freedom that we all love about Android. But seeing devices this cheap brings joy to all of us. :-)

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:19

15. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1121; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)

The kindle Fire is for mainstream America, the nexus 7 are for geeks like me lol. Most people look at the Kindle Fire and want a simple tablet that they use to read books, play games, etc. We tech guys use the Nexus7 for almost everything but drive a car themselves lol

This can one of the first Android tablets that can beat the iPad............eventually!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 14:12 2

16. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

This tablet wasn't made to go up against the iPad.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:19 1

17. jvrsavage (Posts: 5; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)

Amazon will just sell the fire for $179.99 to stay on top or in this case at the bottom of the price range. This will keep them competitive and keep the sales coming until the succesor comes out.

Thats what I would do if I was amazon

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 05:16 1

19. LiudvikasLTU (Posts: 15; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)

I didn't read the article. I've already knew the answer.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 15:37

27. stevenshearing (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

Oh yes just look u the benchmarks and you see that googles new tablet comes near top next to the prime which is great value for money.

This will be my first tablet, finally one which comes with a fair price tag, now other companys will stuggle to sell at high prices. This is what we needed a company to drop the prices and beat the bunch.

Sure the ipad still comes out head and tails but do you really need that extra speed at the cost of such a item.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:42

28. andyboi_ph (Posts: 101; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)

im sure amazon knows that if they don't make an awesome hardware/software specs on the next iteration of kindle fire, google's nexus 7 tablet will take the lead (in terms of sales). Lets see what's instore for the new kindle fire soon.

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